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more feedings during the day will lead to better sleep at night?

post #1 of 19
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A nurse from DS's ped's office tells me this and so we try to stick with it and have seen no progress. He nurses every 1.5 to 2 hours during the day, goes down around 9:30pm or so at night, sleeps for 3 to 4 hours and then is up every 2 hours to eat.

Am I not nursing long enough during the day? He nurses for about 20 to 30 minutes each time and then dozes off.

Also, after he does doze off in my arms, I burp him, lay him down in his bed and not even 2 mintues later, he starts fussing again. Is it that he's trying to fight sleep again? Most of the time, yes, but other times, he needs to burp again.... A crazy and unpredictable cycle this is turning in to.....
post #2 of 19
Sorry but i personally don't think it makes any difference my lo's all fed loads during the day anything from every 30-60 mins at one point but then still would wake every hour during the night.
post #3 of 19
Ditto the above post. DD is nursing constantly throughout the day (at least every 2 hours, sometimes more often) and eats solids - she still wakes up to nurse at night every 3 hours or so. Sometimes she up because of teething. Sometimes it's a growth spurt. Sometimes she's working on a new skill and it disturbs her sleep (crawling was a big one). Sometimes she's thirsty. For her, I don't actually believe it's related to hunger very often at all, it's almost always something else.
post #4 of 19
If you've got a bad (parent perspective) sleeper, I don't think there's anything you can do about it.
post #5 of 19
My DD was like that-that was her schedule. Honestly it seems the more they nurse, the MORE they nurse, at least IME.

It sounds like wearing him might help with the nap aspect, or swaddling. My DS would(what am I saying) he still only naps in my arms or on my body.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by Norasmomma View Post
My DD was like that-that was her schedule. Honestly it seems the more they nurse, the MORE they nurse, at least IME.
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I agree. IME, the night time nursing frequency indicates how the following day will go. The more frequent night nursings, the more frequent nursing the following day and vice versa. It's not logical, but just what I've noticed.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by busymama77 View Post
A nurse from DS's ped's office tells me this and so we try to stick with it and have seen no progress. He nurses every 1.5 to 2 hours during the day, goes down around 9:30pm or so at night, sleeps for 3 to 4 hours and then is up every 2 hours to eat. .
your baby is a month old? this sounds like great sleeping to me. we didn't get a 4 hour stretch out of dd until she was 3 months old. and this is still what our average night is like.
post #8 of 19
The very 2 hour thing in the day worked for us, but maybe it's coincidence and she's just a good sleeper? My baby does the fussing when put down thing and then I'm feeding, burping, laying down, feeding burping laying down, on and on. We just got a pacifier and sometimes it turns out that's what she wants.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by busymama77 View Post
A nurse from DS's ped's office tells me this and so we try to stick with it and have seen no progress. He nurses every 1.5 to 2 hours during the day, goes down around 9:30pm or so at night, sleeps for 3 to 4 hours and then is up every 2 hours to eat.

Am I not nursing long enough during the day? He nurses for about 20 to 30 minutes each time and then dozes off.

Also, after he does doze off in my arms, I burp him, lay him down in his bed and not even 2 mintues later, he starts fussing again. Is it that he's trying to fight sleep again? Most of the time, yes, but other times, he needs to burp again.... A crazy and unpredictable cycle this is turning in to.....
At about a month Emily went from sleeping 5 and 6 hour stretches with no sleep aids, to waking and restlessness...her ears finally unclogged and she could hear...EVERYTHING. Every little beep and buzz. She woke constantly. She also began really being mobile in her sleep, her arms flailing into her face and then her little fingers grabbing at her face...needless to say this was disruptive.

That was when we introduced the swaddle and the white noise. Now she is back to 4 hr nurs to sleep 5-6 hours nurse to sleep 3-4 hours, up for the day.

I do think block feeding helps. It helped ds through his sleep regressions later on (but FTR one month old don't STTN as a general rule -- 5 hours is AWESOME for a newborn)...but here was a little trick I did on the feeding before bed when DS was a little older and able to sleep 8-10 hours. I nursed him on one side for 25-30 minutes, while pumping the other side, then switched for another 5 minutes on the side I was pumping for an extra dose of hind milk.

He has always slept longer and more soundly with a full tummy of nutritious food.

But this is just my experience.
post #10 of 19
your baby is 5 weeks old, you baby is sleeping great at night, my baby has the same birthday as yours and I'd love a 3-4 stretch at night! Right now we are every 1.5 to 2 hours day and night with the odd 3 hour stretch, certainly not every night, Most nights 2.5 hours is the longest.

With my other babies, the first sleep of the night was the longest, then they'd get up every 2 hours until morning, the first sleep got longer starting around 6 weeks, and slowly increased with time.
post #11 of 19
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If you've got a bad (parent perspective) sleeper, I don't think there's anything you can do about it.
See, I don't think he's a bad sleeper, per se, it's just preparing him and calming him down. I don't think he's learned to self soothe just yet whereas my ODS did at this point.

We did get a 6 hour stretch out of him Thursday night and I was shocked. I felt SOOOO rested, though. It was nice. But then the next night, he was back to every 2 hours....

It'll all work itself out, I'm sure. I've just got two hungry boys that love to eat, doze off and then eat again!
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by busymama77 View Post
A nurse from DS's ped's office tells me this and so we try to stick with it and have seen no progress. He nurses every 1.5 to 2 hours during the day, goes down around 9:30pm or so at night, sleeps for 3 to 4 hours and then is up every 2 hours to eat.
But it sounds like he *is* sleeping "better" during the night than during the day. He does his longest stretch during the night. At 5 weeks of age they still need to eat often, he sounds "ahead of the curve" for night sleeping with 3-4 hours at this point (remember, "sleeping through the night" is defined as only 5 straight hours!).
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by busymama77 View Post
See, I don't think he's a bad sleeper, per se, it's just preparing him and calming him down. I don't think he's learned to self soothe just yet whereas my ODS did at this point.

We did get a 6 hour stretch out of him Thursday night and I was shocked. I felt SOOOO rested, though. It was nice. But then the next night, he was back to every 2 hours....

It'll all work itself out, I'm sure. I've just got two hungry boys that love to eat, doze off and then eat again!
self soothe at a month old? Thats AMAZING.

All sarcasm aside, I have one fantastic sleeper and one crappy sleeper. The crappy sleeper is getting better, about 85% there. But he still has regressions. I tried everything you could think of from day one, including more intake during the day. I have yet to find what WORKS for him. Quite honestly, its up to HIM.
post #14 of 19
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(remember, "sleeping through the night" is defined as only 5 straight hours!).
Really?! By whom?

I wouldn't be inclined to call it STTN unless it was at least 8 hours.

I'm stingy.
post #15 of 19
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Really?! By whom?

I wouldn't be inclined to call it STTN unless it was at least 8 hours.

I'm stingy.
yeah me too lol
post #16 of 19
i many cases, milk quantity and quality is higher at night. babies were meant to feed through the night, its normal and to be expected. are you co-sleeping at night?
post #17 of 19
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[QUOTE=blessedwithboys;15284523]i many cases, milk quantity and quality is higher at night. babies were meant to feed through the night, its normal and to be expected. are you co-sleeping at night?[/OTE]

No, I'm not but am thinking that maybe we should start doing this. Even DH who has been against co-sleeping for quite some time is starting to think it's a good idea. I'm wondering if this will help at all...... Maybe I'll give it a try tonight since DH is out of town.
post #18 of 19
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But it sounds like he *is* sleeping "better" during the night than during the day. He does his longest stretch during the night. At 5 weeks of age they still need to eat often, he sounds "ahead of the curve" for night sleeping with 3-4 hours at this point (remember, "sleeping through the night" is defined as only 5 straight hours!).
The 3-4 hours didn't last for too long and that was only the first stretch of his nightly 'routine'. Now, he's down around 9:30 and up every 2 hours - sometimes 1.5 hours. At around 4:30/5am - he just WON'T go back to sleep regardless if he's fed, changed, swaddled, rocked.... anything.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by TiredX2 View Post
But it sounds like he *is* sleeping "better" during the night than during the day. He does his longest stretch during the night. At 5 weeks of age they still need to eat often, he sounds "ahead of the curve" for night sleeping with 3-4 hours at this point (remember, "sleeping through the night" is defined as only 5 straight hours!).
Also, yesterday - he sleep awesome during the day. Took a one hour nap, woke up, nursed, fell back a sleep for another hour and a half, nursed again, fell back a sleep until around 6:30, nursed again off and on and then the witching hour began and that's when all hell broke loose and took a while to calm him down. I guess this will be our 'routine' for a while??
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