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post #21 of 26
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Thanks for all your input everyone, it gives me a lot to muse over.

Just to clarify - at this stage I *think* for her, her night wakings to nurse every 1.5-2hrs are not a nutritional need, nor a physiological or medical problem, its just that she doesn't know how to go back to sleep without the nursing. So the goal of the rocking/patting etc is to teach her other ways of this i guess (just going from the what the Jay Gordon family bed book says on night weaning)

Also - I'm not letting her get TOO worked up. She was a bit angry on and off for the period of awake time, but it was more like a wee grizzle, then awake and happy, then a wee grizzle etc etc. I think if she got really upset and seemed actually hungry I'd just forget the plan and feed her. but it hasnt' got to that point,which does make me think its not so much a hunger thing. And, obviously, she is being offered/given plenty of other forms of comfort at all times.

We did night 2 of it last night, and it was very similar to night 1 - an awake period of about an hour (shorter than previous night,and this time she was awake and happy) before falling back asleep, nursing sometime after midnight, then sleeping a longer stretch to dawn.

It might sound easy enough to just roll over and nurse her every hour or 2 when she wakes, and obviously I've been happy enough to do it for the last 10.5months. But she is quite wriggly while feeding - and often wakes to play after her b/f as well (its a stage I know) and the kicking in my stomach tends to wake me fully, and I've struggled with insomnia, so once I'm awake its difficult to fall back asleep.
When she was younger and just fed quietly and went back to sleep it wasnt' so much of a problem.
So yes, I guess I'm trying to change her behaviour for selfish reasons. But as some of you (not all of you obviously - I notice the 2 most opposed to this method are both getting nice long 7hr stretches of sleep!) will know - its hard to function on small pieces of broken sleep, for nearly a year. My body is still recovering from the the 2 months of 30-60min wakings thru the night that we had when she was younger.

If we don't have some progress in the next few days I think I'll just go back to normal and try again in a few months. But she is sleeping in longer stretches already, (which has been SO nice for me - to get a 3 or 4hr block..)

will let you know how we go in the next few nights.
oh - and for those who asked - she has 2 naps (morning and afternoon), just when she seems tired - it usually works out around 9am and 1pm, for about an hour each time. depending on how late the afternoon sleep is, bedtime sometimes isn't till later. Often (maybe 2 or 3 times a week) not until 8 or 8.30ish. We don't really have a set bedtime, just go with when she seems tired - but I say 7 - 7.30ish because thats probably the most common time.
post #22 of 26
Well my thoughts on this are:

1 I know babies can go for 5hr stretches. I have a baby who does that.

2 The age is a red flag to me b/c I've noticed it seems common for babies to hit an anxiety stage at the end of the year. If I had to do any "training" at all I would not have chosen 9-12 months to do it.

3 But at the same time, if she just adjusted to another soothing option without crying or anxiety, then I guess it worked and glad to hear you will get more sleep!
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by claddaghmom View Post
Well my thoughts on this are:

1 I know babies can go for 5hr stretches. I have a baby who does that.

2 The age is a red flag to me b/c I've noticed it seems common for babies to hit an anxiety stage at the end of the year. If I had to do any "training" at all I would not have chosen 9-12 months to do it.

3 But at the same time, if she just adjusted to another soothing option without crying or anxiety, then I guess it worked and glad to hear you will get more sleep!
Point taken.
FWIW, I have been thinking over what previous posters have said, and am actually considering abandoning ship and trying again in a few months time.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by Kiwiontheloose View Post
Point taken.
FWIW, I have been thinking over what previous posters have said, and am actually considering abandoning ship and trying again in a few months time.
Well I noticed you got a longer stretch the second time around...so maybe you should try offering another solution to her, but don't let her get angry/sad. I mean, maybe that 1st waking, she really needed to nurse. But it's possible the other times are simply her stirring or needing to get back to sleep.

I've seen this with DD. Sometimes she needs to nurse. Sometimes, she wakes up or gets disturbed and then roots around. If the boob is there...she will nurse and it might even wake her up...she might get thirsty, then maybe she sees the tv and wants to turn it on... *sigh* Anyways, if I silently move away while she's stirring, but I hold her hand, she just falls back asleep. It's a matter of reading their cues.

Another thing that came to mind...perhaps she needs a later bedtime or shorter naps. I do remember we had to cut out DD's evening nap altogether for quite awhile. The nap has come back around 4-5pm for us some days, but it's tricky. She might want to sleep until 7-8 which means we'll be up past 2am.
post #25 of 26
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Just thought I'd update this for anyone going through the same thing!

We abandoned this method after 2 nights, and I just went back to nursing every hour or 2.  I can't remember how long it lasted for, but around 12mths she was sleeping in longer chunks - closer to 3hrs, of her own accord.

 

At around 14mth (about the same time I got pregnant with #2) we starting working on getting Daddy to settle her in the night.  We changed the sleeping configuration so it went DD (in sidecar) then hubby, then me.  This reduced the night-nursing down to about 2x a night, with no fuss, which was great!

 

She self weaned at around 17/18mths, when I reached my 2nd trimester, and now at 19mths she wakes about twice a night for a cuddle or some water.

AND!!! huge AND!! she falls asleep at night and for naps BY HERSELF!! completely led by her.  Once night after our bedtime ritual she snuggled down and said "byebye" to me, so I (VERY surprised) said "night night" and left the room.  She fell asleep happily by herself.  I absoluetly couldn't believe it.  And now she does it every time.  occasionally she asks me to stay and read until she falls asleep (very vocal toddler) and I do, but for the most part she just silently falls asleep.

 

I do realise I got completely lucky with this - but did want to tell you as proof that a non-sleep-trained baby can sleep well!

post #26 of 26
Wow! Thanks for the update. I have a 10 month old now and have been pondering stretching out nursings. My guy tells me to wait it out, especially for her to learn to walk and eat more solids... But the tough nights make me doubt myself. Happy sleeping and congrats on #2!
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