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our sickest winter, please help us get and stay well

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
our family keeps getting every sickness going around and it's been going on for several months now.
we've had the cough, the stomach bug several times and now we're back to another cough and cold. it's at the point where mu husband and i have missed or come home from work and we NEVER do that. we can't afford to not work and we don't have jobs that offer sick days.
i'm concerned that the one year old keeps getting everything that the 3 year old brings home. i'm looking for something to enhance immunity so that we can bring this to an end...
so-kudzu? vitamin d? astragalus? nettles? we live in sunny colorado so i haven't been supplementing with d but it was a fairly dreary winter. any thoughts would be appreciated!
post #2 of 13
Definitely vitamin D! Great for all-around immunity.

Sambucol (or similar elderberry preparation) if they can tolerate berry is great for fighting and preventing viral infections. Not sure what the minimum age is on that, though.
post #3 of 13
I agree with Vitamin D as well. We've been supplementing with D, C, and E, and occasionally echinacea, although I hear that doesn't always work in kids. We've also been scrupulous about hand washing. Everyone does it as soon as they get in the house. "Front, back, and in between."
post #4 of 13
I also like apple cider vinegar (acv). Put some acv with water in a pot, bring it to a boil, and breathe the steam. Do this several times a day. Also, drinking a small amount in water each day helps too. These are things that I have tried and they actually work for me and the family.

You can take acv and raw honey, and mix it in juice for the kids. That's how I get hubby and my son to take it.
post #5 of 13

We're in the same situation, so I absolutely understand your frustration. I am beyond sick of it(no pun intended).

What I am doing now as if our lives depended on it-
~Vit. D3-Me-10,000 IUs, dc (8 & 13)-5,000 and 8,000 IUs
~Vit C-Me-2,000mg 3/day, dc 1,000 3/day
~Probiotics for all
~Fermented Cod Liver Oil-Me-1/2 tsp, dc 1/4 tsp
~Extra sleep
~No dairy, no sugar

Hang in there!!
post #6 of 13
We're in the same situation (luckily no stomach bugs). My husband is home sick today. In the 20+ years I've known him I think he has stayed home five times - three of them this year.

A pp suggested vit D and elderberry syrup. My children take both regularly and my son takes CLO. I really think it helps. My children have been sick much less often and less severely than my husband and myself. For some reason my husband and I are not good about taking supplements. We also get too little sleep.

As a pp mentioned, I agree that sugar lowers our immune system and am trying to eliminate/reduce sugar.

I hope you feel better soon.
post #7 of 13
We've (my dh and I) have take elderberry all winter long and I upped our VIT D. We've been amazingly healthy (knock on wood) this entire winter except for a very minor scratchy throat that went away in a day for both of us.
I'm so happy with the elderberry.
post #8 of 13
I agree with everything said so far with one HUGE CAVEAT!!!! :

This time last year we were doing all of that and them some but were getting so many colds!!! I knew it wasn't our immune systems because we only got colds and they never turned into worse tings (infections, whatnot)--they were self-limiting. We were in great health other than those colds.

Then I read "Perfect Health for Kids" and "The 3 Season Diet" (basically Ayurvedic rules for health adapted somewhat for westerners) by John Douillard. We changed our diets to be truly seasonal (esp. regarding dairy) and use a small selection of Ayurvedic herbs (esp. Turmeric) and in the last 4 months we had 1 mild cold and a few (each single) days of feeling "iffy" (i.e. thought we were getting sick but never did). GET THE BOOKS AND READ FAST/SKIP TO THE SPRING SHOPPING LIST, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TIME TO SET YOUR SYSTEMS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR (with spring cleansing foods).

I ALWAYS get a whopper of a cold during the season change to spring (would be this last week with 60+ degrees and tons of rain). I woke up with all signs of a cold Sunday, but by waking up Monday it was totally gone--100%.

I am THRILLED with the success we've had with living Ayurvedically with the seasons! I highly recommend you explore this path.

Good luck, I know how frustrating this can be!!
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
holiztic thank you for that and i'll be checking that out for sure.

it's so frustrating because we're usually so healthy and i swear our 3 year old didn't even have a cold until she was 2 ish! now it just seems that we get everything that comes along. it doesn't help that we're around kids constantly and the one daya week i work i'm in a restaurant which is like a germ breeding ground. i hate that we're "that" family whose always sick!

i've got some sambucol, going to get it back out and get serious about giving it regularly. also i'm going to get some d for sure per everyone's advice and nettles for overall nourishment.

THANK YOU for the responses so far and good to know we're not the only ones
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Holiztic View Post
READ FAST/SKIP TO THE SPRING SHOPPING LIST, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TIME TO SET YOUR SYSTEMS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR (with spring cleansing foods).
Can you give us an idea? I'd like to get the book but I can't get it soon enough because right now the weather here is changing to Spring right now.



Also, no one else mentioned zinc. My kids only got colds this winter when we ran out of zinc and didn't get more right away. I give them zinc every day now-- the Rhino Zinc chewables. I take zinc every day, too.

ETA: I ordered those books and one of the DVDs, too! Can't wait!
post #11 of 13
Spring Diet in a nutshell (the book tells more!):

Spring superfoods (to clean out the heaviness, wetness and mucous of a winter diet AND to counteract the wetness and heaviness of the spring season):

Sprouts of all kinds
Bitter green salads (spring mix)
grapefruits
bitter and astringent veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cabbage, brussels sprouts, potatoes, etc.
dandelion greens and root (in salad, soup, tea) are huge spring antidotes!

In general: bitter and astringent veggies and lighter fruits like apple and pear, as well as berries. Reduce/eliminate heavier fruits like bananas and avocados.

For animal foods the best are chicken (prepare lightly, not fried) and turkey as well as fish (ideally freshwater--haven't figured that one out yet!) Lamb okay in moderation. Eggs good in moderation especially soft-boiled and poached (so not fried or scrambled).

No dairy except ghee and yogurt, ideally the yogurt is in the middle of the day (when digestion is strongest, so less likely to cause mucous reaction) and not with other foods (same reason). (Dairy=mucous=bad for already wet spring!)

Reduce the fats and oils (but don't eliminate--I am also a traditional foods omnivore that is big on fat soluble vitamins--esp. for kids, so this is a strange territory for me--lowfat ayurvedic spring! We think of it as lowER fat spring diet!)

So this list is NOT what most people consider kid food and we are even having trouble getting our not very picky 3 year old to eat a lot of it. I find if I just compromise, like he gets grapefruit and berries and dandelion tea with honey (only sweetener recommended in spring--always raw!) every day and then eats less (but not none) of the heavy winter foods, that seems to work well. I put ginger and cinnamon in his goat yogurt he has for snack each afternoon. He takes a little bite of candied ginger before meals (loves it). I am pretty stickler about things like mac and cheese and fried foods in the spring, though, so he's getting none of that type of "kid" food.

Today:

Breakfast:

Me and DS: Half grapefruit, 2 soft boiled (pastured) eggs, 1 slice Ezekial bread* with butter and blackberry jam, dandelion tea with honey

Lunch:

Me: Half turkey breast sandwich on Ezekial bread with tiny bit mayo, spring mix, alfalfa sprouts, tomato (not spring, but okay); radish, baby carrots, few potato chips (potatoes are spring, the lard they were fried in not), blueberries

DS: Half turkey breast sandwich on Ezekial with tiny bit mayo, baby carrots, blueberries, few chips

Dinner (out):

Me: Grilled chicken breast in lemon butter sauce, steamed broccoli, few bites penne* (white semolina); salad of spring mix, chickpeas, green peas, carrots, cucumbers (not springy--too wet), beets.

DS: Grilled chicken with lemon butter, more penne than me but not tons, steamed broccoli; beets, green peas, chickpeas, grapes

Snacks for DS: dried pears, blueberries, candied ginger (tiny bit)--missed his yogurt today

*grains: spring grains are barley, buckwheat, corn, rye, millet. Wheat is too heavy and mucous-forming for spring, as are oats. We compromise with sprouted wheat, millet, etc. Ezekial bread, but eat no more than 2 slices a day. The pasta was an eating out anomaly. I am trying to explore hot cereals for spring, like (organic, non-gmo) corn grits.

Seems like a lot of learning, work, and change at first--but it's starting to make so much sense to me and it's becoming really natural/easy to follow--and it tastes and feels great!

The idea of this kind of eating is that each season has certain qualities that our bodies mirror: dry heat in summer, dry cold in winter, and heavy and wet in spring. Our bodies tend to mirror these qualities and nature's foods (growing at that time) are the antidote. If we eat seasonally, we can counteract these qualities, that if left unchecked create mucous in spring, overheating in summer, and dryness and/or mucous in winter.

In winter the dryness tells our bodies to create mucous (to wet itself essentially) but most of the time we overshoot and lay down mucous (too much of it) everywhere (including the sinuses and intestines). This makes a great breeding ground for bacteria and viruses, i.e. colds!

In spring, if we don't dry out the winter mucous with the drying, astringent foods, the problem just gets worse--leading to spring colds, allergies, etc.

Then summer comes and we overcompensate to correct all that mucousy wetness and we overheat/over dry (esp. if eating heating foods: salt, spices, red meats--which I am a fan of, BTW, in general--esp. in winter). When we go from one season to the next without counteracting the previous season's qualities, we just get worse and worse.

I found all this when my 2.5 year old (then) son had a terrible, persistent (like it didn't wax and wain) red rash around his mouth last late summer. Is lasted 3 months (always there, always angry red!) and even accompanied some hives when he played in the hot sun! I researched and tried so much from eliminating this food after that to homeopathy to who knows what. Finally I found "Perfect Health for Kids" and read about overheating kids with heating foods (salt, spices etc) in the late (hot!) summer and the rash, hives, etc. that would result. I started him on a summer antidote (pitta-pacifying) diet and it resolved within a few weeks. The cold prevention grew from my reading and now I am convinced! Hoping to cure DH's allergies!

Don't know if anyone made it through this huge post, but this lifestyle is changing the quality of our lives, I hope it can for some of you, too!
post #12 of 13
I will add another vote for vitamin D and elderberry (we use the New Chapter one - Immunity take care or something like that). These are the supps that we are doing this "sick season" that we did not do last year and the difference is night and day. Last year, like you, we had the sickest year of all - countless gastros, colds, coughs, flus, ear infections, etc. This year we've had maybe 2 very mild colds.

The other difference, now that I think about it, is that I've been getting more sleep (ds is sleeping better now, and dh has been able to let me sleep in more often). I tend to have a pretty crappy immune system, and last year half the time I was the one making my kids sick. I have also been taking probiotics which may have been making a difference as well.
post #13 of 13
oh yeah, sleep.

extremely important!
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