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post #1 of 15
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not sure where to put this, so move it if there is a better place.
we have this little boy who comes to our house 3-4 times a week after school. he sometimes is at our house for 2-4 hours after school. i am not baby sitting him, he is a friend to my younger boys. i am getting frustrated because this is never reciprocated. if my boys go to their house they are always sent back to my house, with their son in tow. when he comes over it is like snack time. seriously he eats like a meal here. they are not lacking in food, nor are they poor. in fact compared to them we are the ones lacking in funds. when he comes over they play inside if the weather is bad and the boys room is trashed, i mean EVERYTHING is out and all over the floor and the beds end up stripped and everything. it is NUTS! yesterday i put my foot down and said before he left they had to clean up some of the mess, when i went up to check, he was sitting on the floor playing with the cars and not doing anything. plus yesterday he ate a cheese stick, an apple two bananas and a glass of milk and then wanted a sandwich. i don't normally have issues with feeding other peoples children but usually there is a back and forth, or at least it isn't 3 times a week. i want to say something, but i don't want to come off sounding pissy. like why can't my kids come to their house once a week and eat their food and hang out for 4 hours?
any suggestions on how to handle this nicely? thank you.

h
post #2 of 15
I would put my foot down on the helping with cleaning and send him home when he announces he is hungry.
post #3 of 15
Stop serving food like the pp said as soon as he asks for food he needs to go home and get it. As for them shipping your chldren back. I would not allow him to come in. He also needs to go back home.
post #4 of 15
I have this exact issue with some neighbor boys. The last time they showed up, they both came right in without knocking and announced "my mom said we could stay until 8!" It was 5:00. I ended up feeding them and sending them home after about an hour. And after they helped clean up the playroom.

I have a hard time with it. Usually I can catch them before they come in and tell them to play outside or to go home if I really can't handle the extra kids.

It does help get the politeness aspect through to my boys though. My older son is usually appalled by how they behave.
post #5 of 15
I would give one food item.If the child asked for more I would tell him to go home to eat. If the child will not help clean up I would let him know he is not welcome to return for 1 week. If the next time he does not help clean up he can not return for 2 weeks....and so on.

I prefer having kids at my house, so I don't know what to suggest about having your kids over at their place.

Best wishes for a happy resolution!

I keep all doors,windows,and gates locked.Oh, and ringer off in case someone gets an urge to call at 8am to come over and play.
post #6 of 15
I don't regularly feed neighbor kids unless there's been an agreed upon playdate or babysitting situation. In the summer we might get out popsicles or something for everyone, occasionally, but my kitchen is closed between meals, and I certainly won't play fast-food operator to a kid who's own refrigerator is just down the street. If someone's thirsty, I'll offer water, and usually they decline and run home for juice.

Saying "No" is not mean. You need to start using that word, or words that mean "No". "Sorry hon. If you're hungry you should probably go ask your mama." (or you could just set out carrots sticks and limit it to that) "You're thirsty? I have water. If you want something else you need to go see what your mom has." "Thanks for walking my kids home! We'll see you tomorrow, bye now!"

And when he comes over, set the time limit before they start playing: "Sure, you can play. But I'm going to send you home in an hour, and 15 minutes before that we're all going to clean up together". And then be really serious with yourself about enforcing that.

If you stick by it, he will either shape up himself or self-limit the number of times he comes over. And personally, I probably wouldn't send my kids over there ever for two reasons: 1. The family's own kid is either really eager not to be there or is getting "kicked out" by his parents and 2. It doesn't sound like you know them real well or that as a family they'll be good long-term friends.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
it's weird because the parents seem really nice. i don't blame the kid at all. he is in a house of girls, so maybe being in my house of boys is a break for him. i don't know. i just wish it wasn't so often and that they also did it back.
we just moved here with in the last year, before that we had a great homeschooling community that would meet 2 times a week or more and the kids were always sharing with each other... it didn't bug me at all to share food or my house because it was always a give and take thing. now it just seems like i am doing all the giving. it is making me a bit irritated.
i do need to put my foot down. i just never really had to and it makes me mad that i have to. i guess we are just going to have to have days he can not come over. and i am going to have to keep track of the time and have clean up something he does before he leaves. i love the snack idea... put out some carrots and apple slices and that is it.

h
post #8 of 15
I would go talk to the parents. They may not realize how one-sided it's been, especially if they've got a house full of girls as well. Their son may just be following your kids home because he wants to play with them. I'd be nice about it and assume the best of the parents, but tell them honestly that you feel like he comes to play a lot and would they be interested in setting up a reciprocal babysitting arrangement so your boys could play at their house sometimes too? Or do they want you to send him home? It may be that they're setting boundaries that feel comfortable for them by sending your kids home and assuming that you will do the same. And then thinking that if you don't send their kid home, it's because you don't mind him being there. It sounds like you just left a great community, and this neighbor *could* be a great opportunity for you to re-create a great community in your new place, if you set your own boundaries more and clear up expectations on both sides.
post #9 of 15
I would definitely stop feeding him. The unspoken neighborhood rules where we live are that other parents sometimes offer a drink or something like fruit snacks, but if you need a meal, you go home. So, when he asks for something, send him home and say he can come back when he's eaten.

As for the coming over all the time, it might not be that he's being sent over, he might just prefer to play at your house. That happens a lot with us. During the summer/breaks we have a pack of about 6-8 kids who sort of move together (2 are ours). Last week was spring break, and I would say that 70% of the time, they were at our house, 20% of the time they were outside and 10% of the time they were somewhere else. They tend to go over to the neighbor's house for about 10 minutes, and then suddenly, they're back at our house. I have no idea why. It's not like our house is bigger, cleaner, has better toys or cooler parents (we're distinctly uncool).

When you're tired of having him there, saying to him kindly but firmly "it's time for you to go home, we'll see you tomorrow."
post #10 of 15
I like a lot of the suggestions here, but the issue here really isn't the boy himself, it's the parents who think it's ok to send their kid to you, but won't take your kid in at all. And the whole feeding thing definitely has crossed over to entitlement from the way you describe.

You really need to just go over and have a talk with teh parents. You can start off really nice: "I've been noticing that while your son comes over 3 times/week - and it's fine with me that he does, he's a good kid and my kids like playign with him. But he comes over 3 times a week, but when I send my kids over to your house you always send them back. Why is that?"

Just ask. See what answer you get. If they deny it or whatever, ask "It seems unfair to have it be one-sided, so I'd like to know if my kids are also welcome at your house twice a week or so?"

I just don't think it serves anyone to beat around the bush or "send the message" by just sending the kid home.

Everything else discussed above about not feeding him I think is also totally fair and right. But really your issue is with the parents and I think if you go over with a really nice but "curious" attitude to ask about this dynamic, you deserve a nice courteous answer. If they don't give it to you and are rude or mean about it, then you know where they stand and you can decide if you still want their kid over. And really, if they react that way, do you really want your kids over there?

Doesn't have to be confrontational or mean, at least not on your part. But it is an entirely fair and important thing to bring up and ask the parents about. And it won't end unless you either stop allowing their kid inyour house altogether, or you address it with them. Good luck, I'm sure it'll work out fine in the end.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by neetling View Post
I would put my foot down on the helping with cleaning and send him home when he announces he is hungry.
That is exactly what I would do.

It's ok to tell him. "It's too messy when your friends leave (in front of this friend, but to your kids) and I just don't feel like dealing with it this week, so maybe next week for ONE day".
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
i did decide if he comes over the next couple of days i would either say we couldn't play today OR send them all to their house. i know i do need to talk to the parents, it could be that their son just wants to come to our house and when my boys head over he wants to come back to our house. now i just need to get up the nerve to confront them with this in a nice way. lol

h
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by mamaofthree View Post
it's weird because the parents seem really nice. i don't blame the kid at all. he is in a house of girls, so maybe being in my house of boys is a break for him.
Are these older sisters? It might be the sisters, not the parents, who are sending the boys over to your house to play.

With the food, I wonder if you have more desirable food than they do. They might have nothing but a cabinet full of uncrustables on offer.
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
2 of them are older, but not by much. he is 7. they are 8 and 10. and actually i think it is us who has the "goodies" i LOVE to bake. lol although he tends to eat most of our bananas and apples. which i know they get. i run in to them at the grocery store often. maybe they have food rules? i don't know.

h
post #15 of 15
i've actually said directly to a 5 year old...hey you gotta stop coming over for the rest of the week. i just can't handle it. this mom is getting nuts!! it's too much for me but you guys can all play outside, etc.

it worked.
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