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post #121 of 247
One thing to keep in mind is that in most areas school lunches are going to be cheap- perhaps cheaper than many families can make their own. Plus it is certainly very convenient to not have to pack lunches. I know after I started middle school I was expected to make my own lunches. I was alway jealous of the kids that had parents that packed their lunches.
I could get a full lunch with milk for $1.10 in highschool- It is now $2.00-2.25. I was at a school where a lot of kids got a subsidized lunch ($.25) or free lunches. Nowadays schools are still buying at bulk, buying through the gov't (subsidized), and they are reimbursed/subsidized through lunch programs/grants, etc., so it IS going to be harder for families with economic challenges to make a lunch that costs less. Plus, it is hard to send hot lunches with a child-- it can be expensive to buy reusable stuff (kids lose stuff, etc.)
I remember a part in episode 3, the lunch director (rhonda?) mentioens that the lunch w/o 2 breads is non-reimbursable because it didn't meet the federal guideline. So even though it was a lovely 9 veggie pasta dish, since it didn't have the required 2 breads or whatever, they would have to pay for the full cost of that lunch meal.

I think a lot more parents are going to be looking into the lunches and asking questions and putting pressure where it needs to be. He might be making some blunders, but overall just getting started on this issue and bringing light to it is going to create good change.
Jessica
post #122 of 247
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Also, am I the only one who found the show slightly patronizing? Perpetuated stereotypes of what society thinks of West Virginians/Appalachians - unhealthy, uneducated, skeptical of outside "foreigners"...
I like the concept of the show, but hate the implementation. I don't know if that is Oliver's fault or that of the producers of reality shows in the US.

This snippet from a review of the show that pegs how I feel about it
The premiere episode has absolutely zero structural critique, not even a passing comment about the reason that millions of mothers feed their kids processed foods is because it's cheap and fast, which is a pretty good solution for people who are short on money and time.

Oliver places the responsibility for unhealthful eating exclusively at the feet of the individual, seemingly without concern for the cultural dynamics that inform individual choices
post #123 of 247
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So maybe JO isn't "doing it right" Maybe he isn't using the proper diet that agrees with our personal eating habits - but it is something. He's not low carb, he's not vegetarian, he's not vegan, he's not this or that. But at this point something is a whole heck of a lot better than nothing. And nothing has been the popular route for far too long.
I agree. He may not have it all figured out, but at least he's calling attention to the problem.


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Just like every other show or special that features Appalachian culture, they are finding the worst possible people to feature on the show... You cant find the barefoot & pregnant in a gradeschool, so you search untill you find kids who don't know what vegetables are...

I just hope that the intelligent mommas on here don't fall into the trap and remember that you can find extreme examples of ignorence in every group...
We don't all fit the stereotypes about "Natural Living" families, so please just keep in mind that the the show is not exactly a fair representation of the area & I wish they had been a little more broad in their focus.
Just FYI, I see nothing in Huntington that I couldn't find at our local schools here in metro Atlanta. It feels like it could be being filmed around here. In fact a friend and I were just discussing today how appalled she was at the menu for a state-funded pre-k program she was looking at for her dd. Donuts for snack, fries as a vegetable etc. This program brags that it's meals fit USDA guidelines. So it is not just Huntington.
post #124 of 247
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it feels like you are sensitive to that type of portrayal in the media, so i just wanted to let you know that i don't see that at all in this show. it really feels like Anywhere, USA.

And I don't feel like they are showing the worst possible people- so far all the kids- the highschool kids, the 12 year old jamie is teaching to cook (justin?) have been great and I dont feel like any of them are Appalachain stereotypes. The teacher who stepped it up to teach the kids about veggies, the mom who is really trying to change her family's eating habits.. they all seem like positive people.

I agree. I have seen all three episodes and I don't feel I'm watching, "Real House Wives of Appalachia"
If anything, it really feels like a snippet of "Real Food of America." This could be anywhere in USA and I think JO makes that point a lot.
post #125 of 247
I agree that its a nation wide problem. Im in a pretty nice area of Canada, a subburb outside of Toronto and though I was shocked by the kids not knowing the vegetables, It was mostly because MY kids know them and are only 3.5 and 15m...my dh pointed out that not only 3/4 of out friends kids wouldn't the parents wouldn't either. The more I thought about it the more I realized he was aiming on the low side. My family had never had eggplant until I made it for them.

I know my 16y old cousin can EASILY go through the day eating MAYBE 2 vegetables
breakfast-poptarts
lunch-slice of meatlovers pizza
dinner-chicken fingers/fries
snacks granola bars/beef jerky
drinks pop, pop and more pop

So do we count the sauce on the pizza as a vegetable? The fries?

Its disturbing!
post #126 of 247
I thought last night's show was great (maybe a little contrived, but it is tv after all). I loved that the grumpy radio guy finally saw things from Jamie's perspective. I think the connection between food and community is starting to show too. Whatever the flaws of this show, I am glad someone is talking about it. And his message is pretty mild -- cook food using vegetables. I feel like he is giving that community the tools they need to improve their health. I'm a firm believer in taking personal responsibility for our actions and it seems to me Jamie is being positive in allowing those kids that want to change a way to be responsible for their own health.
post #127 of 247
I agree that it is a bit contrived but at the same time, it has to be making some people think. I feel like what I have been trying to promote in my own household - very simply more whole foods, less junk, is finally being portrayed in popular entertainment. I really like what he is trying to do.
post #128 of 247
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I thought last night's show was great (maybe a little contrived, but it is tv after all). I loved that the grumpy radio guy finally saw things from Jamie's perspective. I think the connection between food and community is starting to show too. Whatever the flaws of this show, I am glad someone is talking about it. And his message is pretty mild -- cook food using vegetables. I feel like he is giving that community the tools they need to improve their health. I'm a firm believer in taking personal responsibility for our actions and it seems to me Jamie is being positive in allowing those kids that want to change a way to be responsible for their own health.
I was so happy to see the radio guy come around! Despite some pitfalls of the show (it is tv, we can't expect it to be perfect!), I feel his general ideas and teachings are great. He is planting seeds...he is planting seeds in the minds of Americans to eat better, to add more vegetables/fruits, whole foods and not the processed junk that most are putting into their bodies. It may not be the most picturesque diet of whole organic foods BUT it is a start and a heck of a lot better than what many are eating. I am a fan. I love and appreciate his efforts.
post #129 of 247
I don't think there have been any negative "Appalachian" stereotypes on the show. Honestly, if he didn't keep mentioning the name of the place, I would never associate the show with that part of the US--it definitely has an "Anytown, USA" feel.

I have to admit, I don't quite understand the animosity of the radio guy. He might not love (or even like) Jamie, but he seems to be actively against the very idea of people preparing healthy food, which I don't get at all.

ETA: What is the deal with Jamie calling everyone "brother"?
post #130 of 247
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I don't think there have been any negative "Appalachian" stereotypes on the show. Honestly, if he didn't keep mentioning the name of the place, I would never associate the show with that part of the US--it definitely has an "Anytown, USA" feel.
Definitely feels Anytown, USA to me.
post #131 of 247
I just watched it online...you know your pmsing when you cry watching people cook healthy food.
post #132 of 247
We tried watching episode 4 last night, but for some reason when we turned it on, it was episode 3 for the second week in a row! Did anyone else notice this? It was seriously the exact same episode we'd seen the week before! We checked back in several times over the hour, and it wasn't just highlights. I was so disappointed! They aired a repeat of episode 3 - at least where I live. We'll watch it online this week.
post #133 of 247
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We tried watching episode 4 last night, but for some reason when we turned it on, it was episode 3 for the second week in a row! Did anyone else notice this? It was seriously the exact same episode we'd seen the week before! We checked back in several times over the hour, and it wasn't just highlights. I was so disappointed! They aired a repeat of episode 3 - at least where I live. We'll watch it online this week.
First they replayed last weeks episode and then the next hour was the new episode.
post #134 of 247
I've been so busy I forgot!!! It's Saturday! That means I can watch the next episode on hulu!!! I've been voluntarily tv-free for so long it is funny to be excited about a show. Sorry, I am amused by this (not the show, my being giddy about a tv show).
Jessica
post #135 of 247
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I just watched it online...you know your pmsing when you cry watching people cook healthy food.
I've cried in every episode so far. Jamie touches my heart. And I love his.
post #136 of 247
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but is anyone else just in love with his accent? I love his voice, and he's cute to boot (plus the awesome message, of course).
post #137 of 247
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ETA: What is the deal with Jamie calling everyone "brother"?
Don't you mean "bruvva"?
post #138 of 247
I have really lost interest in the last couple of episodes. It's just more of the same. As much as I like JO (and am enjoying one of his cookbooks right now!), this show had flatlined for me. I wish I could find reruns of his old cooking shows. I used to love watching them a few years ago.
post #139 of 247
the flash mob was awesome! I had to download that song from itunes
post #140 of 247
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I agree. I have seen all three episodes and I don't feel I'm watching, "Real House Wives of Appalachia"
If anything, it really feels like a snippet of "Real Food of America." This could be anywhere in USA and I think JO makes that point a lot.
I do not see a single thing in this show that presents an Appalachian stereotype. Honestly, it could be Philadelphia. There are people here that think and eat the same way and the school lunches are just as bad. And I'm pretty darn sure there are kids who cannot identify veggies.

I do think Jamie actually cares. It comes across. Sure, this is Tv and he is a celebrity, but I don't see anything "fake" in his message or what he's trying to do. I'm glad the radio guy came around as it was getting old. And that coffin. It's sad because I actually know a couple of people who would need a coffin that size if they were to die now.
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