FDA suspends rotavirus vaccine

[ASusan]

Glaxo's Rotarix Rotavirus Vaccine as Precaution

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10171255

because it contains a pig virus uke

and I love the spin on it --

"We live in a world that's teeming with microbes," Hamburg said, ... Dr. William Schaffner, a vaccine specialist at Vanderbilt University (says) that the discovery is "a consequence of our improved science and ability to detect things that we never could before."

[Arduinna]

It's a benign pig virus but we are suspending it anyway.


Thanks for posting the link.

[Jugs]

Quite telling that the article is in the Money section instead of the Health section...

[hildare]

holy..pig! I just heard this on npr and came here to post the same story, because I'm a news addict, read lots of sources every day, heard NOTHING about this till just now on the radio.. pretty weird. Even weirder is that earlier today I'd started really researching the vax thing (currently delaying vax for my almost 5 m.o.) and this really helped me make my mind up. Guess we're going to

[PlayaMama]

i think i'm missing something? why is this a big deal

[japonica]

But vaccines are supposed to be sterile

Hamburg said the pig virus DNA fragments have been found in Glaxo's cell bank, meaning they were present from the vaccine's earliest development.

...but until now this particular pig virus is not one that FDA thought vaccine makers needed to check their products against.

Um, adventitious agents. Like the old FDA docs from the late 90s talking about avian leukosis virus in vaccines. That's what you get with animal tissue cultures. Stuff may be in there along for the ride. And companies aren't really bothering to check.

[Bea]

and the pig virus isn't known to cause any kind of illness in people or animals

Well ok then, I'm reassured.

I'm positive, that every illness and health oddity in the world of humans and animals (although aren't we all animals?), porcine circovirus-1 was at the top of the list to check for as a causative agent.

Sign me up for a shot of harmless pig virus!

Sorry for the sarcasm but seriously, it's not like it's a small book to fill with the things that science doesn't know.

[caned & able]

This is the second time this vaccine has been stopped. How many times does it have to be recalled or pulled from the market before every one figures out the truth...?

[BethSLP]

I wonder if they thought SV40 was no big deal too when it was first discovered in polio vaccines.

XOXOXO
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[BethSLP]

OMG, I just read the article and they DID reference SV40....as no big deal. WTF?? People are in denial about SV40? How did I miss this? I thought it was an established fact that SV40 caused cancer. argh.

I'm SO glad my kids are vax free. I'd be freaking out now if they weren't.

XOXO
B

[SunshineJ]

Wow! Can I just say that I'm SO glad this one wasn't offered to DD? By that time we were being very cautious about vax's but hadn't said no just yet, and DS had a horrible time with rotovirus, so I would have jumped at it. Really looking at the overall situation tells the story. They say it's not a concern, but if it really wasn't any big deal they wouldn't have pulled the vaccine, kwim? That whole argument of "better to be safe than sorry" doesn't hold up if they claim to already know it's safe.

[mayasmum]

Thank you for posting this...just been looking up the ingredients in the pink book and....
Rotavirus (Rotarix)
Amino Acids, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Chloride, D-glucose, Dextran, Ferric (III) Nitrate, L-cystine, L-tyrosine, Magnesium Sulfate, Phenol Red, Potassium Chloride, Sodium Hydrogenocarbonate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium L-glutamine, Sodium Pyruvate, Sorbitol, Sucrose, Vitamins, Xanthan

I do not see evidence of any bacon in there.....This is what scares me, we do not know what they are putting in there...and we are meant to be injecting all of this into our babies bodies 36 times. No way. I am trying to find a way to undo the damage I did by vaxing my dd, and for myself and hubby.

[ema-adama]

This vaccine is not injected. It is an oral dose. I am not trying to excuse a porcine virus being in medicine for young babies.

[mayasmum]

Originally Posted by ema-adama

This vaccine is not injected. It is an oral dose. I am not trying to excuse a porcine virus being in medicine for young babies.

Sorry - got distracted by the pig bit It kind of shocked me - oral/injecting - it still should not have been in there.

[ema-adama]

Originally Posted by mayasmum

Sorry - got distracted by the pig bit It kind of shocked me - oral/injecting - it still should not have been in there.

No worries. I have come across this concern quite a bit today, and in this case it is just not relevant.

[laohaire]

Originally Posted by mayasmum

Thank you for posting this...just been looking up the ingredients in the pink book and....
Rotavirus (Rotarix)
Amino Acids, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Chloride, D-glucose, Dextran, Ferric (III) Nitrate, L-cystine, L-tyrosine, Magnesium Sulfate, Phenol Red, Potassium Chloride, Sodium Hydrogenocarbonate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium L-glutamine, Sodium Pyruvate, Sorbitol, Sucrose, Vitamins, Xanthan

I do not see evidence of any bacon in there.....This is what scares me, we do not know what they are putting in there...and we are meant to be injecting all of this into our babies bodies 36 times. No way. I am trying to find a way to undo the damage I did by vaxing my dd, and for myself and hubby.

I'm no expert, but the list of ingredients seem to be a list of amino acids. Well, I guess not all are amino acids, but several are. This makes me think this is a list of inert ingredients only. I don't know where amino acids are processed from; it seems quite possible they are all animal in origin? But even so, this seems like an inert list only to me. And, oddly, in alphabetical order rather than in order of volume.

[gbailey]

I think in Jenny McCarthy's books she talked about her son being vaccinated against rotavirus but he got it anyway.

My cousin blogged about this today.
http://organicmadre.blogspot.com/201...ine-drama.html

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by laohaire

I'm no expert, but the list of ingredients seem to be a list of amino acids. Well, I guess not all are amino acids, but several are. This makes me think this is a list of inert ingredients only. I don't know where amino acids are processed from; it seems quite possible they are all animal in origin? But even so, this seems like an inert list only to me. And, oddly, in alphabetical order rather than in order of volume.

The rota vax is grown on vero cells....that is where all kinds of viruses hitch a ride.

Vero cells are susceptible to a broad range of viruses

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/AC/...rd/3616b1a.pdf
remember only viruses that have been already identified are RECCOMMENDED to be screened for by manufacturers during the making of a vaccine.
There are most likely thousands if not hundreds of thousands of yet to be identified viruses. That is what happened with SV-40. It was, up to that point, an unidentified virus. So if they don't even know WHAT they are looking for how can they screen for something they don't know exsists yet. This is why Live vaxes give me the heebie jeebies. You have NO idea what is actually in there. This was proven with the polio vax and with the measles vax.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by Bea

Well ok then, I'm reassured.

I'm positive, that every illness and health oddity in the world of humans and animals (although aren't we all animals?), porcine circovirus-1 was at the top of the list to check for as a causative agent.

Sign me up for a shot of harmless pig virus!

Sorry for the sarcasm but seriously, it's not like it's a small book to fill with the things that science doesn't know.

If Rotarix is found to contain infectious porcine circovirus, then its use will certainly be discontinued. However, detection of small noninfectious fragments of porcine circovirus DNA Rotarix will likely lead to resumption of vaccine use

what's a few forein DNA fragment...as long as they are non-infectious right?
http://www.virology.ws/

[Marnica]

Pig virus found in rotateq now as well

http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/pi...vax/2010-05-07

Remember that pig-virus DNA that turned up in GlaxoSmithKline's vaccine against the diarrhea-causing rotavirus? Well, DNA from the same pig germ has surfaced in Merck's rotavirus preventive

And they wonder why many feel the FDA is not to be trusted. First they told parents, don't worry, just get the rotateq instead....now their party line is don't worry viral DNA in vaccines is perfectly safe.

The good news: The FDA doesn't consider the viral DNA to be a safety risk. There's no evidence that the pig virus--known as porcine circovirus, or PCV--poses a risk to humans

yeah...that's what they said for 40 years about sv-40. Some still insist sv-40 doesn't cause some cancers even though it has been isolated from tumors.