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post #21 of 39
I think a lot would really depend on how old the child was when s/he came under my guardianship. If it happened during the teenage years, after a lot of faith formation has taken place, I would probably do everything possible to accomodate and encourage the child to continue to practice their faith (if that's what they chose to do). However, a younger child... I'm less sure about. I think that so much of "raising a child in a faith" has to do with family practice of that faith. And I don't think that I could change my family's practices/observances in order to raise another child in a faith that I don't feel drawn to.
post #22 of 39
No, I couldn't, especially if I had children of my own. I'd either have to lie to my friend's child or lie to my child, and I'm not into lying. I'm an agnostic/atheist and will raise my children as such. My sister is a Christian, and I'm not sure I would be okay with her raising my kids, and I know that I wouldn't be able to properly raise her children Christian.
post #23 of 39
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The responses so far are very interesting. My DH and I would never leave either of our children to a family member who does not share our religious beliefs, but we have quite a few to choose from. However, neither of my sisters have the same options we do. It began as a very weird conversation with my lil sis and her new hubby. I just like to get other peoples viewpoints.

I think I would have to agree that if the child was older and established in their religion it would be one thing, but it is very different with small children.
post #24 of 39
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
No one says you have to lie, or practice the religion yourself. But I do agree if you are so opposed that you are incapable of even allowing others the choice to practice their families religion you shouldn't raise their kids. Of course I'd never ask a person that was rabidly atheist to raise my kids anyway.
Well...people are not born with religious beliefs. So, in the case that one would become guardian to a very young child or infant, I doubt said child would be wanting to "practice its family's religion." The new guardian would have to be passively practicing the religion in order to teach the child about it. No, I would not go out of my way to take a 2yo to church.

Older children will decide what to believe on their own, and I, as an atheist, could tolerate and support an older child's wishes if I felt they were following an ethical and loving path. Some religious teachings, IMO, are unethical and unloving, and I would not be supportive of a child in my care following those doctrines. If that makes me "rabid," then so be it.
post #25 of 39
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Well...people are not born with religious beliefs. So, in the case that one would become guardian to a very young child or infant, I doubt said child would be wanting to "practice its family's religion." The new guardian would have to be passively practicing the religion in order to teach the child about it. No, I would not go out of my way to take a 2yo to church.

Older children will decide what to believe on their own, and I, as an atheist, could tolerate and support an older child's wishes if I felt they were following an ethical and loving path. Some religious teachings, IMO, are unethical and unloving, and I would not be supportive of a child in my care following those doctrines. If that makes me "rabid," then so be it.
Agreed.

And in my experience, many children would stop going to chuch if it were really their decision to make. I would guess that most children wouldn't really ask the guardians to take them to church if other options were available, so it's not like the kids in that case are going to feel deprived of church attendance.
post #26 of 39
If someone entrusted their child to me like that, I would bend over backwards to help them grow in the religion their parents practiced. I myself am Episcopalian, but if my Jewish nieces and nephews were entrusted to me, I would be with them at Temple every Friday night. I'd feel the same about any religion (as long as it isn't on a cult watch or something). I would try to respect the parent's wishes.
post #27 of 39
This is actually a question that's come up in my family, since we too have a number of religious faiths in the various branches (from pagan, to devoted roman catholic, to reformed but kosher observing jewish, to buddhist, to devoted athiest, etc). And with a lot of young children bouncing around the subject of selecting guardians has been done to death.

My feeling is that any family member who selected DH and I as guardians would be more or less ok with the fact that we are Pagan Unitarian Universalists. We would do our best to ensure that their children were raised in and familiar with the tenents of their parent's faith, but our own family would remain pagan unitarians and that would influence a lot of our day to day activity. So, for example, if my jewish cousin passed away and left her children to my care, I would meet with the local rabbi and do my best to ensure that they were adopted into and supported by the local jewish community. But I wouldn't keep a completely kosher kitchen the way my cousin does (with two sinks, two fridges, two stoves, etc) and her children would accompany us to UU or pagan rituals simply because that is "what we do".

Likewise, when DH and I were trying to figure out who would take custody of our own children in the event of accident, we didn't consider relations who have belief systems we disagree with. We finally asked family members who have a similar religious background to be the primary caretakers (they are asatru), and family members who have a different but not antagonistic belief system (agnostic, raised unitarian) to be the "backup" caretakers. But knowing their personal religious convictions played a part in who we selected... basically, we picked people we thought would be the best parents possible to our little ones, and religion was part of that "best parent" package. We don't assume our kiddos would be raised exactly the way we would do it (up to and including religion) but we do expect that these guardians would honor our wishes to the extent practical and make sure our children were familiar with paganism/unitarian universalism.

But one way or the other, it's a decision made after many discussions between parents and between the parents and the potential caretakers, so hopefully this would be discussed honestly (and then never needed).
post #28 of 39
DH and I have removed proposed guardians from our wills whom we later found out to be very religiously, politically, and ethically different from us - even though these family members are siblings AND it would generally be expected that they would be named proposed guardians. We just couldn't stomach our children being raised by them even though they are somewhat rational and responsible people.

So unless under duress, I wouldn't. If the kid were Jewish, then I'd find a family to take the kid to services and to host them for holidays - but further than that it would have to be an open discussion with DH and I as to how far we would be willing to go.

Liz
post #29 of 39
I don't think I could. Not because I wouldn't want to honor the parents' wishes, but because my religious beliefs are so intergrated into my life and the way we raise our children that I wouldn't even know how to seperate it. This was a BIG consideration for us when we were making out our will, and we purposely chose family members who have the same religious and political views as us to be our children's guardians if something should happen to us.
post #30 of 39
No, because our religious beliefs are who we are and affect everything we do in life and because the practice of anything else is specifically forbidden.
post #31 of 39
I would talk to your friend. It might not be an issue. They trust you and it might not be an issue. It might not matter to them.
post #32 of 39
Nope. I hold my beliefs because I believe they are true (not just valuable or life-affirming or enriching or what-have-you), so teaching contradictory beliefs would not only be dishonest, but from my point of view actually dangerous and immoral. And there'd be no way around it, as DH and I are both into presuppositional theology and plan to homeschool... and go to a church where my dad's the pastor... so it's not a subject that'd only come up once a year, you know?

I'd simply point all this out to someone who asked us to raise their kids. If they were happy for their kids to be raised in our religion, then cool (but in that case, I'd wonder why they weren't of our religion themselves!). More likely, they'd choose someone with a more compatible belief system, as well they should. My Catholic SIL and I are amicably agreed that neither of us will raise each other's children, because I couldn't in conscience bring her son up Catholic and she couldn't in conscience bring my daughter up Protestant. We're both OK with that, and didn't get into a knock-down-drag-'em-out religious debate about it or anything. It's just the way it is.
post #33 of 39
Definitely age dependent.
post #34 of 39
I'm a pretty big non-believer with only a nod to the seasons in my house. If I suddenly had a little ward/child, I'd probably not deal with the issue. If the ward/child was already a teenager and a believer.. I might drive them to worship but not sit with them there.
post #35 of 39
It would depend on if the parents specified something... Otherwise I would raise them in my religion.

Personally my religion is very important and my children would go to a friend or family member who holds it in the same importance.
post #36 of 39
i am very VERY strongly opposed to any monotheistic religion.

my mom has specifically stated that she would most likely take my children to her church (and as a compromise expose them to various different religions) and for that reason she is not the beneficiary in my will.

if i had a friend that was very specific about which religion she wanted her children raised with i would definitely take them to services and honor her wishes. however, they would be raised in my house where we are emphatically agnostic so there would be that dichotomy.
post #37 of 39
If a non-Catholic friend or family member wanted to name me as guardian, I'd be upfront that I'd be raising their kid/s Catholic. If they weren't okay with that, then I'd have to decline. Likewise, I would never willingly leave my children to someone who would not raise them Catholic. I have this issue with my mom, who is our children's only grandparent. She's very close with them and wants them if we die. She's agnostic but said she would raise them Catholic, which to her means taking them to Mass on Sunday and putting them in Catholic school. I appreciate the effort, but that's really not enough for me, because our faith is a huge part of our life. So idk what to do there.
post #38 of 39
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Definitely age dependent.

Fascinating question. I agree that it would be age dependent and also to some degree dependent on which religion/sect we are speaking of.
post #39 of 39
No, I wouldn't raise kids with the intention of fostering a faith other than my own. I would be flexible about the daily details that were important to the family (denomination, seasonal traditions, etc.), but I would still keep and share my core beliefs. It's who I am.

I can't imagine anyone willing me to care for their kids and expecting anything else.

Tjej
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