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The MIDDLE finger!!!!!!!

post #1 of 12
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......... how do i explain this to my 7 year old....
he learnt it on the school bus...

I told him it was a very mean gesture that we don't use, but not sure what else to say!
post #2 of 12
I basically said the same thing that you said when my kids first saw that. I also told them that if they ever did it in front of a teacher, that the teacher would probably send them to the principal for it and that the teacher would impose some type of punishment (ie missed recess).
post #3 of 12
Well my DD is only 3 (4 next week!) but has come home with a few swear words from her father

I basically tell her that if anyone she doesn't know hears her say it she might get any reaction from none to really serious upset/shouting/anger. I am not terribly worried about her swearing around the house (we don't, so she tends not to) so i thought it only fair to warn her of the "real-world" consequences of talking like that.
post #4 of 12
I told my daughter the truth about what it meant she is 8. She was like Woah okay that is bad!
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by iamama View Post
I told my daughter the truth about what it meant she is 8. She was like Woah okay that is bad!
What is the truth? When i was a kid i was told it meant f-word off, but as an adult i was told it meant "sit on this and swivel"...
post #6 of 12
GoBecGo- I believe universally it means f off...sit and swivel never heard that...very creative!
post #7 of 12
I think you handled it well. And I like the idea of letting your ds know of how strongly/negatively some people are likely to react if he does give the middle finger.
post #8 of 12
My now 6 year old experimented with that gesture last year. It was a little funny because she thought it was her pointer finger. I have not corrected her!

DD would get really mad at me and when her usual tantrum and kid cussing (things like "I hate you" and "You are stinky") did not get a reaction she would flip me a number one sign. Being the kind of kid she is I new better than to react.

After a seeing that this was not going to stop with ignoring we had a conversation about what it really means one day after something (can't remember what) brought it up at a time when she was not mad. She was pretty embarrassed to learn the meaning behind it and the behavior stopped.

For the record it does mean "f--- you." Sit and swivel is just a variation of that sentiment in my book.
post #9 of 12
DS (7) has recently discovered this little gem. Since we haven't gone fully into sex ed, etc. telling him the exact meaning would have little impact with him. However, it was sufficient to tell him that it's considered highly insulting, and if he does it to the wrong person he will get sent to the office, the other person will get very upset and angry, and in the extreme, may want to beat him up. That was all it took - then we picked up DH yesterday, and as he came to the car he jokingly flipped off a co-worker!
post #10 of 12
My kids are 6, 8, 10 -- when it came up, and it still occasionally does as the next grows up, I told them it meant "f-you" (what we learned here) and that it's usually very rude and unkind.

I've also told them, though, that sometimes, adults or teenagers will do the middle finger with their friends to be silly, the same way I might say "shut up" to dh in a silly way, even though I wouldn't say "shut up" to most people.

Then we usually launch into a cross-cultural chat about gestures when the "why does it mean that?" question comes up -- dh worked with a man from Brazil ... who, after several weeks of dh making a circle with his forefinger and thumb to show "OK" when they had language barriers, finally approached dh -- and asked what his problem was. He said to dh, "I come to work every day, I work hard, and every day you call me a-hole, a-hole, a-hole. Why is this?" Come to find out -- in Brazil, this gesture does NOT mean "OK." It means, "a-hole."

Conversation meanders from there about language and so forth.
post #11 of 12
I always thought it meant ''sit on it''. Um, I think you handled it fine
post #12 of 12
when I was a kid someone told me (I really don't remember who) that it meant "go to h-e-double-hockey-sticks" . I never knew until I was a much older grown up what it really meant. It just never occured to me and then when it did I was all !

I think explaining that it's a really rude gesture and is the equivilant of cussing somebody out is sufficient. My kids haven't discovered the F-bomb yet and although they're pretty informed as far as sex ed it just wouldn't make any sense to them. They think of intercourse as "mating" like on Animal Planet. "Mate You"! just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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