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post #21 of 29
oh lovesea, i'm afraid but i have to point out to you that you need not attend to him too much. he had developed expectation from you because you respond well to him. hence, he demands more. at the age of 4, he is surely capable of simple jobs like picking up his toy, opening a door or nose cleaning.

i also noticed that he is likely to be jealous because you are giving attention to your daughter. pls gently tell him that he is a big brother now and can be independant and understanding. tell him that you love him but sometimes need some time for little sister.

shouting is not allowed in the house and if it persist, put him in the time out corner for 4 minutes (even at bedtime).

it takes some patience as he already had developed this behavior. give yourself sometime and develop some skills to handle him. hope this help.
post #22 of 29
OP, I also recommend the book Simplicity Parenting by Kim John Payne. I checked it out of the library a couple of months ago and couldn't put it down -- it's wonderful. I used to nanny for a couple of children slightly younger than your DS, and one of them was very much the way you describe your DS in his behavior. When I read this book, a lot of his behavior "clicked" for me -- much of his whining and controlling, demanding behavior was a reaction to low-level stress in his environment causing anxiety for him. Payne recommends ways to identify these low-level stressors that cause anxiety for children, and simplify the environment so that high-strung children can relax a bit more. It might be worth the read, to see if his recommendations "click" for you. I know it made sense to me...
post #23 of 29
OP, my now 5 yo dd is very much like what you describe. Her 2 yo sis is pretty much the opposite. We always think of our dd1 as the high needs, highly sensitive anxious kids who demands more, is more intense...and it is not easy being her mama although I adore her and she makes me smile and laugh everyday. I am constantly struggling with setting boundaries etc. 2 things have helped us: 1) magnesium supplements to deal with the anxious energy 2) Her sister just turned 2 and now they can play together!!!! woohoo!! This is making such a huge difference for our little extrovert now has an adoring playmate. But I won't joke her 3rd year was ROUGH, 4 was a bit better...not sure about 5 as she just turned 5 a week ago! Take care of yourself & be sure to get lots of rest.


I'm really interested in reading Simplicity Parenting--going to check it out.
post #24 of 29
Proudmama- can you tell me about the magnesium supplements? I've never heard of this, sounds interesting.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by Kivgaen View Post
If your parents had said something to you like "I'd LOVE to be able to help you, except that (and then lowered their voice to a playful whisper) you used that voice again... Try again in a normal voice."

Do you believe you still would have felt that fear of failure?

I agree with you to a certain extent. I believe that the WAY we tell our children not to do something makes all the difference in the world. And our attitude at the time also has a huge influence on their moods and attitudes towards being disciplined. Discipline doesn't have to be a bad 4-letter word, it can be gentle, kind and motivating.
I do agree that discipline can and should be gentle and that you should always talk to your children with respect.

But I do think it is often unfair to pick on the way the child said something instead of listening to what the child is trying to say. It is always possible to consider whether there could be a reason why they sound unhappy. Then the whining can be addressed after you have acknowledged that you understand where the child is coming from.

That said, I know that listening to whining can be very draining.
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by HappyMommy2 View Post
BTW ... if anybody has a better term than "normal voice" I would love to hear it!! For some reason it puts me off a bit.

The whiny voice gets on my very last nerve!! When (just turned 4 yo) ds makes a request in a whiny or demanding tone I ask him to "please find a more polite way to say that" - when he was younger I'd phrase it as "a more polite way to say that would be xyz, can you please try again?" but he now has a good idea about what that entails and I don't usually have to model the words anymore. I use a very neutral tone and don't insist that he rephrase something if he's upset or in urgent need, but generally he just rephrases the previous request and we move on. I also try to model making polite requests when addressing him, (though they get progressively less polite the more times I have to ask!!)

I agree with another poster that this kind of parental request can be interpreted as punitive and ignore the underlying message, so I try to keep it to a very low key reminder about manners when making requests of other people.
post #27 of 29
My DD is still like this, and she is 7. Part of it is her being extroverted. And part, I believe, is that her love language is having people care for her (i.e. get her a drink when she could get one herself).

I find the more time/attention she gets from me, the harder she finds it to transition to being alone. What helps with that, for us, is warning: "in 1/2 hour, I am going to cook dinner. What are you going to play by yourself while I do that?". "What are you going to read/draw before lights out tonight?" etc.
post #28 of 29
My son was like this too. He's a very smart kid, and very sweet. But sometimes he can be very moody and demanding. If you have factored out all physiological possibilities (is he tired, hungry, thirsty, overstimulated?) and you have had your fill of his demands, you can tell him so. "Hon, I need some time to myself right now, why don't you sit and play quietly?" I know this sounds like a pipe dream, but when he starts to get upset, you can simply pick him up and put him in his room, explaining "you can come out when you've calmed down and are ready to play quietly." Seems harsh, but IMO kids do need to understand that adults have needs too. In fact, everyone else has needs too! We are not meant to be slaves to our kids.

I was very against isolation for quite some time, thinking "how does this show kids how to cooperate with each other?" I had it in my mind that "time out" (which is not what we call it, and isn't really the point of it) would result in adults who would sit and stew instead of talking things out and dealing with their emotions. Well my kids aren't adults yet, but I was dead wrong. When my high-needs son starts getting out of line (becoming too demanding for my patience, or just really moody/reactive), after a warning about his behavior and how it's affecting others, I send him to his room. When he comes out (he determines when he's ready to come out, but if he starts the same behavior I send him back in again), he has usually found a solution to whatever problem was going on, or tells me that he's ready to talk about it (which is a true discussion about my observations and what he says his motivations were), and we are usually able to cooperate. Now, do understand that my son is 6, but we started around 4 and his ability to understand the impact of his behaviors has evolved over that time period.

At first, I would lead the conversations in a patient way: "when you did this what were you hoping would happen? what did your sister say when you did that?" etc. and give suggestions about how his behaviors affected the other person (or me) and give suggestions about what I would have liked. We do this with my 3 year old daughter now, and when she starts to throw a fit or get really moody she goes to lie down in her bed for a little while (without even my suggestion), then emerges a little while later either to talk about it or to simply get on with her day.

I just wanted to point out that, like adults, some kids are just more introspective than others. Sometimes they don't realize that they need to think about something or just need some quiet time alone. This was the case with my son, though I didn't really realize it until I was at my wit's end. On the other hand, it's also possible that this is just a stage for your son, and he's feeling really clingy for some developmental reason. It's also possible that there's some sort of underlying physiological or psychological reason for his behavior, or that something had changed and he hasn't come to terms with it yet. Be sure to give him lots of attention at other times, but when you're done let him know in no uncertain terms that YOU'RE DONE and it's time for you to do x,y,z.
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by crazy_canuk View Post
The best advice I was ever given was that it's not my job to make him happy. That's his job. I do my best to give him what he needs without giving more than I'm capable of giving. That's all he can ask for.
YES!! Letting a kid believe that we are here to make them happy is a sad and false message. They will never be happy if they rely on others to change their mood, and I think that lesson is something that they learn while coming from the totally dependent baby stages into the mostly independent child stages. Not only do I believe this, but I also tell my kids often "It's not my job to make you happy (or entertained, etc.)" If you are bored, it's your responsibility to find something to do. Obviously, if there's something that I can do, I try to do it (sometimes I suggest activities or help problem-solve as to why he's unhappy), but the message is that I'm helping him solve his problems, rather than doing it for him.

Another idea is to swoop in when he says that he's feeling alone, and smother him completely with hugs and kisses until he squirming to get away. You could try chasing him around the house maniacally screaming for kisses. Sounds crazy, but just a "Playful Parenting" inspired idea.
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