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Are Catholics considered Christian???

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A friend & I were discussing this yesterday-she is a 'Christian " in that she believes Jesus died for her sins .
I was raised Luthern & became Catholic in 1997.

I also believe that Jesus died for our sins,( I also believe in reincarnation,that Jesus had past lives but was the Son of God-learned about this from Edgar Cayce stuff mostly---Jesus was born of Virgin Mary-suffered ,died & rose again)
Since I do believe Jesus died for my sins ,am I a Christian???

Sorry if this is confusing to some .
post #2 of 116
It is my understanding that all religions that encompass Christ as savior is Christian.
post #3 of 116
Are Catholics considered Christian???

Dunno if they are 'considered Christian' but they self id as Catholic and as I understand it, prefer it to stay that way, thank you very much!

Any religion where one is encouraged to pray to dead people isn't Christian in my holy book. Including Catholicism and it's santas...Bible forbades contacting the dead.
post #4 of 116
Yes, Catholics are Christians.
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Originally posted by playdoh
Are Catholics considered Christian???

Dunno if they are 'considered Christian' but they self id as Catholic and as I understand it, prefer it to stay that way, thank you very much!

Any religion where one is encouraged to pray to dead people isn't Christian in my holy book. Including Catholicism and it's santas...Bible forbades contacting the dead.
This comment is ignorant and self-righteous. Yes of course Catholics are Christians. All others are called PRODESTANT religions, but are also Christians.
post #6 of 116
Interesting questions! I'd never thought about it this way. I was raised catholic, left and followed non-denominational christianity for a while.

My first reaction was of course catholics are christian, due to belief in jesus christ as savior. But at the same time they are separated from christians...like they [i]usually[i] aren't lumped in with all other denominations of christianity, when referring to christians. But I do think you are christian, if you're catholic.
post #7 of 116
I am not ignorant, nor self righteous in this area.

Website removed!



In many areas of Catholicism, there is no Biblical basis for the practices. Does the Bible encourage bowing down or kissing statues? How about praying to saints? Or that Mary was a Virgin for life?
post #8 of 116
Well in the US I've noticed that Christian usually means fundamental bible thumping, etc. people. Not being like that at all, I say Catholic, not Christian if I'm asked.
post #9 of 116
Wow, playdoh, that website is kind of---wack!

Not sure it is respectful to post it, except as a curiosity, as I posted the Jack Chick one. I mean, the skulls and crossbones are a bit over the top.

The leaders of the Catholic Church have commited atrocities, it is true. Many in the long past. Fewer in modern times.

but as the Cath Ch defined Xtianity from 325 til Martin Luther invented Protestantism, I think we owe it to them to call them Xtians. Even if their actions often went against Bible teachings. After all, they admit to being sinners. They made mistakes. Protestants have too.
post #10 of 116
Playdough, that website you posted is inflammatory with its use of crossbones on either side of it's title. You may not agree with Catholicism but it is not evil and deadly. Christianity is a broader term than Catholicism and it encompasses Protestants, Catholics, and many other groups.
post #11 of 116
Someone(s) need to reread their European history.

Protestant relgions, aka Christian, broke off from Roman Catholic Christianity. They did not at that moment Become Christian, having been something else before. Through most of the Middle Ages, in Europe, one didn't say one was Catholic as there was no need. Roman Catholicsm was the only game in town. If you were Christian, that automatically meant you were Catholic. All other attempts at other forms of Christianity before the Reformation (again in Europe) were violently put down.

There were other churches even then: Coptic, Eastern Orthodox..., but I'm only talking about Europe here.

Now-a-days, Catholics say the are Catholic as a way to specify which of the many forms of Christian they are.

All Catholics are Christian, but all Christians are not Catholic.

Just because the RC church has doctrines that some think are not in the Bible, though growing up we certainly learned all those doctrines With their Biblical justification, does not make them not Christian.
post #12 of 116
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Originally posted by playdoh
I am not ignorant, nor self righteous in this area. Here is a good website that shows why the Catholic traditions violate the Christian Bible:

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm

Just to clarify I didn't say you were, I said the comment was. Please do your research before you make comments as you did. You are apparently not catholic, nor do you have any knowledge of the catholic religion.
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Oh, I totally agree, otbonmom, Catholicism is not evil nor deadly.
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I just thought I'd add, if I want to learn about a religion--like if it's Christian or not--I would go to a website from that particular religious organization, not one by those who are out to denigrate, insult, belittle, etc, it.

If I wanted to learn about Judaism, I'd look for a Jewish website rather than a Palestinian, or any other potentially hostile group's website, for information.

If I wanted to learn about some denomination of Protestantism, I'd not go a Catholic website, and vice-versa.

If I wanted to learn about Rastaferianism, I'd not be going to the DEA's website either!:LOL

If I wanted to learn about some form of neo-Paganism, I'd not be searching any form of Christianity's websites, and vice-versa.

....enough examples?
post #15 of 116
playdoh, look around that website. Check out the homepage. It is hilarious. Actually it reminds me of the pastor of my church growing up, which is why I ran screaming from xtianity for about 30 yrs.


Are you pulling our leg(s) or what, dude?
post #16 of 116
Here is a fun tidbit--

She provides links to pages on:

Quote:
WICCA WITCHCRAFT, THE NEW AGE, BUDDHISM, HINDUISM AND OTHER PAGANISTIC MUMBO-JUMBO: Series of articles on the paganism and eastern mysticism so pervasive world-wide --including the Hebrew Roots Movement, Masonry, etc. Learn that modern Judaism is not Biblical Judaism--modern Judaism is based on the blasphemous Talmud which is the "traditions of men" that King Jesus spoke against.


And this:

Quote:
The Antichrist Slideshow

Starring: The Popes of Rome

and

The Great Whore of Revelation Chapter 17

The Roman Catholic Religion

Admission is free. Turn on your speakers and cut off the lights for a multimedia experience. Enter when you've gotten yourself situated and can spend some time. This is not a 5 minute presentation. Hellbounds, be prepared to confront the truth. A horrific tale of--

Blasphemy
Torture
Licentiousness
Cruelty
Damnation
Whoredom
The power of the Devil
The foolishness of men who are his dupes
The heroicism of Christian brothers and sisters who resisted to the BLOOD striving against sin. Hallelujah!

Enter The Antichrist Slideshow
Gotta make time for that! :
post #17 of 116
poor jazmommie--this discussion is not meeting her question.

I think that you believing that Jesus (as God) died for your sins makes you a plain Christian--as if there were a such thing. Now, as for what denomination you would feel at home with; you would need to look at the theology of each sect...
post #18 of 116
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Originally posted by Meiri
If I wanted to learn about Rastaferianism, I'd not be going to the DEA's websiteeither!
:LOL

by any reasonable definition, catholics are christians. there are lots of c'ian denominations who refuse to accept this - eg the Bob Jones folks courted by the current president - but imo such a position is untenable.
post #19 of 116
Yes. Catholics are Christians. Always have been, always will be. Some other Christians who obsess over the faith vs works debate tend to claim that because Catholics differ with them on that issue they are not Christians. It is a petty way to behave toward fellow follwers of Christ.
post #20 of 116
I don't believe going to anyone church or identifying with one specific denomination makes you a Christian at all. Both Protestants and Catholics are saved only by the grace of Christ. Anyrthing we claim as part of the way choose to worship Christ and wether or not it is cool with Him is up to Him. OI do think we need to be careful when we venture outside of the Bible for our theology.
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