Child vaccine rates hinge on educating parents

[Marnica]

http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...5/prsb0315.htm

Infuriating article....Yes if we are just educated better we would consent to all vaccines....

When we break out that sheet that they're taking responsibility, some [parents] change their mind on the spot" and get the vaccine for their children.

yet they sign nothing accepting any kind of responsibility if an adverse event occurs, nor does the company that makes them....hypocritical at best.

Gary Freed, MD, MPH, author of the Pediatrics study, encouraged physicians to explain to parents why the autism link is scientifically unfounded and why immunizations are essential to their children's health. He said doctors should be prepared to provide information from credible scientific sources.

bolding mine

Bolded part is a joke IMO. Most doctors I have encountered are woefully inept in this department and I find I know a lot more than they do. The studies taht they usually point, I can poke holes in, then they are left looking at me with their mouths open.

This was interesting as well
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...gprsb0315a.pdf

[Fyrestorm]

Yeah...the bad mommy form is going to be more important to me than the 8+ years of research I've done!

[Turquesa]

In New York and New Jersey, where mumps has been spreading since June 2009, about 25% of those affected had not received the recommended two doses of MMR vaccine, said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As of Jan. 29, the CDC said 1,521 mumps cases had been reported in that East Coast outbreak.

That's one heck of a spin, guys! That sounds so much better than telling us the truth: More than 3/4 of those New Jersey mumps cases were in vaccinated individuals.

[miriam]

[Sileree]

For most pediatricians and public health officials, "education" = propaganda and a denial of risks, not actually addressing the real problems parents have with so-called vaccination "science".

[isign]

In New York and New Jersey, where mumps has been spreading since June 2009, about 25% of those affected had not received the recommended two doses of MMR vaccine,

So 75% were vaccinated with the 2 doses and they still got sick? Hmm doesn't sound so effective to me.

[Turquesa]

Originally Posted by isign

So 75% were vaccinated with the 2 doses and they still got sick? Hmm doesn't sound so effective to me.

77% to be precise. And I hear ya.

Here's the other part of the article that grabbed my attention:

"How do you compete with Jenny McCarthy [an actress whose child has been diagnosed with autism] and ... all the flash of Hollywood out there saying things that just aren't true?" said pediatrician Pia Fenimore, MD, of Lancaster, Pa.

What is it with medical elitists believing that we of the Masses make our health care decisions based on what celebrities do?

As a related example, ACOG was claiming that women were wanting home births because Ricki Lake did it, a contention that was later proven wrong.

For one thing, I had never HEARD of Jenny McCarthy until she became an autism activist. And for another, my vaccine skepticism (and that of numerous other parents).....is Not. About. Autism. People.

[JMJ]

How did "education" become convincing people that you're right rather than giving people information. One more reason to homeschool. What else do they want to "educate" my kids about? Home birth? When to have sex? How many children to have? Morality? How to treat people who are different? I know I was far too "educated" in school about the necessity and normalacy of unnecessary medical treatments.

[zachattack]

i replied with this

To the Editor
Regarding: Are you serious?

I think you are just silly. Most parents who chose not to blindly follow this insane vaccine schedule are highly educated. The bottom line for me is that those who make the decisions on approving vaccines have financial ties to the vaccine companies. I do not need to explain each reason why I think the way I do but explain why a child on their first day of life needs the hep-b shot-INSANE. Also why did the # of vaccines skyrocket after the 1986 law that prevented pharma companies from being sued?
Look into how the chicken pox vaccine went from being given to just sickly kids to all children. I am not some tree hugging hippie but the vaccine schedule has damaged an entire generation.



I doubt it matter that I sent it but....oh well

[Arduinna]

In New York and New Jersey, where mumps has been spreading since June 2009, about 25% of those affected had not received the recommended two doses of MMR vaccine, said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As of Jan. 29, the CDC said 1,521 mumps cases had been reported in that East Coast outbreak

wow only about 25% of those that got sick had not recieved 2 vaxes. So the over whelming majority did and still got sick. Nice.

The critical question for physicians is when do unvaccinated children begin posing a risk to other patients, particularly in waiting rooms,

But your vaxes work right? So they aren't at risk.

They need to get their stories straight.

[Juvysen]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

But your vaxes work right? So they aren't at risk.

They need to get their stories straight.

Gotta love the doublespeak.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by zachattack

To the Editor
Regarding: Are you serious?

I think you are just silly. Most parents who chose not to blindly follow this insane vaccine schedule are highly educated. The bottom line for me is that those who make the decisions on approving vaccines have financial ties to the vaccine companies. I do not need to explain each reason why I think the way I do but explain why a child on their first day of life needs the hep-b shot-INSANE. Also why did the # of vaccines skyrocket after the 1986 law that prevented pharma companies from being sued?
Look into how the chicken pox vaccine went from being given to just sickly kids to all children. I am not some tree hugging hippie but the vaccine schedule has damaged an entire generation.



I doubt it matter that I sent it but....oh well

Good for you for writing the editor....when I have time I may also. It's only when people speak out that things may one day change.

[bbrandonsmom]

I didn't read the article, but wasn't there an article just last year stating that those who do not vaccinate, were more educated and informed, than those who did vaccinate?

[Deborah]

Yes, there is more than one study looking at parents who don't vaccinate or selectively vaccinate, and I recall that the these parents are usually fairly well-educated.

This article http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/t...continues.html

sums up the ongoing controversy pretty well, IMO.

We constantly hear that the vaccine-autism link has been disproven, and that there is scientific consensus on this, yet Dr. Bernadine Healy (former head of the NIH) says that basic science has not been done due to fear of what might be found out (see HERE and HERE Rather than studying these children whose parents say that their autism began after a round of vaccines, the government is simply ignoring them and summarily denying their claims. The CDC should be studying how many babies are adversely affected by vaccines, how & why these injuries occur, and how to treat these vaccine injuries.

That is my frustration, too. I'm still waiting for a study that looks directly at the children who may have been damaged by vaccines.

[tanyalynn]

Deborah, it was your link to AoA that led me to one of his slightly older posts...

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/t...n-7-years.html

He found a 2001-2002 National Immunization Survey. In that survey, only 7% of parents had safety concerns about vaccines. 93% said vaccines were "completely safe" -- which in itself is interesting, since hopefully most people know any medical procedure and any drug have at least some risk?

But the new survey that's getting all the press says 25% of parents believe vaccines can cause autism in otherwise healthy kids, and 56% of parents have safety concerns about vaccines.

That's a significant downhill slide.

[Deborah]

Very significant. But the CDC and AAP continue to see the parents as the problem, not vaccine policy.

If people aren't listening to you, perhaps you aren't actually answering their questions.

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

Deborah, it was your link to AoA that led me to one of his slightly older posts...

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/t...n-7-years.html

He found a 2001-2002 National Immunization Survey. In that survey, only 7% of parents had safety concerns about vaccines. 93% said vaccines were "completely safe" -- which in itself is interesting, since hopefully most people know any medical procedure and any drug have at least some risk?

But the new survey that's getting all the press says 25% of parents believe vaccines can cause autism in otherwise healthy kids, and 56% of parents have safety concerns about vaccines.

That's a significant downhill slide.

[tanyalynn]

Which is making CDC and AAP less relevant and less authoritative. And that's a real problem for them, there's usually a time lag with stuff like this. A brand's quality goes down, and it takes a while for that to be commonly known, but then everybody _does_ know and even after they re-vamp their product line and improve their quality, people have been burned and have moved on to other products (or in CDC's case, information sources). So unless a miracle happens right now, and CDC fesses up to what they do know and what they don't, they're just at the beginning of a serious downward credibility cycle.

[PenelopeJune]

I hope they do educate parents! (Truly educate, I mean.) I stopped vaxxing after I educated myself. I'd love true education to happen.