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Does it make sense to switch to cloth now?

post #1 of 21
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Hi! DD is 10mos old and I have the opportunity to stay home with her for a while. We have been using disposables because daycare would not allow cloth. I really like the idea of cloth for several reasons, but I'm wondering if it is a good (financial) decision for us to switch at this stage.

Advice?
post #2 of 21
I say it is. You never know when your LO will be ready to toilet train. DS was 2.5 and DD just trained herself at 25 months. Even if you LO trained at 2 that would give you 14 months of cloth and I am sure you will have paid off your cloth stash with money you would had spent on sposies. Not to mention, if you plan on having more kids, you will have them ready to go when they reach that size... or you could resell them and get some money back. I think it would be worth it! You can start to build your stash by buying used cloth diapers to see what you like and don't like and also save money at the same time.
post #3 of 21
Its a very smart choice. The statistics say you will spend about $2500 or more in disposables per baby from the time they are born until they are out of diapers. You might spend $300 to $500 in cloth but you can use them on multiples babies. It is a very big savings. Also if you go with onesize diapers they grow with your baby so you are not buying sizes. The go from about 7lbs to 35 lbs. You will want about 24 to 36 diapers if you only want to wash every 3rd day.
Lynda
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
Please keep the input coming. I think I need some convincing.

Another question. . . What is a minimum number of diapers that you would recommend and what is ideal (reasonable though)?

Thanks!
post #5 of 21
Yes, I think it absolutely still does, BUT mostly if you stick to the more frugal diapering options (prefolds or flats and covers or wool), not if you buy brand-new pockets/fancy fitteds/AIOs.

Here's my math:

You can buy great Green Mountain prefolds for $27/dozen, and at your baby's age, two dozen should be plenty to get you through at least two days. Throw in four Bummis covers at $11/each and you should be all set for just under $100. Shipping will add to this a bit... say you throw in some incidentals like a few Snappis and a wet bag, you should still come in under $150.

Disposable diapers average to about 25 cents each. So after 600 diaper changes, you start saving money using cloth diapers. If you change your baby 8 times a day, it'll take right about two months to start saving money. But after that, diapers are pseudo-free!

Of course, the above doesn't take into account the fact that your baby might eventually need a larger size of diapers, or that you also have to in the cost of water and detergent, and the cost of running the dryer. But even so, you should definitely save plenty of money before your child potty-learns!

The real snag with this stuff, I think, is making sure you don't get sucked into obsessing over The Perfect Diaper System. Cloth diapering can be very economical and eco-friendly... or it can be really expensive and consumery.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK--totally embarassed to ask this. . . Please forgive my total ignorance here. . .

I went to the green mountain site and poked around; how do those prefolds differ from, say, the gerber ones I got as general purpose wipes/burp rags?

Also, how do the prefold/cover compare to the bumgenius diapers I see so many other mamas using?
post #7 of 21
prefolds and covers are great. i have tons of "systems" (what was that a pp said about getting sucked in? LOL)... i keep going back to my gmd prefolds and thirsties. i do have plans to sell off a bunch of stuff this summer, because i just keep going back to prefolds and covers, despite trying the fancy expensive diapers. the gmd prefolds are thicker and much better quality. i think you have to hold one next to a cheapie prefold to see the difference. they are also cut a little different and fit a lot of babies better than the standard size prefolds. the only thing i have to say about prefolds is that there can be a little learning curve. as long as you are expecting it, it's no biggie!
post #8 of 21
we use prefolds and covers it is way worth it. i swiched over when my oldest was only in dipes at nights. i had 2 or 3 dipes for her that was it. how much savings is that! now my 3rd is wearing the dipes that my 2nd wore!
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by ThankfulMama View Post
OK--totally embarassed to ask this. . . Please forgive my total ignorance here. . .

I went to the green mountain site and poked around; how do those prefolds differ from, say, the gerber ones I got as general purpose wipes/burp rags?

Also, how do the prefold/cover compare to the bumgenius diapers I see so many other mamas using?
Don't worry! I remember being totally confused by the gazillion options when I started trying to figure out what to buy. But it's not that complicated, and CDing nerds like us are happy to drone on about it endlessly, haha:

Think of diapering systems as two components: the absorbent part and the waterproof part. The part your baby pees in, and the part that keeps the pee off the couch.

For the absorbent part, you basically have the option of diapers you wrap around the baby yourself: flats (just a big piece of cloth) and prefolds (a big piece of cloth that has been folded and stitched into place). You also have fitted diapers, which are diapers that are shaped like a disposable diaper and have elastic at the legs, back, etc, and have closures like Velcro or snaps. Flats, prefolds and fitteds all require separate waterproof covers.

For covers, your options are pretty much PUL (a slick waterproof layer on the inside of cloth, basically), fleece, and wool. There are many permutations. But if you go with something basic like a Bummis cover it's unlikely that you'll be wildly unhappy.

There are other kinds of diapers that organize the absorbent/waterproof part of the system differently. For instance, AIOs ("All In Ones", like BumGenius) have the cover and the absorbent layers all sewn together. They go on like disposables, super easy. Pros of AIO diapers are that they are super easy. If you can use disposables, you can use these. No learning curve. Cons are that they are pretty expensive (say about $18/each) and many people find that they are harder to wash and dry (there are a lot of layers for stink to build up.)

Another kind of diaper is "pocket diapers" (like FuzziBunz) that have the waterproof outer and the feel-dry inner layer sewn together, but no absorbent layers: you stuff those in yourself. Pros are that they're almost as easy as AIOs, you just have to stuff the pocket. And they're easier to wash and dry, in my opinion. Cons are that they're about the same price as AIOs. And you have to stuff the pocket.

Prefolds and covers are not hard, but AIOs are definitely easier. However, financially, I think it's harder to make a diaper like BumGenius pay for itself. Amazon is selling them for $17.95 with free shipping. So say you need a bare minimum of 20 diapers to get through two days and have a few spare while you're washing, you'd spend $359 on diapers alone. You'd have to use those diapers 1436 times before you break even with 25-cent disposables: if you change eight times a day, that's about six months.

So with diapers like BumGenius, you're still likely to save money, just not nearly as much as you probably would with a simpler system like prefolds and covers. Expensive diapers like BumGenius become a better deal the longer you use them and the more children you can use them for.

PS: As a PP said, the Gerber prefolds are very thin (not very absorbent!) and shaped differently (more "rectangular", unlikely to fit well on a baby) than Green Mountain-type prefolds.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 


I really appreciate all of the info you all are giving me. Thanks again.

OK, so now I am using Huggies pure and natural, so thats about .39/.40 cents per diaper so I could see results sooner than the .25 average.

Now, what about bulk? Which are less bulky (prefolds with covers or the AIO/pocket)?

Would it be worthwhile to buy one of each (prefold with cover and AIO/pocket) to give it a try before deciding or is it something that you can't really get a feel for unless you have several?

Also, if I take her to grandmas or aunties house, could I "prestuff" a prefold system (to make it quick like a disposable) or do I need to teach them? I was CD as a baby so I think my mom could figure this out with a bit of refresher(???).

And, with prefolds, do you need the snappis I read about on the green mountain site? (and are they sharp?)
post #11 of 21
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Now, what about bulk? Which are less bulky (prefolds with covers or the AIO/pocket)?
Probably an AIO/pocket. I find that of the diapers we use, a flat with a wool cover is trimmest (you can fold and Snappi them really trim and snug), then a pocket diaper, then a fitted with a wool cover, and then a prefold with a PUL cover.

Our pockets fit quite a bit like a disposable. They fit under his regular pants, which is not necessarily the case for his prefolds.

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Would it be worthwhile to buy one of each (prefold with cover and AIO/pocket) to give it a try before deciding or is it something that you can't really get a feel for unless you have several?
Absolutely, and that's a great way to approach it! You can even buy diapers second-hand - try the trading post here or on DiaperSwappers.

I think you'll probably know very quickly what works best for you and your baby, so no need to buy dozens at once.

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Also, if I take her to grandmas or aunties house, could I "prestuff" a prefold system (to make it quick like a disposable) or do I need to teach them? I was CD as a baby so I think my mom could figure this out with a bit of refresher(???).
That's a good question! You can't really prestuff covers with prefolds (well, you can tri-fold them and just lay them in, but that doesn't work as well with older/mobile babies, plus you'd need as many covers as you had diaper changes, whereas normally you can just reuse the same cover.) - so most people find that their care providers prefer something like AIOs or pockets for ease of use.

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And, with prefolds, do you need the snappis I read about on the green mountain site? (and are they sharp?)
Yes, unless you just lay them in the cover, you'd need a Snappi (or pins). A Snappi is basically like the little grabber thing that comes with an Ace bandage, if you can visualize that - it has little hooks at the end that grab onto the diaper fabric.
post #12 of 21
You have gotton some really good advice so far.

Main thing don't get sucked into or suckkered into buying an expensive diapering system.

Since you are staying home you can start slowly. Buy just two or four diapers at first. Use them every day and wash every day maybe twice a day. Take the money you are saving on trashies and put it towards a few more prefolds and maybe another cover. Go slowly and only spend the money you are not spending on the throw away diapers. That way each cloth item you buy is already accounted for in your budget.

Stay away from ebay for diapers. Try craigslist and diaperswappers for used diapers. Be carefull of diaperswappers the consumerist culture is persuvasive there and so is the temptation to overspend.

I started cloth diapering my 4th child, a 3 year old, at night because I did not want to buy one more pullup. It was worth it he countinued to wet the bed until age 6. So the three night diapers I made him were well worth the money.

Oh and for babysitters.

Just don't give any other options and they will use what you provide. It is simple because it is ready to go and in the diaper bag. Treat it as no big deal and they will comply.
post #13 of 21
I think that switching to cloth probably makes the most sense after the newborn phase, at around 4 months old. The newborn and small sizes get very little use, comparatively.

For about $125, you could likely get all the diapers and covers you need until potty training. (less if you want to shop used, more if you want something fancy.)
post #14 of 21
I made my daughter's cloth diapers from old clothes & towels on a $25 toy sewing machine. I used the super cheap gerber plastic pants. I sewed velcro to bits of elastic (ripped from an old shirt) to make belts which held the diaper on. 40 diapers, 2 belts, 6 covers- total cost, including sewing machine, $40. Diapering your baby in rags is practically free.
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK, this is great. . .

So, what about the cloth-eez prefold-fitted I saw on that site? What are the benefits of this style?
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by ThankfulMama View Post
OK, this is great. . .

So, what about the cloth-eez prefold-fitted I saw on that site? What are the benefits of this style?
fitted with a cover is a good system.

No stink build up and washes well.

But you can make a fitted for alot less. Prefolds or flats are cheaper and work just as well. If you wanted to get just a few fitteds to try them but a whole stash of fitteds purchased is going to get expensive. Just a little sewing nack and some recycled items and you could sew your own budget friendly fitteds and wool covers.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Pat899 View Post
fitted with a cover is a good system.

No stink build up and washes well.
Is that as compared to a pocket?
And then about the stink--do you have to buy the special products I've seen to get stink out? and is this a problem only with pockets or all cloth?
post #18 of 21
My theory on stink: diapers with either a ton of layers (some fitteds) or synthetic fibers (pockets) or both (AIOs) CAN (depending on lots of stuff like how hard your water is, etc) develop stink. IMO, it's just because bacteria build up in the diaper. I think the answer is an occasional wash with a quarter-cup of bleach to kill the bacteria - or to decide to diaper with natural fibers only.

With synthetics, some people - but not nearly all - find that they have to use special detergent (stuff without optical brighteners, for instance, which can cause the synthetic liner to repel water). But many people just wash with whatever detergent they use normally and do fine.

The benefit of the prefold-fitted you mentioned is that fitteds are really easy to use (no folding, go on basically like a disposable), and because they're made of a prefold, they wash like a prefold: fabulously! The possible downsides are that they're much more expensive than an actual prefold, and require a cover.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by averlee View Post
I made my daughter's cloth diapers from old clothes & towels on a $25 toy sewing machine. I used the super cheap gerber plastic pants. I sewed velcro to bits of elastic (ripped from an old shirt) to make belts which held the diaper on. 40 diapers, 2 belts, 6 covers- total cost, including sewing machine, $40. Diapering your baby in rags is practically free.

I love your style, mama. That's so wonderful.
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK thanks!

I plan to go buy a prefold and cover soon to try it out, along with a pocket diaper as well. Are the cloth-eez MUCH better than say another brand (my local diapering store sells something else, but I cannot remember the brand). Would I be able to get an accurate idea of how a prefold and cover works if I buy one of these? I think they had colored thread on the edges like the gmd ones, if that makes a difference. They also have thirsties and bummis covers.
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