VENT People who still think Circ is best, no matter what.

[libranbutterfly]

I work at a daycare. My classroom is 8-15 month olds. One little boy just had to have his third surgery to fix his circumcision. He came back in after a week off at home, and he had stitches all around the head of his penis. It looked so painful (and it was very difficult to change him) He was very upset. My coworkers just keep saying "Well at least they are getting it taken care of now" They just keep standing by the circ is better thing.

We have one little boy in our room that is not circ'd. They are constantly talking about how it looks weird and that it wont retract (no matter how many times I tell them NOT to retract him, they keep doing it because they feel it is required. I think I will mention it to mom soon) I am already dreading if I have a boy sending him there. But I will MAKE SURE no one does that to my baby.

It just makes me so made that all of these people are just so sure that circ is best. I am really not feeling like I belong in my workplace at all anymore.

[mntnmom]

Tell that poor little boy's mom! The people you're working with are clearly ignorant (on this issue at least), and I'm so sorry you have to deal with this!! But you are in a position to protect a little guy from a potentially *huge* medical issue! Focus on the good you can do in small ways. It helps with the frustration.

[Greg B]

Please tell then that What they are doing is wrong. It is incorrect treatment and they can potenbtially be sued. Suggest continuing education is in order. Print this out and give them to them:

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...kinleaflet.pdf

This is very important, they are damaging his penis with potentially life long consequences.

Regards

[briome]

agreed, drives me crazy too.......A family member argued that it wasn't a big deal because you didn't have to be in the room when they do it! What a heartless thing to say and do!

[libranbutterfly]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Please tell then that What they are doing is wrong. It is incorrect treatment and they can potenbtially be sued. Suggest continuing education is in order. Print this out and give them to them:

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...kinleaflet.pdf

This is very important, they are damaging his penis with potentially life long consequences.

Regards

I remind them every time they change him, and to my knowledge they have not even tried it for over a month. They still mention how "unhealthy" it must be not to retract it EVERY time. It just aggravates me to no end how they talk about it like there is something wrong with his uncirc'd penis. That is the way it was meant to look.

I will print that out for them though, and will try to bring it up with mom. Maybe I should mention it in the office and let them talk to mom. I dont know if they would want me "telling" on other employees.

[libranbutterfly]

Originally Posted by briome

agreed, drives me crazy too.......A family member argued that it wasn't a big deal because you didn't have to be in the room when they do it! What a heartless thing to say and do!

I am stil battling DH about our future son. The problem is, he doesn't want to beleive me that it is not about personal sexual preference (I had a past BF that we are still friends with that was uncirc'd) but about the un needed cosmetic surgery, that often does more damage than good.

[Storm Bride]

Originally Posted by libranbutterfly

I am stil battling DH about our future son. The problem is, he doesn't want to beleive me that it is not about personal sexual preference (I had a past BF that we are still friends with that was uncirc'd) but about the un needed cosmetic surgery, that often does more damage than good.

Why on earth would your own sexual preference be the deciding factor in your decision about your son's penis?

[lawmama1984]

Originally Posted by Storm Bride

Why on earth would your own sexual preference be the deciding factor in your decision about your son's penis?

Lisa,

This is exactly my line of thinking when I see this in pro-circ arguments. I can't tell you how often I've read a mom casually or laughingly say they are grossed out/scared of/turned off by etc intact men, and they "know their son (or their son's future sexual partners) will thank them.". That last part REALLY makes me sick to my stomach.

[Carlyle]

Originally Posted by libranbutterfly

I remind them every time they change him, and to my knowledge they have not even tried it for over a month. They still mention how "unhealthy" it must be not to retract it EVERY time. It just aggravates me to no end how they talk about it like there is something wrong with his uncirc'd penis. That is the way it was meant to look.

I will print that out for them though, and will try to bring it up with mom. Maybe I should mention it in the office and let them talk to mom. I dont know if they would want me "telling" on other employees.

This isn't about telling on the other employees/their rights, this is about THE MOM NEEDS TO KNOW! They are doing something medically DANGEROUS to the child, and the mom needs to be informed. By all means, tell the office that you plan to share the info with the mom, but please do tell the mom.

[glongley]

What is your position at the day care? Are you in charge? IF so, you need to educate these workers. Or do you work as an aide or something? If so, you need to talk to whoever is in charge and explain to them the problem, and the correct care of the intact penis, and ask them to train their workers to give correct care and be more respectful of the normal penis. You can provide them the NOCIRC care handout #4 and #7, and ask that all workers there be required to read them and take a competency test on the info. www.nocirc.org

You are the voice for these boys here, and are in a position to educate others. You don't have to take an emotional stance, just a fact based stance about normal penile development and care.

Gillian

[libranbutterfly]

Originally Posted by glongley

What is your position at the day care? Are you in charge? IF so, you need to educate these workers. Or do you work as an aide or something? If so, you need to talk to whoever is in charge and explain to them the problem, and the correct care of the intact penis, and ask them to train their workers to give correct care and be more respectful of the normal penis. You can provide them the NOCIRC care handout #4 and #7, and ask that all workers there be required to read them and take a competency test on the info. www.nocirc.org

You are the voice for these boys here, and are in a position to educate others. You don't have to take an emotional stance, just a fact based stance about normal penile development and care.

Gillian

I work in my classroom with two other teachers. They each have been working at the center for over 10 years. I started last year.

I will tell the office that proper care of an intact penis seems to be a confusing topic in the downstairs classrooms, and give them the handouts. I will mention to them that something should be mentioned to the one boys mother about possible damage due to people retracting, and see how they want to handle it. I will continue to voice the facts in my classroom, and if it comes down to it, I will go behind the directors back and talk to his parents directly. I am surprised mom as not mentioned proper care to anyone, if I had my son were in the center I would make sure that everyone who would be changing his diaper would know how to care for an uncirc'd penis. I guess she just assumed people knew what to do, but obviously that is not the case.

[ursaminor]

Tell the Mama!! If my poor little guy was being retracted against my knowledge I would want somebody to speak up and tell me! That is so horrible that they keep doing it to him! Please please tell the mama

[lunarlady]

I shudder to think about that being my child that was being retracted. Please tell the director of your center at once, and let them know that if it doesn't stop right away, you will consider it your obligation to tell the parent. When I read stuff like that, I wonder. Think about if you found out that they were sticking fingers in an infant girl's vagina because they thought it was the right thing to do. Wouldn't you throw a fit? I hope so!

In all honesty, you might want to tell the parent anyway, even though I can see why you are worried about your job and the reaction of the other teachers. But I think you should tell the teachers that you intend to let the parents know. You could make it sort of non confrentational by saying something like "I've always learned you should never retract an infant boy's foreskin. But you seem to have learned otherwise. How about we ask the parents so that they can let us know what they prefer?" Maybe you could put it in a little note and tuck it into one of the go home items. That way you are not drawing a lot of attention directly to yourself. Good luck. I hope you stand up for that little boy soon!