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Your whys or why nots of fostering?

post #1 of 16
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A good friend was placed with their first fc yesterday.

As you may know we are learning and seeking info on adoption (mainly international), but it got me to thinking... foster to adopt... why not?

I am cautious about a few aspects of it... having to do visitations, it seems like you are having to do others bidding at times (my parents kin/foster for a time and they didn't like all the requests and requirements), fears, and the uncertainty of it. I think this is a pretty normal reaction to pfp's.

But, I was wondering for some of you why have you chosen to go that route... what compelled you that that was what was right for you family?

And for those of you that haven't or maybe walked away from it, why?

I really want this to be a "happy" thread... we all know we've gone the way we have because that is what is good and "right" for us and our family. So, please just share... good and bads please. Thanks!
post #2 of 16
We are in the process of adopting from foster care, but not foster-to-adopt. Although I'm sure a lot of kids in our province get adopted by their current foster parents, there isn't an actual foster-to-adopt program, per se. The child(ren) that we will be placed with (God willing) will have already been through the TPR process. We may be encouraged to maintain contact with extended family, if appropriate, but nothing required.

I do feel like I have straight foster care in my heart, but don't think it is the right time in our family. It will be something DF and I will definitely consider again once my DD, my future adopted kids, and any future bio kids are older.

We decided to go the adopt-from-foster route for a number of reasons after we decided on adoption. Firstly, we have been blessed with our DD and can (again, God willing) have future biological children. Because of this we didn't feel it was appropriate to try for a newborn adoption when there are so many other couples out there who struggle with infertility who are waiting for a healthy newborn. No judgment towards couples with bio kids who go this route, but it just wasn't the right path for us.

I have mixed feelings about international adoption, but we never really looked into further because, quite frankly, we can't afford it.

Once we started looking into adopting waiting kids from the province, it all just felt very right. There are children looking for families right in our own backyard. We are fine with adopting older children, and feel very drawn towards a sibling group. And the supports our province offers are really great - the only out-of pocket cost we will have for our adoption is $15 for our police clearance. The training, homestudy, and legal fees are all picked up by the province. Post-adoption support funding is the same as the foster care rates and follow the child until they are 18 even if we move. The province will pay for a very generous amount of respite care and counselling services after finalization as well.

I know that doesn't really answer your question because our program is different than foster-to-adopt, but that is how we came to our decision.
post #3 of 16
We chose adoption because neither of us are interested in fertility treatment. I also have always wanted to adopt.

We chose foster-to-adopt because we felt that it was the most ethical option available to us. We don't feel comfortable exchanging money for a child. We also wanted to stay local. An international adoption doesn't suit us.

No judgment against parents who don't do foster-to-adopt, though. Fostering is very emotionally challenging and comes with it's own ethical problems too. If we go another route in the future, we will choose an open adoption that's as local as possible.
post #4 of 16
We initially hoped to adopt internationally, and although we qualified for lots of programs, the logistics never seemed to match up: We felt drawn to a country, then it closed. We planned to adopt an older sibling group, then were surprised by our bio daughter and decided to adopt within birth order, which meant a much younger child than we'd planned. Foster/adoption was always out of the question, because I didn't think I could handle "giving a child back." But I've completely changed perspective on this after really listening to some foster parents.

In the end, for us it was a matter of what felt the most right, and which ethical issues we were able to overlook. Pretty much every sort of adoption is in some way problematic, and I think it's just down to the individual, and what s/he ultimately feels comfortable with. For us, right now, that's fostering. But at some point--particularly because we haven't had a placement yet--it might be different.
post #5 of 16
We came into fostering semi-accidently (we knew we wanted to foster eventually, but, other plans were made...). We have never really looked back, even at times when we acted like we would. It's that simple.
  • Has it been hard at times? Yes. Incredibly. Unspeakably.
  • Has it been a roller coaster at times? Most definitely.
  • Have we had the schedules and interests of other adults to manage on top of our own and the kid's? At times, absolutely.
  • Have we been known to say, after a child has gone home, or after one of our adoptions, that we would never choose the fostering experience again? Indeed. There have been dark hours.

But kids go through this every single day. They deserve adults willing to ride the 'coaster with them. They deserve adults willing to risk hurt just as they are forced to experience it. And more than that, we have loved our kids -- every one -- and they "loved" us (most of the time). It's been a great experience, overall, and I have two beautiful children who are here to stay...two kids who I couldn't imagine having ever lived without. They are AMAZING!
post #6 of 16
I am just starting this process. We find out next wk if it is doable for us due to our small house.
For us, everything just led up to this. We wanted to foster a few years ago but I got pregnant for my son. We figured in years to come we would revisit the idea. I was talking to a local foster parent and she made us aware that it probably is doable in our smaller house. I called.
Now we are leaning to foster-to-adopt because that is what is in our hearts.
We have felt drawn to children with special needs so it looks like if we can, we will be foster-to-adopting a child with special needs. Our dream would be to one day build a barrier free house and continue to adopt children with special needs.
post #7 of 16
The simple answer, for me, is that its the only type of adoption i can afford.

That being said...i was never really interested in the "healthy newborn" type of adoption...i have at times fantasized about adopting an international waiting child, and i've always dreamed of adopting from Ethiopia or another African country. But realistically adopting from foster care made the most sense, its local, its not that hard to qualify, they welcome single parents. Plus, the types of kids typically available was just the type of child i was looking for at the time (older, lots of boys available, emotional special needs ok with me, any race, etc)....

I did wait for quite awhile with another agency who did not seem to want to place a child with me, but when i got my foster license, i got a placement right away and he is now my adopted son. I fostered a little 1 yr old girl who was reunified with relatives after two months (which was a good thing), and then was placed with my current fs in july. Rights were terminated in March and i expect to finalize his adoption this year. We are doing pre-placement visitation with his 8 yr old sister right now, and she will move in with me in june after school is out, i will adopt her too. So, for me, its worked out really well.

Some of the drawbacks would be just mostly dealing with the system. It can be long and tedious. My friend is having major issues right now just getting her homestudy finished even though they are already doing visits with their new kids. And fostering when you dont know if you can keep the kids is hard too....every time i look at my new daughter, i see her mother's face (they look exactly alike) which is heartbreaking because then i think of her mother and her loss. I'm glad i got to know the parents so i could tell my kids about them as they grow older, but its also hard because with my other son whose mother i never met, he feels just like "mine" and no one else's, but these other two look so much like their parents and had a close relationship with them, i sometimes feel like they will always be there in the background. Which isnt a bad thing, but it is different.
post #8 of 16
DH and I always agreed that we would have 3 bio children(after we knew we could have bio children) then adopt at least one child. (I fell in love w/ the idea of adoption as a teen after seeing a large family that was a mix of bio and adopt.) Our reason for going the foster care route is similar to previous posts. We already had bio children, so we didn't feel the need to adopt a newborn. We researched IA for a long time, but when it came down to it, we just couldn't afford it. As we got more and more comfortable with the idea of older child/sibling adoption, the logical choice seemed to be adoption through foster care. That has morphed into us deciding to become straight foster parents and seeing where life takes us. If we adopt, we adopt. For now, our goal is just to be the best foster parents we can be and take it one day at a time. (We had our last home visit today and may FINALLY have our license this time next month!)

I loved reading this in a previous post, and it's pretty much how we see the situation.
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But kids go through this every single day. They deserve adults willing to ride the 'coaster with them. They deserve adults willing to risk hurt just as they are forced to experience it.
post #9 of 16
We chose not to foster adopt, and we chose international adoption instead. While still gathering information, someone on this board (I think a foster mom) said that though foster-adoption doesn't have the financial costs associated with international adoption, the amount you "pay" emotionally is just as high or higher. The foster parents I met in our adoption courses said the same thing. It's cheaper and more expensive, all at the same time.

We feel we've carried a pretty heavy emotional load already (with the challenges and losses in our family), and we didn't feel able to "pay" for adoption that way.
post #10 of 16
I've been fostering for almost four years. I went in planning to foster only. I never even considered adopting. I'm single and never thought it was possible. But, I adopted my son two years ago and will be adopting my foster daughter this summer. I've had the smoothest fostering journey possible. I'm mom to the best kids on the planet. We've got an open adoption with my son's birth family (mother, grandmother, and sisters (who were adopted by other families.)

My license expires in August. I hadn't planned on renewing but with the new adoption tax credit being refundable, I might have money to get a bigger car. Mine only holds my two kids right now. But, I've got a HUGE baby urge these days.
post #11 of 16
Let me caveat my response: I live in a state where the foster care system has two separate programs:

* Foster care: children with a goal of reunification (to the parents or a relative) are placed in foster homes. If the goal happens to fall through and the child has no other placement available for permanency--the foster parents are considered for adoptive parents. Often, newer foster parents are mistakenly told that a foster placement "has no chance" of being reunited because the parents "couldn't possibly get it together". But the goal IS reunification and this causes a LOT of problems because obviously the state never has a clue whether a parent will decide to get their act together. So if you are considering this route, I will say that you should be keenly aware of the goal. My state is also a "concurrent planning" state--which means that every child in foster care has a "plan A" (reunification) and "plan B" (what happens if they can't be reunified--often adoption, usually by the foster parents). Some foster parents here don't realize that ALL children have a concurrent plan because that's our state rules--so they believe that if the child's plan B is adoption by the foster family, that means it's likely to go that route when in fact MOST kids plan B is adoption by the foster family (unless a previously undiscovered relative shows up).

* Adoption unit: children whose goal is adoption are placed from the adoptive unit. Their legal statuses differ and with those statuses comes SOME level of risk that the adoption won't complete. If a child is placed from the adoptive unit has already gone through TPR is certainly lower risk than a child who has yet to complete TPR... things like that. Because there is a 6-month live-in requirement, yes--these children ARE technically foster children until adoption is finalized... but it is not "fost-adopt". These are adoptive placements with an adoption contract signed when they walk through the door--which only happens after a full disclosure of their history and your approval of the placement after reviewing that (something that doesn't happen with foster care in most states).

We went into straight fostering because we had a bio son and couldn't have more; but because we had a bio--we were worried about being able to love a non-bio child as much. Fostering was a way for us to figure this out before adopting because the kids went home. Of course, it proved not to be a problem.

The process to license for foster care was the same as for adoption in our state--so we did both. After all, we knew it would be a good, long wait for an adoptive placement from the state and that would give us time to foster and really know if we would accept an adoptive placement (assuming one came to us).

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Originally Posted by RedOakMomma View Post
While still gathering information, someone on this board (I think a foster mom) said that though foster-adoption doesn't have the financial costs associated with international adoption, the amount you "pay" emotionally is just as high or higher. The foster parents I met in our adoption courses said the same thing. It's cheaper and more expensive, all at the same time.


There's no question that you pay one way or another in the end. And to be honest, I know at LEAST 6 families that have adopted internationally and their children often suffer similar issues (health, learning, behavior, whatever) as children adopted from foster care--in addition to being a different race from their adoptive families. Plus, the timeline from start to finish was sometimes well over a year--sometimes multiple years.

So for us, we didn't really see the point in spending thousands of dollars plus time and travel (the travel being a bigger problem for our bio son) for a child we could just as well adopt out of our foster care system.

When I see what my friends going through international foster care go through, I'm not sure I see a LOT of difference. There is absolutely less interference in their day-to-day lives than through fostering although I found that with my adoptive placement through the state--it really wasn't all that different (mind you, adoptive placements usually have no more visitation--so it's just the monthly check in to see how the placement is progressing and that is the same as with my friends that adopt both int'l and private domestic).

I will say this: we DID at one point decide NOT to adopt out of foster care. We had been involved in a message board thread some time back of foster parents who had adopted and many of them noted the difficulties that were passed down from parent to child through their physical makeup... be it emotional processing or illness... whatever. The thing that really hit us was that there were a few that noted that if not for having already raised a few bio children, they'd have thought it was something they were doing. But the fact that they'd already raised children successfully and then seeing some of the more serious issues their adoptive children faced (even those placed from birth) made them feel that there were things that came with those children--predispositions to issues or issues themselves.

We started to really consider that there was a difference between a parent that felt the need to give up their child because they wanted what was best for them, and the parents who were unable to make that decision--or were so oblivious to the lack of care being given to their children that they ultimately lost their legal right to parent. And for us, our bio child was already special needs. We didn't know if we could handle those things. At the time, we truly didn't know where our son's issues would land. He carried an autism spectrum diagnosis and the two other boys we knew with the same issues wound up as inpatients in their early teens--so we were truly concerned.

We adopted our daughter because she WAS freely given up. Her mom was here illegally and actually had a family that wanted to adopt her baby, but ultimately she felt they lived too close and she wouldn't be able to handle seeing the baby after parting with her. Since the state has so many cases in that hospital that they have a CPS nursery, she told the hospital that they could handle finding a family for her. She really wanted nothing to do with it (not out of anger, just out of difficulty). CPS turned to us.

We really felt it was kind of divine intervention that the state could come to us with a baby that was freely given up--which really relieved us of our concerns about adopting from the state. We know darn well that she COULD have other issues. We're not that naive. But the stronger underlying issue of having a parent with the mental capacity and logic that drove her to give her child a better life really made us feel like it was meant to be. In fact, we didn't even WANT a newborn because at that point, our son was almost 5yo and it was a huge age gap. But we thought she was brought to us for a reason.

She is now 18mo and our son is 6yo. Our son is doing better than the children whose paths we worried he would follow (although he still has some lingering problems). And our daughter is full of love and happiness that we missed out on during our son's infancy because of his profound developmental problems. And they love one another tremendously--which is a HUGE blessing. In the end, we think the age gap is a gift: each child is in a very obviously different phase of their lives and it eliminates a lot of potential for competition in many ways.

We feel strongly about continuing to foster because the children caught in that system need good families. It was so much more rewarding to us than we ever imagined. But we also know we need to wait until our kids are a little older (our ad had a hard time with a short-term foster placement in Dec that made it clear that she's not really ready for that).

But when we go back to it, we will be straight foster. We feel complete.
post #12 of 16
We inquired into it, and were essentially told that they don't place transracially if there's a chance of adoption happening. That's not legal, btw. There are almost never caucasian children who do not have very significant physical or psychological issues, or who are younger than teenagers in this county, as we were told by the county agency.

I wasn't interested in doing fostering without a decent chance of a foster to adopt placement.
post #13 of 16
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We inquired into it, and were essentially told that they don't place transracially if there's a chance of adoption happening. That's not legal, btw.
Wow, thats so illegal. Though i shouldnt be surprised, i had a social worker totally sabotage my efforts to adopt waiting kids, and i believe it was due to her belief that a white woman should not adopt black boys. Luckily my new agency had no issues with it, and i was able to adopt my baby who is AA, and will be adopting two more AA kids this year.
post #14 of 16
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We came into fostering semi-accidently (we knew we wanted to foster eventually, but, other plans were made...). We have never really looked back, even at times when we acted like we would. It's that simple.
  • Has it been hard at times? Yes. Incredibly. Unspeakably.
  • Has it been a roller coaster at times? Most definitely.
  • Have we had the schedules and interests of other adults to manage on top of our own and the kid's? At times, absolutely.
  • Have we been known to say, after a child has gone home, or after one of our adoptions, that we would never choose the fostering experience again? Indeed. There have been dark hours.

But kids go through this every single day. They deserve adults willing to ride the 'coaster with them. They deserve adults willing to risk hurt just as they are forced to experience it. And more than that, we have loved our kids -- every one -- and they "loved" us (most of the time). It's been a great experience, overall, and I have two beautiful children who are here to stay...two kids who I couldn't imagine having ever lived without. They are AMAZING!
This this this! This isn't my experience yet because I'm not a foster parent yet but it's the experience I'm expecting to have when I do it, and I'm sure I will. I just think the kids who are already here, in this country, in our states/towns/regions, deserve this. They didn't choose the parents who couldn't parent them, and even though I'm not "obligated" to step in, I think it's the just, best thing to do.

And... having worked in child welfare for a looooong time, I've come to know so many of these kids, and I grow more and more committed to fostering (with possibility of adopting) every year. It will be tough I know - tougher than raising my bio kid (or kids by then possibly) in terms of the things that are hard to prepare for (like transition and finding out the behavioral impacts of what they've endured). But I look forward to it because I've met so many amazing, deserving kids!

By the way, for those saying they don't want to foster-to-adopt because of the uncertainty re: whether the adoption will ever happen, I have to say that in my experience, if you KNOW that what you want out of the situation at the end of the day is to adopt, you should simply find out what your state's procedures are for releasing foster kids to adoption are after TPRs are done. I think fostering-to-adopt is tricky territory when the case plan goal is still reunification and the foster parent's goal is adoption. A caseplan goal of reunification means that it should be the goal of both the caseworker AND the foster parents to help the kids and bio family work through the adult's issues and stay together, and it's hard to truly support that goal if you're hoping it won't really work and the child will stay with you.

I plan to foster-to-adopt because I really believe it's in the best interest of the child and the bio family to stay together IF and ONLY IF the bio family can truly pull it together to provide a safe, stable, loving home. If that can happen, even if the foster child feels like part of my family, I'll support them going home and help however I can for that to be a smooth transition.

Yes kids get returned to less than safe/stable/loving homes all the time. But I live in a state where foster parents work with the bio parents as well as the kids so I feel like a lot more people will know how the family is really doing. Hopefully I'll not be in that situation, and if I really think a child will not be ok going home, I'll tell everyone involved why I think that.

And I consider foster to adopt a win win for the child because hopefully either way they'll get a loving stable home, and I'm happy if it's my home but even happier if it's the bio parents.

But I TOTALLY understand not being up for that uncertainty for those of you who aren't and that's why I suggest you find out how to just be an adoptive parent to a child where Parental Rights are already Terminiated if you know you want to adopt. That way, at least you're dealing with a child who has been legally cleared for adoption, and your role is not conflicted at all.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by RedOakMomma View Post
, someone on this board (I think a foster mom) said that though foster-adoption doesn't have the financial costs associated with international adoption, the amount you "pay" emotionally is just as high or higher. The foster parents I met in our adoption courses said the same thing. It's cheaper and more expensive, all at the same time.

We feel we've carried a pretty heavy emotional load already (with the challenges and losses in our family), and we didn't feel able to "pay" for adoption that way.
This is mainly why we chose not to foster-adopt.

We had been through a lot leading up to our decision to adopt. We felt like we needed to take the path that seemed the least emotionally taxing and the most straight forward (haha- as straightforward as anything can be in adoption!). Given what we had gone through, we felt it would also be too traumatic for our son to have someone come into our home as a part of the family and then potentially leave again.

Also, our son was fairly young when we started this process. We did not want to adopt out of birth order, and so to hope for a child younger than him made the odds of a child being placed with us pretty slim.

We also wanted to be able to have a greater chance of having some sort of contact with the birthmom or birthparents.

Finally, and this is purely selfish, both DH and I really love little babies and really didn't want to miss out on that stage with our child.
post #16 of 16
We are fostering to adopt, partly because in our state you cannot go through the state at all for adoption only. The other reason, is because we would like to be able to help children, even if it is for a short time.

We knw full well that it will not be easy to love a child and then let them go, but it is a risk and a challenge that we are willing to take. And if it comes to be that the child we are fostering comes up for adoption, then we are willing and prepared to persue that, if we feel it is the best thing for our family.
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