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Watching my brother fall

post #1 of 7
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My brother has been unemployed/underemployed for years. We think he suffers from depression but wouldn't admit it. He has some other health issues that he keeps seeing doctors about and hoping to cure all his problems. He seems too afraid to go find a job, think he can't do it with his health or something. As far as I know his health problems are mostly indigestion, high cholesterol, maybe high blood sugar. He's been taking medication for all of them. I told him lots of people have all sorts of conditions and they all work just fine but he wouldn't listen at all. The thing is he has a part-time minimum wage job, doing heavy physical labor for 6 - 8 hours per shift. I don't know how he can manage 30 hours of physical labor a week and claim he can't do a full-time office job. He was a college teacher before.

His wife is ready to give up on him. My parents have been helping him in the last couple years said they can't help him any more as they're retired. I offered to give him some help finding a job but he's not ready to do job hunting yet. I understand he's a very stubborn person and wouldn't do anything unless he's really willing himself. But I'm so worried. He probably has a couple months left until my parents kick him out from their basement. What would you do if it's your brother? I thought about finding his doctor and beg him to tell my brother it's perfectly OK for him to work. Would that be messing with other people's business too much?

If he ends up in our basement that would be awful. He and I have nothing in common and we argued everyday growing up. We already have an old grandma living with us who has nowhere to go. DH said we'll never take anyone in again. Plus I have mild autism and hate social interaction with people I don't like. But I just can't see where he can go otherwise.
post #2 of 7
I'm sorry about your brother. My DH, who has mild Asperger's, is very much the same way. Chronically underemployed and very fearful about getting another job, even though he is stuck at minimum wage in a job he doesn't like.

I don't think there is much you can do if he is resistant to seeing someone for depression/counseling.

He should be able to find a room to rent with the money he is making. Around here, people can find a room for 100 to 200 a month.
post #3 of 7
I'm so sorry. I can tell how concerned you are.

If I were to take a stab at what led someone from college teacher to manual laborer living in his parent's basement, I would guess that he was never in love with his field in the first place. Maybe it was a career he felt pushed into. Maybe he got in and found it to be something different from what he expected. Or, maybe, like you, he can't stand to be cooped up in an office with people he doesn't like.

Or it could be he's just a person who prefers to work with his hands. My husband supports our family of five by working with his hands. Not all physical work is low-paying.

Pressuring, trying to convince, lovingly urging your brother to go back to a job he says he can't do--that is not a good idea.

If he were my brother (funny, my brother actually does do manual labor and lives in my mom's basement,) I would apologize for telling him what to do in the past, and let him know of my willingness to help in a way that he finds helpful in the future. I would stop assuming that I know what's best for him.

Also, there is no way I would ever let my brother move in with me
post #4 of 7
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Originally Posted by mamallama View Post
Also, there is no way I would ever let my brother move in with me
exactly. the help he needs is a depression evaluation, not a new basement room. don't take him in.
post #5 of 7
Ditto the last 2 posts. You taking him in would not only make things more difficult for you, it would NOT be good for your brother because whatever he's dealing with, he needs to understand that his unwillingness to try to address either his fears or just go ahead and get a new job are going to impact his own family in serious ways.

You letting him live in your basement would just prolong him feeling the serious impact of his choices. He's an adult, he's making choices right now that sound like they're hurting him, and this may sound cold but it's real: the best thing for him is to really grasp the seriousness of his choices. If you can help him think about counseling or talk to his doctor I think those are fine, but letting him live with you just prolongs his denial.

And don't let anyone make you feel bad if he asks to live with you and you say no! He's an adult, as far as you know there's nothing seriously wrong with him, and you're willing to help him into counseling or look for a job but he's not willing to do it, so he's got to live with his choices.

Does he have kids? I can see how that would make it even harder if he ends up kicked out of your parents place, but that doesn't change my above advice.

Keep doing what you're doing, which is being supportive and available to talk and willing to advocate for him to his doc, help with the job search, etc. Those are productive steps. Hopefully he'llcome around and want to take you up on them.
post #6 of 7
You can't "save" your brother, as much as you may want to out of love and concern for him.

He has the right and the responsibility to make his own choices since he is an adult, even if those choices cost him everything. It's hard to watch though.

My dh has to watch his brothers make bad choice after bad choice too and he's had to realize that there's nothing he can do to make them wake up and see reality.

Offer your support, your advice if asked, and most of all your love. Do not let him move in bc then you will become the next enabler in his life. He needs a wake up call in order to make the necessary changes.

Sending hugs to you and prayers for your brother
post #7 of 7
Well.... I vote to take him in - but I'm coming from a place of extreme regret.

Your brother may not be in the same shape mine was - my brother was severly depressed and committed suicide. My dh and I had several conversations while my brother was alive that involved caring for him. Neither of us wanted him living in our rec room, dependent on us......but we knew deep down that he just couldn't function. Always losing a job - angry - alone - ....

Anyway - he shot himself in the heart about 6 or 8 months after my dh and I talked and decided NOT to offer him a place to live...... soooooo......

just my point of view - but I would give my right arm to have my brother living in my rec room right now.
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