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post #1 of 12
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Connor's OT assessment is in...and I have to admit to not being nearly as well-read in this area! I also admit to not being as in-tune with this area of his development, and I'm working on getting over a bias/paradigm about the importance of fine motor as a whole...I'm much more focused on gross motor, speech, and social development to be honest! BUT...these results surprised me (how low they are) so I need to learn! Here's what his assessment said:

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Connor has full range of motion in his upper extremities. Formal assessment of muscle strength was not performed due to Connor’s age; however, through observations made during assessment (i.e. movement patterns, force exerted), he exhibits low muscle tone and low-average strength as compared to same-age peers.

Connor’s fine motor skills were evaluated using the PDMS-2. The fine motor portion of the evaluation is divided into 2 subsets, Grasping, which measures a child’s ability to use his hands, and Visual-Motor Integration, which measures visual perceptual skills. The results of these subtests are as follows:

SubtestRaw ScoreStd Score% RankAge =Rating
Grasping416915mosBelow Average
Visual-Motor10371629mosBelow Average

Connor’s Fine Motor Quotient (FMQ), which is a numeric representation of the overall performance on the subtests, was 79, which is a percentile rank of 8 and a rating of Poor.

Successful skills: Stringing 4 beads, imitating vertical and horizontal strokes, snipping with scissors, stacking 8-9 cubes to build a tower.

Challenging skills: Building train, bridge, and wall with blocks from a model, copying a circle, grasping marker or crayon with thumb and first finger toward paper or between thumb and index finger.

During the assessment, Connor was cooperative. He tended to move quickly through test items and often needed to be redirected to attend to task. He used his right hand to cut, color, draw, and stack cubes. When holding writing utensils, he used either a fisted grasp with thumb up and litter finger toward the paper, or a transdigital grasp with all fingers along the shaft of the crayon/marker. He was able to pick up small items with pad of index finger opposed to pad of thumb, but also pulled in his middle and ring fingers at times. He was also noted to use a raking grasp to pick up small pellets several times. When presented with scissors, he needed assistance to position his fingers and struggled to open and close them. When presented with loop scissors (self-opening scissors) he was able to snip the paper. When blocks were presented for copying block designs, he was able to stack the cubes but he was unable to copy and of the 3 block designs that were presented. The OT tried several times to help him understand what he needed to do and the sign language interpreter also tried to communicate this to him. His tendency was to continue to stack the blocks. When the train design was presented (4 cubes in a row with 1 on top at the front) he stacked 2 cubes in a row and then stacked 3 cubes on top. He imitated the OT by pushing the design as if it were a train, but did not fix the design to match the model.

Connor was compliant during the evaluation and demonstrated the ability to follow directions for familiar activities. As seen in the result of the PDMS-2, his fine motor skills are delayed relative to same-age peers at this time. These delays may impact his ability to perform preschool classroom fine motor activities independently.

Connor will benefit from continued exposure to age-appropriate fine motor and preschool classroom activities in order to facilitate fine motor development. Activities to improve core postural and upper extremity strength may also help to improve his overall fine motor development. Connor may benefit from the inclusion of a motor specialist to address areas of concern.

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His IEP now says 80 minutes a month (about 20 minutes a week) of Occupational Therapy. Does that sound reasonable?

He has been diagnosed with Apraxia, are these results common in Apraxia? I fully understand how Apraxia effects his speech, but I'm only now learning how it effects the rest of his body.
post #2 of 12
My daughter had similar delays and had 90 minutes of OT a month via her IEP but she also qualified for one hour of OT/wk via the state's developmental disabilities program. I'm not an OT but IME, IEP-based therapies aren't always where they need to be to produce the best results due to budget and time constraints on the part of the school district and the therapists.

My daughter's ST was similarly setup - she had ST through the school and an additional ST allotment through the state.
post #3 of 12
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Originally Posted by MyTwoAs View Post
My daughter had similar delays and had 90 minutes of OT a month via her IEP but she also qualified for one hour of OT/wk via the state's developmental disabilities program. I'm not an OT but IME, IEP-based therapies aren't always where they need to be to produce the best results due to budget and time constraints on the part of the school district and the therapists.

My daughter's ST was similarly setup - she had ST through the school and an additional ST allotment through the state.
You know, I didn't even think of that. He gets private ST outside of school, but I wonder if he should be getting private OT also.

A friend of mine is a COTA (certified occupational therapist assistant), I'm going to talk to her and have her help me interpret this anyway.
post #4 of 12
DD2 gets 60-90 minutes a month of OT through the schools and her needs are milder than your DS (hers are for sensory issues).

I would also check if it is a group or individual setting...that may make a difference as well. DD2 has 2 large group session and 2 small group sessions a month. No individual-- which my complaint is that the large group is doing small/fine motor stuff she does not need. Rather she needs more audiotory/sensory activities. So essentially she gets 30-45 minutes of 'practical' OT a month.

We also had OT through our insurance (last year) that was GREAT. She did both individual and group sensory OT.

DD2 also gets 60-90 minutes of PT (hypotonic trunk/legs- but fully ambulatory) through the school system and it is individual and she has made MUCH more progress since it is adapted exclusively for her.

Ask for somethings to do at home as well....we do/did a lot of 'therapudic' activities to supplement what they were doing at school (she attends general education PreK) for OT--scripted responses, sensory diet, weighted vests, etc.
post #5 of 12
Oh yes, good point on the at home activities. We have a lot of purposeful play here that mimics the at-home sensory diet and OT plan that the therapist gave us.
post #6 of 12
Didn't Connor just turn 3? I think that's a lot to ask of a three year old. I don't think my gifted/athletic/talented was cutting with scissor at 3.

And I really wonder about the whole patterns with blocks thing. How does anyone really know if he understood that he was supposed to make the exact same design? He's 3. He was playing with blocks. Besides the whole language/hearing/signing issue, I'm stuck on the fact that he's really little.

Back on topic, my DD has fine motor issues and we've always tried to include lots of *fun* fine motor things to do: playing with playdough and the fun factory, making simple crafts, etc. When she was little and learning to use scissors, I let her cut up yarn and then past it to colored paper in fun designs. There are really zillions of ways for preschoolers to work on fine motor skills.
post #7 of 12
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Didn't Connor just turn 3? I think that's a lot to ask of a three year old. I don't think my gifted/athletic/talented was cutting with scissor at 3.

And I really wonder about the whole patterns with blocks thing. How does anyone really know if he understood that he was supposed to make the exact same design? He's 3. He was playing with blocks. Besides the whole language/hearing/signing issue, I'm stuck on the fact that he's really little.

Back on topic, my DD has fine motor issues and we've always tried to include lots of *fun* fine motor things to do: playing with playdough and the fun factory, making simple crafts, etc. When she was little and learning to use scissors, I let her cut up yarn and then past it to colored paper in fun designs. There are really zillions of ways for preschoolers to work on fine motor skills.
Yes, he turned 3 last month. But his score was compared to same-age peers, so evidently this is what is expected of him at this age.

I did talk to the OT about whether she could decipher if this is truly a fine motor issue, or if it's a cognitive issue. Did he just not understand that he was supposed to build the same block structure? But then I think of other 3 year olds I know, and they can understand how to "copy" something. With Ian I could have verbally described it to him, not even shown him a physical example, and he could have done it. Connor does not grasp the concept. So it's very hard to tell if the block examples are a sign of visual-spatial problems, or cognitive immaturity/delay. And the language/signing/hearing complicates the matter even more.

And after reading through this more, it seems like he's really inconsistent. For example, he could string beads, but he didn't use a pincer grasp when picking up objects? That doesn't make sense. Stringing beads is hard to do! Pincer grasp is an infant-level skill. So...maybe it was a test fatigue issue? If stringing the beads was the first skill they tested, and making the train was the last skill they tested...maybe that factors in also?

I just don't know. I DO know that the reason I asked for the eval is because everytime I see him use his hands, *something* looks odd about it to me. The way he works the zipper on his jacket, the way he takes his shoes off, the way he manipulates toys. He DOES it all, but he does it...oddly.

I think, after reading this report several more times, that I'm going to request a PT eval for him too. He was receiving PT services, but was released from PT at age 18 months, with monitoring until age 2. He hasn't had anything since. He isn't delayed, I don't think, in fact gross motor is his strength, but he is definitely hypotonic.
post #8 of 12
He sounds a lot like my Aidan.

Those are almost the exact same things we are working on---fisting the crayons/fork, scissors, etc. From what our OT told me, he is hypotonic and it is more than likely due to his hearing loss. My boy has all over low tone, when he sits he leans back on to something for support, can't squeeze many squeeze bottles---although I got him to figure this out yesterday when I let him play with the water hose with a squeeze nozzle. He is still in EI but only receives 60 mins/month of OT, which sucks. Aidan uses pincer grasp for most things, but soem things he doesn't and it just so happened that he didn't do it for the OT. Good luck with everything!
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by 2boyzmama View Post
I DO know that the reason I asked for the eval is because everytime I see him use his hands, *something* looks odd about it to me. The way he works the zipper on his jacket, the way he takes his shoes off, the way he manipulates toys. He DOES it all, but he does it...oddly.

I think, after reading this report several more times, that I'm going to request a PT eval for him too.
I think you are doing the right things. I don't have any great input, but eval and therapy are good things.

When you describe how he did on the eval, it just doesn't sound that far off. None the less, if he seems to use his hands in odd ways, working on that while he is young is great. And if part of the problem with the eval is that he didn't understand the idea of copying a model, then that is still a concept to work on in therpay.
post #10 of 12
The OT eval seems fairly similiar to ours.

At 3, DD was expected to snip with scissors, use a pincer grasp, copy designs, pegboard, string beads, button a large button, etc.

Even at 4-- she still 'fists' crayons/spoons/paintbrushes sometimes, her OT is not terribly worried since she CAN use the pincer- but muscle fatigue causes her to revert to fisted grip.

They also took in consideration that she was (at the time, she is now) not potty trained and that dropped her 'social skills/self help' scores. Potty training is not a 'written' goal in her IEP, but she does have some self help skills due to her lowered scores (she could not do a zipper, put on her coat, etc).

We also got 'spring-back' scissors (since her low tone made it hard to re-open the scissors), a slant-board (to help with awkward grip/arms when drawing/writing), and oddly enough---making sure her feet were on the floor when writing provided her more 'core' strength and improved her ability to cut/draw/write/etc.

I would also consider the time frame- muscle fatigue. DD2 got 'lower' scores as the test went on due to fatigue and I talked to her evaluators about it. It is noted in her IEP that she has very strong inconsistancies in what she could do (some hard skills she got and some very easy ones she missed) as well- I think it was due to fatigue/attention span of a 3 yr old.

If you were concerned that your DS did not understand the directions, maybe have him 'retest' portions that you think are inaccurate with his aide (for singing) and/or speech therapist in attendance.

Good Luck and I hope you see some improvement soon!
post #11 of 12
You know, Alot of that stuff was like Megan at that age - and I've never really felt her at "behind" in the fine motor skills. Now she is 4 now and can write her name, but that is as much a "learned" skill then one she developed on her own.
I find the comments relating to low tone to be usefull in regards to my son (he is 6) he is WAY WAY WAY behind on his writing skills (Megans letters look better) and he fetuges really quickly. I had mentioned to both the OT and the Pead that I wondered weather it was a tone issue - possible from a birth injury (Alex was without oxygenated "fresh" blood for about 10 minutes prior to birth because of a complete placential abruption) they watched him for a while for Cerebral Palsy but after a year didn't "see" any delays. I am wondering now if it is minor - but big enough to cause issues with writing.
post #12 of 12
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I am wondering now if it is minor - but big enough to cause issues with writing.
Ali (now 13) still has issues with writing, but she doesn't seem to have problems with too many other fine motor things.

She gets reduced written work as part of her 504 and we are really working on typing.

Oddly, she paints really well.
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