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Avoiding regression

post #1 of 8
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DS is 28 months and has GREAT manners for a barbaric little toddler. He says "please" and "thank you" and has great table manners. He knows tons of words, and learns several new ones every day. He spends a lot of time playing with kids who are a little older than he is and is learning a lot from them. We talk about pottying and how his friends have underwear instead of diapers, and that seems to be helping him along in wanting to be diaper-free, or at least interested in learning.

The issue: My best friend's kid is 6 months younger, has only a few words, and the WORST manners I've seen in a kid. Not that I expect a 2-year-old to sit for tea with the queen, but her parents don't correct/redirect "bad behavior" at the table, like slamming her plate down repeatedly, banging her cup, throwing food, etc. I don't put up with those things in my house. I never have. It's REALLY unpleasant at a restaurant, and we eat out a lot, so from day one DS has been taught not to do those things. And for the most part, he doesn't.

Until now.... He spent the afternoon with her the other day, and now when he wants something, instead of saying, "Mommy, please --" and pointing or using the word if he knows it, he reaches, grabs and yells "YAYAYA!" Which is exactly what his little friend does. He's whining more. And today lunch was an embarrassment (and it was just us at home). He was banging the plate, not stopping when I asked him to, and generally being "bratty." His little friend is very spirited, and does what she wants. Her parents allow her to do so, and just act like they're helpless to control her. (Not that parents should "control" their kids, but YKWIM.... They don't TEACH her how to behave nicely, and don't expect her to listen to them, so she doesn't.)

I have worked very hard with DS to teach him to be nice. Yes, I get frustrated sometimes. Yes, I wish I didn't yell. Yes, I realize that sometimes I have unrealistic expectations. Believe me, I know I'm not perfect and I'm not saying I am. But I don't want to have to work even harder to undo the effects of him playing with her just b/c these parents think that "she's too young" for discipline. Avoiding them is not an option, as we're very close (like family). WWYD? How do you explain this kind of thing to a 2-year-old?

ETA: I know I sound judgmental. I don't mean to be. And I *LOVE* this little girl like she was my own. I think what really bothers me is that this behavior is her, not him. That's what she does, it's fine. No, I don't like the way she acts when we all eat out, but that's her parents' issue, not mine. My issue is that the banging, whining, and baby babbling isn't my son. So when he does these things, I see her, not him. It's like he's not my kid at that moment, and I wonder where he went, YK?
post #2 of 8
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Really? No one? Is it that no one else has experienced anything like this, or no one thinks I'm in my right mind to give it any thought? ;-)
post #3 of 8
Well, personally, I think when kids get together they pick up their friends' behaviors. I don't think there's anything you can do to stop it from happening. In an older child, you can talk about it, but until they're much, much older they're going to be experimenting with acting like others act and I think that's totally normal and appropriate. We've been through it, and continue to go through it, with DD, who is 4, and her wonderful friends, who all have their own quirky behavior issues. You can't expect a child, and especially a toddler, not to imitate.
post #4 of 8
Well, my best advice is just keep doing what you're doing. It doesn't matter that she's modeling behavior that you don't want him to see; it matters that you continue to expect him to behave as you've always taught. I'd deal with all the behaviors you just described as if you were seeing them for the first time. Don't worry about where they're coming from or the fact that he seems to be regressing. That will happen many, many times over the course of his childhood and adolescence. Just calmly and cleary reinforce your expectations.

HTH
post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by vocalise View Post
Well, my best advice is just keep doing what you're doing. It doesn't matter that she's modeling behavior that you don't want him to see; it matters that you continue to expect him to behave as you've always taught. I'd deal with all the behaviors you just described as if you were seeing them for the first time. Don't worry about where they're coming from or the fact that he seems to be regressing. That will happen many, many times over the course of his childhood and adolescence. Just calmly and cleary reinforce your expectations.

HTH
That's what i think too. Continue to show him what "right" looks like.
post #6 of 8
I wouldn't sweat it. I've always noticed that traits tend to rub off temporarily. It's a 24hr bug that fades away. I even remember my mom venting about it as a kid. She'd say things like, "No you can't go to X's house today, we have a fancy dinner planned tonight!"
post #7 of 8
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Claddaghmom - LOL!

Y'all are right, as usual. For the past few days, I've been talking to him about the difference between using words and whining, and explaining why his friend does what she does to get attention, and it seems to be working a little. He has started to name his friends before he makes whatever babbling sound he's going to make, and he's quite the impressionist!

When I remind him that they can't say the words yet, but he can, he usually says them right away. I guess I was getting stressed out b/c ineffective communication is a big trigger for toddler frustrations and meltdowns and I'm doing my best to minimize them! I know they're going to come anyway, but I want to prevent the preventable ones.

Thank you all for the insight and for setting me straight.
post #8 of 8
I did this:

For the past few days, I've been talking to him about the difference between using words and whining, and explaining why his friend does what she does to get attention...

and I also explained to him that different families have different rules.

"I am not Mark's Mama; I am your Mama. We don't yell at people in our family."


If it something about which I don't care, I will usually let him do it.

For example:

"Mom, let's get some Lunchables for lunch."

"Why?"

"Bailey brings a Lunchable."

"Ah...so you would like to bring a Lunchable like Bailey?"

"Yes!"

"Okay, then, why don't we make our own Lunchable?"

"Yes!"

We got some ham, cheese and crackers at the store and he took a homemade "Lunchable" to school.
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