TF and wine?

[onthemove]

do you eat a TF diet and drink wine on a regular basis? I love wine and drink it with dinner often. (I am talking about 4/5 glasses a week) I am wondering what your thoughts on drinking wine are...

[blueridgewoman]

I drink the occasional glass of wine-- more like one glass every week or every two weeks, but that's just because alcoholism runs in my family and I'm VERY careful about that. I don't see a problem with it, and I actually think it's probably beneficial from a lot of perspectives. It's a pretty old, traditional beverage. I think the latest research is that a glass a day is beneficial.

[LauraLoo]

Isn't wine fermented grapes? Seems pretty in line with TF to me!

I *maybe* have a glass every other week with a meal. I don't necessarily limit it to this, but that just seems to be what I do. I know that there are plenty of countries where drinking wine daily is more common place.

[my_baby_love]

I'm really new to TF, but I feel like wine is a pretty traditional beverage and many isolated cultures make alcoholic beverages out of whatever fruits they have available to them. I would say the key is in moderation and it has to be something you are comfortable with doing. Personally, I also drink wine almost every evening (after the kids are asleep and I can enjoy it ) and I don't really want to give it up.

[spughy]

Wine is fermented grapes. TF is all about the fermentation. Go for it.

[onthemove]

Wine is fermented grapes.

I never thought of it that way but of course!

[Smokering]

I don't like wine as a beverage, but I'm learning to cook with it. Not sure if that destroys the TF-ness of it, but it makes for yummy beef stew.

[Magelet]

I think that wine and beer (preferably bottle conditioned/unpasteurized beer) are just fine in moderation as part of a TF diet. I actually feel that hard alcohol in extreme moderation is also fine as part of a TF diet. (It's traditional after all.) I don't personally LIKE hard alcohol, but if one did, I think in moderation, it's ok.

I think that alcohol, like food, is something american's have lost a healthy cultural context for. In Europe, (it seems to me) that drinking wine or beer with dinner is more common, and drinking LOTS in private is less common. Children's first expeiriences with alcohol are more likely to be in a family setting, drinking wine or beer with dinner and family, whereas here/the part of america where I grew up, almost everyone started drinking (maybe they got their first sip of wine from their parents, but not more than a sip) in secret, with their friends. It seems to me that in addition to providing a healthy culture of food teaching our children what is and is not good to eat, and how to make/eat it, it is important to provide a healthy culture of alcohol, teaching them how to treat alcohol with respect.

(maybe off topic, sorry if it is.)

[TwilightJoy]

NT is downstairs and I am upstairs, so I'm not going to go find it, but I remember reading about alcohol in it. I remember it saying unpastuerized beer and wine was okay- not sure else it went into, but you can look it up!

As for me... I stick with mostly red wine as my drink of choice.

Originally Posted by Magelet

I think that wine and beer (preferably bottle conditioned/unpasteurized beer) are just fine in moderation as part of a TF diet.

Where do you find unpasteurized beer? I've never seen it in stores.

[Magelet]

My DP says unpasturized beer is hard to find in stores. Brew pubs or small local breweries might have it. If a beer is bottle conditioned, it is unpasturized. (that means that the beer was put unpasturized into the bottle with a little sugar (I think it is usually corn sugar?) and then capped, and then let to sit, where the yeasts eat the sugar and make the carbonation. As compared to using a pump to pump pasturized beer full carbonation.)

My DP is a homebrewer, so his beer is unpasturized, and I know a lot of other people who make their own beer.

(I agree that I personally prefer red wine, though DP makes some pretty dang great beers)

[Millie Ivy]

Originally Posted by Magelet

I think that alcohol, like food, is something american's have lost a healthy cultural context for. In Europe, (it seems to me) that drinking wine or beer with dinner is more common, and drinking LOTS in private is less common. Children's first expeiriences with alcohol are more likely to be in a family setting, drinking wine or beer with dinner and family, whereas here/the part of america where I grew up, almost everyone started drinking (maybe they got their first sip of wine from their parents, but not more than a sip) in secret, with their friends. It seems to me that in addition to providing a healthy culture of food teaching our children what is and is not good to eat, and how to make/eat it, it is important to provide a healthy culture of alcohol, teaching them how to treat alcohol with respect.

(maybe off topic, sorry if it is.)

I think that was very ON topic. It's also my family's attitude about drinking. We mostly do red wine, though I am building a repertoire of whites that I enjoy as well. We sip some with every dinner, and my kids often have a sip and occasionally have some in a fancy glass for themselves. (I'm talking two or three sips) Yesterday was our youngest kiddo's birthday and I had some sparkling wine that's too sweet for my taste. I gave the bog kids each a champagne glass with a bit and it made our taco nacho birthday dinner a very elevated occasion.

I digress. I agree that (if it's enjoyable to you and you can be moderate, which I do work hard to do) having a drink with your family can be a healthy and pleasurable addition to your meals. My parents treated drinking the same way, and I never felt the need to go out in secret and drink unsafely with friends. I could hang out at home and have a drink with my family and not risk driving or getting caught or sick out with a bunch of stupid people.
And, thankfully, the few times I overdid it as an older teen/young 20's, while learning the value of moderation, I WAS at home and safe and didn't feel like I had to hide from my parents.

So that's my long winded answer of yes, yes we do drink wine and feel its a TF thing.