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Hmmm. That isn't how it is supposed to be, is it?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ugh, I know, another mother post. I don't think she's evil. In fact, I think she is really down deep a nice person. However she is very judgmental, an alcoholic, emotionally unavailable, total workaholic, on and on. But I know she really loves me.

We have a long history of her not being able to be there for me. I understand and don't expect it any more. If there is a way for her to pay someone to deal with me, she will and she always has. No biggie. I get it.

Around the holidays (that is the only time we see her, even though we live less than 2 miles away) she had been saying that she wanted to take my kids to go see a movie. She never got to it, too busy with work and social commitments, so when the movie came in the mail recently I thought she might like to have a movie night with us and the kids. Big mistake. I called her and asked her that and her reply was "Why on earth would I want to do that?" I backtracked pretty quickly. She went on to say that if my husband and I needed a night out, she would pay for us to get a babysitter. I let her know that wasn't the issue, I was just thinking she might like to hang with us. Again, no biggie. She doesn't have to do something just because I think it might be fun.

Then my dd wanted to have lunch with her as Grandma has been promising for years. My mother is in her office in our city on Fridays so I let my dd call my mom last night and ask her about lunch today. My mother said she already had a previous engagement but said she wasn't sure it was going to happen so she would call dd this morning to let her know. Of course, there was no phone call. I called her cell a couple of times but no answer. I assumed she got busy and just told my dd that it would happen some other time. My mother called this afternoon asking for a favor and I said something about this morning. My mother actually said "I didn't want to have lunch with you guys and I figured you would forget if I ignored it".

This all feels a bit mean spirited but I am really hesitant to call it that. I'm not trying to impose on her, I just feel like my kids barely know her. If I was asking her to watch my kids all the time or hang out with us as a family, I would totally understand it. But she barely ever sees us. We've had dinner a few times on holidays. She has babysat maybe twice in the past year and both times were for under an hour. That's it. She used to say she just didn't like babies and that was why she wasn't involved but mine are 14, 6 and 4 now.

Anyway, what is this? I know there is a ton of backstory that I'm not sharing but does this sound familiar to anybody? Is it just that she isn't interested in family? She calls and we talk on the phone quite a bit so it isn't that she doesn't like me. Or maybe it is? I can't quite figure it out. Is there a book that can help me learn how to deal?
post #2 of 10
She sounds mean. Sorry!!
post #3 of 10
Well, my mom isn't very interested in her grandkids but, unlike yours, she also isn't interested in me or likes me very much either. It would have been nice for her to be a better grandma than she was a mother but she's clearly not motivated to do that. My two girls are her only grandkids but she's always made very minimal effort.

I'm sorry she keeps letting your kids down. It doesn't seem like making the intiative works out well so I might just give that up altogether. ((hugs))
post #4 of 10
Wow, it sounds like she's taking you for granted, big time. She has shown you, with her behavior, that she doesn't want the "Grandma" role. Just treat her like a distant acquaintance and you should be fine. It's how she seems to treat you.
post #5 of 10
Go ahead and invite her to things, and when she gets snippy about being invited, don't back down. "Wait a minute, I just asked you if you wanted to come spend time with us, you mentioned that you were interested in doing activity XYZ before. What on earth did you think I just invited you to do?"
post #6 of 10
But given how OPs mom has already acted, isn't inviting her to more things just inviting further disappoinment and angst? I agree with other PPs who said that your mom has pretty much stated clearly - in words and action - that she's not interested in being a grandma and not really even that interested in simply being family.

Why? Who knows, that's probably a complex combination of things. One thing that does come to mind though - but really this is based on very little info, just an impression: I wouldn't be suprised if she feels like you're the mother she never was, have the family she never had, and maybe that is just a bit much for her to be around? But that is HUGE speculation on my part, it's just an impression I got.

Most important thing though is reallly that she's showing you how she feels, and it may be time to have a talk with your kids about how sometimes in life, people really important to us don't act the way we'd like them to act. And ot emphasize that your kids have done nothing wrong, and that it really doesn't have anything to do with them even though they may be affected by it. That's where I'd put my energy if I was you. And like a PP said, treat mom like a distant relative. Including putting her requests of you way on the back burner unless they are easy for you to fulfill and you don't mind. But if it bothers you in any way, just make yourself unavailable. That's what she's done and if it's causing you sadness, it's totally fair for you to do it too.
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
I think I figured out why it was bothering me yesterday. I know how my mother is. I understand why she is the way she is, mostly. However, I was hanging out with friends on Thursday and Friday who all seem to have really involved families. Not saying they aren't crazy families, but really involved families. I've never had that and my kids have never had that. I think I just got sad and started overanalyzing things. Trying to see if there was something I could do or say to magically change her into what I want her to be. Of course, that is not going to happen, so I'll go back to making a family out of my community!

Thanks guys, sometimes these things get the better of me for a bit!
post #8 of 10
I'm sorry you're going through this, OP.

Two things: one of the first things you mentioned in your OP is that your mother is an alcoholic. To me, this is huge. Some people with addictions have, let's say...problems...with interpersonal relationships. I'm assuming when you say "alcoholic" you mean real alcoholic...not someone who just drinks heavily or is just an occasional alcohol abuser.

Second: some people just suck at familial relationships. DH's parents are deceased but my own parents pretty much live their own lives and aren't involved in their grandchildren's lives at all (my siblings' kids included). I live in an area where familial relationships are still really important (lots of Italian Americans, Hispanics, Muslims, etc.) and DH and I often feel like the odd people out. It's just me, DH and DD. There's no family for us. Often I pine for the close relationships that I see around me. My parents just don't see a need to connect on a regular level. DD is aware that she has grandparents, but she doesn't really know them...and I think that is sad in a lot of respects. I've come to terms with it, but it makes me sad nonetheless. DD will grow up with no sense of what came before her. I wish it were different.
post #9 of 10
{{HUGS}} It's not you, it's her. I'm so sorry.
post #10 of 10
yup, with a pp, when you said your mom is an alcoholic, (and I presume not a recovering alcoholic), then this seems... normal, if you can call it that.

I'd start teaching your kids not to expect anything from grandma. It may hurt, but unless she get's sober, it seems unlikely they'll be able to count on her for anything. Quite frankly, to an alcholic, alcohol comes first. above anything. and they'll lie to get it/lie about it. It's the nature of the disease.

s I'm sorry. It sounds like making your community into your family is a wonderful idea.
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