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Turning a transverse baby?

post #1 of 6
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Hi all,

Wow, this feels like deja vu. A little over 2 years ago, I was on other MDC forums asking for help in turning my breech baby. I found out DS was breech at a 32-week ultrasound to check a low-lying placenta. Despite weeks of Webster, moxibustion, breech tilts, and two version attempts, our little guy remained stubbornly breech. I found--again thanks to MDC--about the only OB left in the tri-state area who does vaginal breech deliveries, the amazing Gae Rodke. But after her attempt to turn him was also unsuccessful, when she went to talk to me about a vag breech delivery--since I was 38.5 weeks, nearly 5 cm and contracting--she noted that he was still very high and had a big loop of cord below him. With that substantial risk of prolapse, even Dr. Rodke felt the risk of a vaginal delivery was too high, so I had my C-section.

Fast forward to now. I'm 27.5 weeks pregnant and had assumed that I had a very good shot at a VBAC. Except my DD seems to have the same stubborn nature DS had in utero. Last week, on a U/S, she was transverse with her head below my right ribs, spine along the top of my uterus, and butt below the left ribs. I had thought that she moved a ton this week and was very hopeful that she got out of transverse...so did a quick positioning U/S (for free--the woman is awesome) at the place that will do our 3D in a few weeks. She did indeed move--to transverse the OTHER way. Now her head is tucked in exactly where DS' head was, below my left ribs; her butt is below my right ribs, and her spine is along the bottom part of the uterus (she's basically in a U shape).

While I know that technically I still have a ton of time to turn her, especially since she's still moving a lot, DS really settled in breech early on and got stuck and stayed that way, and I fear this will happen again. I have the tiniest dip in the top of my uterus--barely arcuate. (Can't be seen on U/S, only was seen during the C-section--DS' head had fitted so tightly into the one side of the "heart" that Rodke said it looked like he was wearing a skullcap.) So I'm afraid her head could get stuck on the one side of the heart shape, butt on the other, and that'll be it. The fact that she flipped from one totally transverse position to another, almost exact opposite transverse position makes me worry that she's starting to like it that way, or my uterus is starting to get molded that way, or both.

Plus, I have read on spinningbabies that it's actually harder in the third tri to turn a transverse baby than a breech, because the uterus begins to mold itself for a transverse baby and there's more room for them that way.

So...I want to do everything I can to move this kid! I'm already starting all the stuff I did with DS--this time, four weeks earlier so hopefully there's a lot more room for her to move. I'm doing nightly breech tilts with frozen veggies on the top of the uterus, and I start Webster with my chiro on Tuesday. But is there anything else that anyone knows of that's specific to transverse positioning that helps them move head down?

On another board I'm on, someone else mentioned that her midwife recommended the Prenatal Cradle--the belly/back support device--to help encourage her transverse baby to move down, since it keeps the belly in a narrower position and doesn't let it expand out to the sides as much. It worked for her, but I can't find any other reference to using it this way.

Any tips? Advice? Experience with transverse lie? I hate the idea of spending the last trimester once again struggling to turn my baby, only to go through the misery of another C-section. Seriously, if someone had told me that I was guaranteed to need another C, or even had like a 75% chance of one, I don't think I would have gotten pregnant again. I dread another C that much! I just want to get this baby turned head down so I can enjoy the last few weeks of my pregnancy and have a decent shot at the natural childbirth I dream of.

HELP!!!
post #2 of 6
So sorry that you are going through this. My son was in a breech position for a period of time at the end of my last pregnancy but my Dr. managed to turn him. I also got pelvic pain in my last pregnancy so I have been reading about the various support belts available for pregnancy and one of the benefits is said to help with optimum positioning of the baby. Maybe it could help. It sure sounds like you already know all of the other tricks. Best of luck!
post #3 of 6
Oh mama, i wish I knew what to say that would be helpful...but I have no experience with breech. I did want to send that little one of yours some HEAD DOWN vibes! Come on little girl....you will make your mama sooo sooo happy if you go to a head down position so she can VBAC you!

Sending you positive thoughts and I really pray for you that she will turn herself head down and stay with plenty of time for you to not worry!
post #4 of 6
Hi. DD2 was transverse a few weeks before she was born and someone from MDC (Sorry, I don't remember her name) suggested putting a bag of frozen peas where her head was and a heating pad on my pelvis. Within a minute I felt some commotion and sure enough she had moved into the correct position! It was awesome. Unfortunately, DD2 turned transverse 14 hours into labor and stayed that way so I ended up with a c-section anyway.
post #5 of 6
I'm 36 weeks and my boy does somersaults every day still. My MW said today that it felt like I had a ton of amniotic fluid and he is small. So I should just keep doing what I'm doing. I'm seeing my chiro weekly and he does the Webster technique. When my little guy is transverse, doing pelvic tilts helps convince him to move more head down. I would suggest seeing a chiro regularly from now on and to be very careful about posture. Moving around a lot, walking, cleaning, getting exercise also seem to help my little man move into the correct position. It is when I'm sleeping that he moves head up.
post #6 of 6
You can try a homeopath. I saw one when Elliot was transverse @39w and he prescribed pulsatilla. I also saw a chiro who did Webster. I tried everything so I don't know exactly what flipped him, but he moved and stayed right after we DTD around 39w.

Also, my doc sent me for an external version even though I had the scar. Apparently our local rules say a c/s scar is a relative contraindication for an ECV but my doc said they key word is "relative." Since my babe was mobile and small and I am not obese she thought I was a good candidate, and the attending OB who did the procedure agreed. Yep, too bad DS didn't stay .

Don't get too freaked out by the uterus-molding thing. Elliot went transverse @35w and lined himself up properly a week before the main event.
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