Please diagnose me. Please help me. It happened again. - Page 2

[SquishyKitty]

I would recommend you go and see a doc since it's happened again.

It could still be a virus, it could be gall bladder, it could be any number of things. I hate to say it, but when it comes to unknowns, the internet doesn't do much for me except make things worse. Everybody will chime in with their personal experiences, but until you see a doc there's really no telling.

I really hope you feel better, and you can get some resolution.

[karika]

I would not recommend an MD, but a person that heals with natural, herbal remedies and understands what our bodies need as far as adding in supplements if necessary. Are you a nursing mother? The first thing I thought of (I am an intuitive, but this is only my gut feeling I am not a health professional) is adrenal problems. I had them with dd1. Felt like i was on cocaine and had many of the sensations you described, but I not only had frequent BMs, I did have attacks of diarrhea too. I went to an herbal person and she also told me I had a yeast imbalance. I did not listen then about the yeast, but did modify my diet as she said I should to get better from my adrenal fatigue (with me it was eating foods I was sensitive to, I cut them out of my diet for a few years and it worked great). I have now (5 yrs later) tackled my yeast problem. I went GFCFSFCF and now take probiotics, limit sugar (I used to drink caffeine free soda back then, and the HFCS was not good, and now it is worse since it is all GMO). My second thought was that you are lacking some necessary vitamin or mineral. I am not sure which. The first thing that popped into my head was magnesium and manganese (the muscle cramping... for some reason I am thinking calcium too, but I don't even take calcium... ok gotta look stuff up)... but like I said this is just intuitive, not qualified in any way. But I do think you should research adrenal issues and visit a naturopath that can advise you which supplements to take. I will look for a site that discusses this and check back in soon.

[jazzharmony]

Are you dizzy at all during these episodes? Could it be vertigo?

[karika]

adrenal stuff
http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrena...e.asp?page=1#2
http://www.womentowomen.com/adrenalf.../symptoms.aspx

ok baby woke up... look at muscle spasm and magnesium too... GL

[rayo de sol]

Wow, thanks so much for all the replies, everybody! It's helpful to get other people's perspectives because when I'm thinking about it on my own, I just get more and more worried.

It's been happening to a smaller degree every night now. So, this is my new nightly "normal"--waking up shaking and having the urge to go #2. I also seem to have to go #1 more than usual. I'm exhausted because I can't get any sleep what with all the shaking and running to the bathroom.

Responding in a general way to some of what people have said:

I do think I have adrenal fatigue, so maybe that's what's causing this.

I've been gluten-free for 2 months now.

I do have mercury issues--I think--at least, I have lots of mercury dental fillings.

Thank you, Wu Wei, for listing all the possible things that could affect my mercury problem. I have been eating way more coconut oil the last couple of months (trying to cut down on dairy). I've also eaten some homemade fish broth and seaweed, which are probably both high in iodine--but only about once every 2 weeks. I have been eating very small quantities of fermented vegetables occasionally, so I guess that's probiotics.

Could all this be from the coconut oil? Is coconut oil basically dangerous if one has amalgams? Lately I've only been eating perhaps about 1 tsp a day of coconut oil, but a few weeks ago, I was eating more like a couple of tablespoons per day.

Are the vitamin C, selenium, and magnesium stuff I should avoid or stuff I should seek out to help with a possible mercury stir-up? I've been taking magnesium occasionally to help with insomnia. I plan to eat some lentils tomorrow.

That's interesting about diverticulitis and IBS. I'll have to look those up and see if I have any of the other symptoms.

I know I should go to a doctor, but I don't have health insurance, and I actually don't even have a regular doctor.

I'm still wondering if ibuprofen could have a delayed side effect like this. I took my last dose 3 days ago (took it for 4 days in a row). But last time I got this weird shaking thing, it had been a whole week since I had had ibuprofen.

Thanks, everybody!

[WuWei]

Messed up and edited above, instead of posting here. So, here is the new post.

Vit C, selenium, magnesium help to bind and excrete mercury. Epsom salt baths help too. Molybdenum in beans and legumes are benefical for safe heavy metal detox.

These are beneficial to help you to feel better. Salt water flushes help too. Like a teaspoon of sea salt in water, drink down and chase with 16 ounces of water (early in the day, so you're not peeing all night).

In bed by 10pm, sunlight and walk for at least 15 minutes by 10am (earlier preferable).

Consider Liver, it is magical for feeling better.
http://editor.nourishedmagazine.com....actor-of-liver



Omega 3 fatty acids help too. Small amounts of fermented veggies is fine. I'd cut back on the coconut oil.

Pat

[Mamacitac]

Originally Posted by Vancouver Mommy

Do you think it could have been a panic attack? I have had a similar experience to the one you describe.

YUP! I've just recently begun having panic attacks. I had my first a couple of months ago, and it felt exactly like this! It was so scary.


OP, It could also be a problem with the thyroid too! thyroid issues can cause people to have problems with keeping warm..so can blood pressure issues. Really it can be anything so you're safe bet is going to your dr! Good luck..
Hopefully it's just something as "simple" (ha!) as a panic attack..I know they're not simple incidents (hence my "ha") but at least you can't die from them...kwim?

s:

[SquishyKitty]

I was thinking about this more (yes I really need a life) and I was wondering if it might have something to do with your blood sugar. You mentioned the excessive peeing which makes me wonder if you've got something going on with your kidneys, too.

[Boobs]

I understand that it's difficult to go to the dr when you don't have insurance, and I'm not a huge fan of dr's in general, but the symptoms you're describing could be something very serious. I wouldn't play around with this. You need to get checked out.

[rayo de sol]

Thanks again, everybody.

It keeps happening every night. 1am seems to be when it starts. And then I can't sleep because of the constant urge to go to the bathroom. The shaking hasn't been as bad as it was the other night. Now it seems to be mostly intestinal. But I don't have any stomach pain or any other symptoms. The only symptoms are the urge to go and the shaking.

I have some symptoms during the day. I have a higher frequency of #2 than usual, and a constant urge to go #2. I feel very low energy yet jittery and low blood sugary.

I guess I have to find a doctor and see how much they charge someone without insurance. It'll probably be necessary to do lab work, so I wonder how much that is.

I've eaten liver today and yesterday, hoping for it to help.

[Cascadian]

Haven't read the above posts but your post made me think 'diabetes' or hypoglycemia...a blood sugar thing anyway.

Def check it out. And I want to counter what someone else said about first going to an herbal doc - please go and have allopathic machines measure things, THEN go to an alternative health specialist. It's been my experience that as well meaning as most are, they don't have the gear to do the diagnostic stuff at the level you might need.

[claddaghmom]

Originally Posted by rayo de sol

Thanks again, everybody.

It keeps happening every night. 1am seems to be when it starts. And then I can't sleep because of the constant urge to go to the bathroom. The shaking hasn't been as bad as it was the other night. Now it seems to be mostly intestinal. But I don't have any stomach pain or any other symptoms. The only symptoms are the urge to go and the shaking.

I have some symptoms during the day. I have a higher frequency of #2 than usual, and a constant urge to go #2. I feel very low energy yet jittery and low blood sugary.

I guess I have to find a doctor and see how much they charge someone without insurance. It'll probably be necessary to do lab work, so I wonder how much that is.

I've eaten liver today and yesterday, hoping for it to help.

nak
I had that...right on for panic attacks but I never was quite satisfied with the answer. The only other thing I could connect it to is toxicity. It went away on its own, which was also a strike against panic attack diagnosis.

But it did cause panic oh yes. I thought I was dying and couldn't leave the bathroom. The body is responding as if it was attacked/poisoned.

[samy23]

A friend of mine has IBS, she goes through stages which sound similar to yours. She calls them "IBS attacks", for her they can happen anytime of the day or night, sometimes every day for a while, other times once then not at all for several weeks.

The symptoms aren't all the same as yours though but I've read everyone suffers with IBS differently. My friend gets extremely severe cramps to pass bowel movements (she described it as bad as labor pains and her labor was awful!), she has to sit on the toilet for sometimes upto 30-45 minutes which having diarhea and those awful cramps/spasms. She's in so much pain with it she told me she has to put her hand over her mouth to stop from screaming out, or bites on a towel I feel so bad when it happens for her.

She thinks that because of the severe pain of it spasming like that, her body sort of goes into shock and she starts sweating, trembling/shaking which can last a while afterwards too. Then she still has some remaining pains and soreness, usually she has to go lay down afterwards to recover.

But like I said, apparantly with IBS everyone gets it in different ways, I haven't heard of many people having such bad pain or spasms as my friend. So you could still have that.

Diverticulitis as someone already mentioned, and Crohn's disease are similar illnesses too you could look into.

I hope you get better soon and really hope it isn't any digestive problem.

[newmum35]

If you think this is low blood sugar you can have your sugar tested by buying an over the counter diabetes monitor thing that pricks your finger and tests it instantly. THen you'd know whether to rule this out or not. It was expensive ($50 or more) but with the one I got it had a coupon on it where they actually refunded you the entire amount in the mail a month or so later. So it end up being free ...But I knew there was a catch - the paper sticks you insert to read the sugar end up costing a dollar each! That's how they get you. When I ran out of sticks I bought a new pack and it was like $20 for just 20 sticks... So obviously I don't use it unless there's a good reason to But if you can find a similar one in your area it would be worth it and I think it comes with some sticks to get your started. So might want to check local stores in your area to see if this is an option and if so you can start checking your blood sugar immediately. Look in the pharmacy section near the blood pressure kits, etc.

[samy23]

Any updates rayo de sol?

[Peacemamalove]

Originally Posted by Vancouver Mommy

Do you think it could have been a panic attack? I have had a similar experience to the one you describe.

This happens to me to I have finally realized that this is what it is and that it doesn't even need to be triggered by anything and can just happen. I have to do deep breathing like during labor for it to pass . If it happens again try breathing slowly in and out like riding through a contraction and see if it helps.

Panic attacks can be very scary and it can almost feel like a heart attack if it gets really out of control.

[Ravenlunatic]

It sounds to me like you have a glandular issue... some kind of endoctrine system disfunction (thyroid, adrenals, pancreas) or some kind of major imbalance in your blood (nutrient deficiancy).

I am in the same boat with insurance and so can empathize. However, I believe this is SERIOUS. You should not wait any longer. Go to the health clinic that is open to folks with low income, and get blood work like tomorrow.

I don't want to be alarmist but I really, really don't think you should wait at all.

I would also push the clinic with a lot of quesitons and do not settle for a quick diagnosis just to get you out of the office. If something is found and advice given make sure you have a followup visit scheduled.

[Ravenlunatic]

Originally Posted by Mamacitac

Good luck..
Hopefully it's just something as "simple" (ha!) as a panic attack..I know they're not simple incidents (hence my "ha") but at least you can't die from them...kwim?

s:

This is in very poor taste.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by spring978

Everything but the pooping sounds like a blood sugar issue. Did you overload on sugar before bed, lots of carbs or skip a meal?

Originally Posted by karika

adrenal stuff
http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrena...e.asp?page=1#2
http://www.womentowomen.com/adrenalf.../symptoms.aspx

ok baby woke up... look at muscle spasm and magnesium too... GL

Originally Posted by Cascadian

Haven't read the above posts but your post made me think 'diabetes' or hypoglycemia...a blood sugar thing anyway.

Hypoglycemia/Low blood sugar in the middle of the night causes the adrenals to pump out hormones to rise blood sugar to protect the brain. This causes the digestive symptoms b/c adrenaline causes nausea, insomnia and the bowels to be stimulated. Low blood sugar and/or adrenaline could have been the causes of the shakiness.

I would guess insulin resistance. Try for a low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. Have you seen the Hibernation thread in TF Forum re: honey right before bed? Honey restocks the liver and prevents blood sugar from plummeting during the night.

My current research is in adrenal issues, but I haven't read The Adrenal Fatigue thread here yet.... is there discussion there of this phemonenon? (I thought I could ignore at least one monster thread here b/c wouldn't apply to me and mine... NOT... )