What if you found yourself pregnant....

[LBMarie9]

3 1/2 months after getting amalgams removed. ummm yea.

what is still safe to do while pregnant? vit c flushes? epsom salt baths (a limit on how often?) can I take same amount of supplements--more or less? what is the good form of Folic acid that I need to buy and get on now?! Green juices for me and the baby--is that okay?! I'm nervous but hope things will work out okay :&

can I do Flax for our omega 3's because I won't do any fish while pregnant.
also--what is it that people say about avoiding allergens while pregnant?! my son is Gluten, dairy, egg and DD soy and Dairy. would I avoid those all? (in addition to all nuts and peanuts? that would be hard I'd think) also- are we supposed to get a lot of fat while pregnant? protein? or is the fat just while nursing?!

what else do I need to know to lessen all damage?! just eat very healthy?!!!

p.s. can you take pascalite clay while prego?! what other random things should I ask about?!

[dannic]

Congrats!
I think the key thing is to not mobilize any existing mercury, right? So you wouldn't want to overdue it on yeast protocals, ect. I would *think* that epsom salt baths would be okay. I'd take a normal amount of C, but not flushes.
You want food folate, folinic acid and 5-mthr, right, WhoMe? Hope this gets your thread started!

[tanyalynn]

You want folate, Thorne Basic Nutrients, as well as their prenatal, have real folate.

I wouldn't do flushes or epsom salt baths. How long have you been doing green juices? I got a headache from them, so I wouldn't do it, but if you've been doing them really regularly and don't have any reaction, you probably don't need to stop. I think juicing other veggies, like beets and carrots and celery, is different than greener stuff (I think it's the chlorophyll that's extra-available when it's juiced, vs just chewing it, that can mobilize).

I'd do something like acupuncture or homeopathy to help your body work well, and avoid anything you think _you_ might be allergic to, it's really a stress on your body to deal with that. At a minimum, I'd assume gluten and dairy are on the "no" list but if you have a good idea of what you react to, then avoid those things.

Do a supp for DHA, I wouldn't use flax, there's a conversion that needs to be made from that form of omega-3 to the one that our bodies can use, and when in doubt, I'd think people with health issues aren't good at conversions. There are algae-based ones if you want to avoid fish, search for vegan DHA.

I'd get a blood test for vitamin D and supplement to get to a good part of the range, you may need to supplement B12 as well, metals deplete it, and it works with folate.

A good multivit supp with zinc, the Thorne multi-minerals supps, Citramins and Biomins, both have quite a bit of zinc.

[LBMarie9]

thanks!!!

so tanya you say no to epsom salt baths---what is your thinking with that? it mobilizes stuff? hmmm with green juices I do green smoothies and juices here and there it seems I react better to green juices than smoothies--but if I get headaches I will not do it (I guess then I'd better just have lots of salad)-

I'm still learning to be a supps person since I like to get it all in my diet....would you link me to a thorne prenatal supplement that you think would be ideal? would that have vit B12 too or I'd need more?

don't overdo it on the yeast protocols-whaT are these?

so keep up the vit D- what would a normal amount of vit C be? I get quite a bit everyday in my diet so I'm not sure what "extra" would be good to take if any? WDYT?

[LBMarie9]

and what about milk thistle?! what herbs to avoid that would mobilize that I may eat/use?!

[dannic]

Milk thistle is contraindicated in the first trimester.
I meant like if you were to get a yeast infection, not to hit it really aggressively--yeast stores mercury, so when it dies off it mobilizes in your blood stream and can affect fetus and your breastmilk.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by LBMarie9

thanks!!!

so tanya you say no to epsom salt baths---what is your thinking with that? it mobilizes stuff? hmmm with green juices I do green smoothies and juices here and there it seems I react better to green juices than smoothies--but if I get headaches I will not do it (I guess then I'd better just have lots of salad)-

My HCP recommended against both for me--she said no epsom salts while nursing, and said green juices/smoothies may cause mobilization and since I got a headache, I think it was accurate for me.

I'm still learning to be a supps person since I like to get it all in my diet....would you link me to a thorne prenatal supplement that you think would be ideal? would that have vit B12 too or I'd need more?

Metals deplete B12 in unusual ways, and we absorb more B12 with a sublingual than a swallowed pill. So a separate sublingual may be a good idea. And if digestion isn't great, absorbing B12 in food or swallowed pills can be even less likely.

This is a Thorne Basic Nutrients multivit, it has higher amounts of some things than the prenatal, and I'd think, trying to make up deficiencies and have an easy pregnancy, I would consider this
http://www.nationaldiscountvitamins....roduct_ID=5801

And I'd probably pair it with the Thorne Citramins or Biomins, they have a lot of zinc (pregnancy is very zinc-draining, plus with metals and previous pregnancies, there's already been a lot of demands on zinc), plus about equal amounts of calcium and magnesium and other minerals.

But they've got a prenatal too...
http://www.nationaldiscountvitamins....roduct_ID=5779



don't overdo it on the yeast protocols-whaT are these?

so keep up the vit D- what would a normal amount of vit C be? I get quite a bit everyday in my diet so I'm not sure what "extra" would be good to take if any? WDYT?

I think there's a good argument that regular, healthy adults need 4,000-5,000 mg of vitamin C a day, so unless you're eating something quite odd, you're not close. People with metals issues may need a lot more--when I first started taking it, I was taking 44 grams per day. Not everyone is like that, but it's possible.

I value vitC for its ability to help excrete circulating toxins, help deal with whatever you encounter in daily life (air quality, water quality, inefficiencies due to stress, whatever). I use Now foods sodium ascorbate.

I hadn't realized milk thistle was contraindicated in the first trimester, that's interesting.

[LBMarie9]

do you think being so neaseous all day and blacking out when I walk right now has anything to do with the metals, etc?

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by LBMarie9

do you think being so neaseous all day and blacking out when I walk right now has anything to do with the metals, etc?

Nausea in my last pregnancy had to do with liver function and too much work to do. I hear acupuncture can help, or homeopathy if you get the right remedy. I didn't consider either, I just felt miserable.

Blacking out--could your blood pressure be really low? Adrenal stress is common for people with metals issues and low BP is common there--not required, but common. You may do better with more salt.

[Koalamom]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

I wouldn't do flushes or epsom salt baths. How long have you been doing green juices? I got a headache from them, so I wouldn't do it, but if you've been doing them really regularly and don't have any reaction, you probably don't need to stop. I think juicing other veggies, like beets and carrots and celery, is different than greener stuff (I think it's the chlorophyll that's extra-available when it's juiced, vs just chewing it, that can mobilize).

I'd do something like acupuncture or homeopathy ...

Congrats LBMarie9!!

I agree about homeopathy. It has really helped us with our metal issues and the way we handle them.

Tanya, what no epsom salt baths? I take them 1-2 times a week and am breastfeeding a 8 month old. It is one of the big thing that have helped us with getting over allergies. Now epsom salts are bad?! Don't tell me that. My head is spinning.

[tanyalynn]

I never did them, my HCP recommended against them but we didn't discuss it in detail. But it's not something I have a strong opinion against, other than my HCP's rec, because a) I haven't tried it, and b) I've never read of bad outcomes associated with them--even if they are problematic for some people, it's doesn't seem to be an acute or serious thing.

Some of this stuff is really tricky to decide on, and this seems more in the gray zone, whereas there are other things that are clearly unsafe. I pass on my HCP's advice to me because in general I have found her advice to be excellent and very helpful, but this wasn't something she said, "Under any circumstances, do not...." like she did with other things.

But as for during pregnancy, like the OP is asking, I'd tend more toward not doing them, just because darn, it's a _really_ vulnerable time, and I'd lean toward other things to help with circulating toxins that I have more confidence wouldn't encourage anything new to start moving.

[LBMarie9]

i really appreciate the replys.

I got a great prenatal---I just need to do better figuring out the vit c amounts--I'll work on that.

I am so nauseous I'm having a hard time eating anything--blah- whatever.

what does contraindicated mean in pregnancy?

[LBMarie9]

with these problems-- would YOU eat wild alaskan salmon while pregnant? my normal rule for myself is no fish during pregnancy? what do you all think about this decision? (chicken and beef sound sick--no pork--- and fish sounds good today) what do you all do? with a possible mercury problem already I shouldn't right? WDYT?

[WuWei]

Wild salmon is fine and beneficial.

Here are the fish to avoid: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/TIP03642...-to-Avoid.html

Mercury Levels in Commercial Fish and Shellfish




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