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post #21 of 28
First, call the water company with bill in hand and ask how your water usage compares to the average 3 person household. If you are way above average they may help you out at no cost. Even if you are doing cloth dipes, there are many ways to reduce water usage - low flow shower heads ($10), high efficiency washer ($500+ .... get this only if you "have to" have those cloth dipes.)

How much longer are you in the lease?

Please don't go with the cc plan.
post #22 of 28
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business budget is interesting. How does that work? Why would having a separate budget for dh's business matter? It's just him, no other employees.

Its all our income and his expenses have to come out of that same as the rest of our expenses.


We are looking at apartments, i have tried to get dh to agree to move since we moved in bsaically, or even before, i hated this place and thought it was too big and expensive. Dh's income drop is recent. January (also the month my dad died) standards changed in his business along with fees and demand. So he is working much harder for smaller fees. It was a change that according to him was not predictable. He went from making about 12000 a month to almost nothing for jan feb, then got a few new clients and is now making around 7000 the past two months, but we never know if he will have the work on a daily basis.

My sort of "dream" financially has been to be able to put aside 1 month income and then use it for a month and put all dh's income into savings and budget for the upcoming month based on what he actually made the month past, not on dreams and hopes of what he may or may not make the coming month.


A year ago we were still paying a 3500 a month mortgage and doing well with that, had savings etc. so we thought that downgrading to 1700 a month was pretty good. We were never too worried about investment and savings because me being a sahm was temporary, now that dd is almost 3 i was supposed to go back to work full time and our income would at least double.

anyway it seems like we are constantly faced with the question of how much are we willing to sacrifice to keep dd out of daycare. Are we willing to move ot a 1 bedroom apartment and sell the car? Well i'll say im willign to do almost anything. but maybe its time to give up.
post #23 of 28
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business budget is interesting. How does that work? Why would having a separate budget for dh's business matter? It's just him, no other employees.
Number one, so you can track the profitability of the business. (and compare it to what he would earn as an employee with benefits in the same field)

Can you get PT work?
post #24 of 28
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A year ago we were still paying a 3500 a month mortgage and doing well with that, had savings etc. so we thought that downgrading to 1700 a month was pretty good. We were never too worried about investment and savings because me being a sahm was temporary, now that dd is almost 3 i was supposed to go back to work full time and our income would at least double.

anyway it seems like we are constantly faced with the question of how much are we willing to sacrifice to keep dd out of daycare. Are we willing to move ot a 1 bedroom apartment and sell the car? Well i'll say im willign to do almost anything. but maybe its time to give up.
First off,

Right now, you are still grieving, dealing with a new pregnancy and a drop in income. Very very intense time.

Sometimes it does feel like 'nothing matters', that nothing you do will get your out of your present situation, or that more turns will put you back to square one. The recent economy just makes things worse.

The thing is, never ever give up. When I graduated with a business degree in 2007, I was 7 mos pregnant. When I felt like I would be able to get back out in the field in 2008, everything crashed and well, new grad with little/no experience verses other degreed people with experience. Fun. Dh has also had a heck of a time finding anything other than clerk work, which pays nothing, at least not in this area. At 28, all I can afford is one bedroom in a house shared with others. My cousins, all in college still, just had their mother, the only income earner, really, pass away suddenly last June.

Right now, we are all living together, splitting costs. This is not the way I expected to be living. But you know what, there have been benefits. For one, I make my own soap and laundry detergent to save $$$ and super sensitive skinned dh and ds have never had a breakout since. I make lots of scratch foods, which has totally spoiled me & my family. An ordinary muffin just doesn't taste good anymore. Homemade cleaners work nicely, and again, super sensitive skinned dh hasn't had an issue since. Seriously, his skin would just be full of sores before, which took lots of not so nice topical medication to heal, which was $$. Ds has super close relationships with his cousins, has only had family watch him, and even as an only child, learned how to share, etc. While it's not what I imagined, it's not bad either.

Right now, it's overwhelming to think of everything. However, people are telling you it can be done and that it's really not as bad as you are thinking it will be. Change is difficult and scary. But a lot of times, it turns out to be a really good thing too. ETA: Focus on ONE thing at a time. For example, the biggest budget help would be to find a different place. You don't necessarily NEED an apartment, there are 2 bedroom homes scattered throughout that will go for cheap rent due to # of rooms. Focus on perhaps finding a few different areas near BART right now. Then focus on finding tenants to take over the lease, and find a place. Then move onto the next step. Much easier to manage, less overwhelming.

As for your dh's varying income, can you take the lowest income he's brought in since the change and budget for that? Dh gets a bonus at one of the places he works at, which can vary, but I budget everything from his 'base' pay amount, the least he would bring in. Everything has to fit within that framework. The 'extra' can be allocated to cushion the 'base' categories. Example: If dh's bonus is $200, I can add some to the food budget or 'extras' budget (clothing, toys, whatever doesn't fit squarely into the others), or anything I think needs padding that month. Stocking up on food/home goods one month gives me a buffer that allows me to save up for other things.

Ami
post #25 of 28
Looking at your budget and need for money I would do 2 things immediately. Stop preschool, that is an instant $300/month saved. It is easy to do waldorf inspired preschool at home (and if you felt the need for a curriculum look at oak meadow). I would also work p/t or if that would mean adding the expense of daycare look at doing home childcare so you can continue to stay home with your little ones and still add to the budget. Even if you only take in 1 child per month that is going to be anywhere between $500-800/month depending on your area and the going cost of childcare. Between cutting out the preschool and taking in 1 child you will have $800-1100 extra money per month for that budget.
post #26 of 28
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business budget is interesting. How does that work? Why would having a separate budget for dh's business matter? It's just him, no other employees.

Its all our income and his expenses have to come out of that same as the rest of our expenses.
No it isn't all YOUR income. It is the Business' income. Your dh should have a budget for the business how else is he supposed to keep track of where the business money is coming from & being spent. Part of that budget is monthly expenses for the business INCLUDING a paycheque for your dh & that paycheque being the ONLY income from the business your dh takes. The business should have seperate bank accounts for strictly the business. If things are short at home you DON'T take $ from the business. If the business has an increase in income 1 month dh doesn't take an extra paycheque, it needs to stay in the business for the months that it makes less(or nothing). IF at the end of the fiscal year there is a large surplus then DH can receive a bonus.

While you're going over your home budget/finances you should really be going over the business finances. There are probably things there that could be cut back on.
post #27 of 28
I just calculated what you would owe if you put $3000 a month on credit cards at a 15% APR (I just guessed) for 24 months. It would be $84,406.31. (ETA: A whopping $12,000 of that amount is just interest - money down the toilet).

1) Are you prepared to deduct that lump sum from your inheritance right off the bat? Are you prepared to lose the value of that money, which could have been a significant amount toward your house (it could actually buy mine but we live in different places) or significant amount toward your retirement, etc.?

2) Where is the inheritance being kept these days? For example, is it invested in stocks? What will happen if the stock market crashes in 2 years and you are left holding the bag?

3) Your husband hasn't separated his business from his family. What happens if someone sues your husband? I don't know what kind of work he does, but what if someone gets hurt from something he builds, or there is a contract dispute? Do you know that if someone sues your husband and wins, they can take all of your personal assets? Look into having him create an LLC, which will protect your family from his business. If properly done, if someone sues him they can only take his business assets. Which of course would still be devestating but it won't mean they can take your house, car, etc.

4) What happens if your husband's business dries up during the next two years and cannot make the minimum payments on the credit cards? What if you cannot qualify for another credit card to continue living off of? Two years is a long time and we're in a very shaky economy. It's not smart to only plan for the best case scenario, you have to plan for contingencies as well. You might decide two years is too long to consider making any adjustments to your lifestyle (which you can't afford) but this choice could have dire consequences, even bankrupcy, if things don't go perfectly. (And it will have major consquences even if things do go perfectly - $85k in lost opportunity, for nothing really).

5) Is the inheritance enough that you can continue your lifestyle anyway? I would think it would have to be at least $3-4 million, perhaps more, for this to be sustainable. Is there any point to living your lifestyle for 2 years only to have to adjust it anyway? Wouldn't it make more sense to live within your means now, and have financial freedom in 2 years?
post #28 of 28
I believe someone else mentioned this, but the first thing I think I would do in your situation is talk to whoever is managing the trust, explain how dire your financial situation is, and find out if there is any way to get an advance on your inheritance. (I am so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine grappling with the death of a parent and a financial crisis at the same time.)

Someone calculated that your DH's business expenses are over $2400/mo. From your posts, it sounds like he is only bringing in around $5000/mo., total. That means your actual family income is only around $2500/mo. I can see why it is a struggle to get by - anywhere, let alone in the Bay area! Is your DH very passionate about what he does for a living, and does he thrive on being a business owner? If the answer to either of those questions is no, he might look at reassessing his career choice - especially considering his pessimistic view of his future earning potential.

There is definite excess in your budget that could be cut out to get you through the next few years if you are truly willing to do anything to improve your situation, but the fact remains that your income is just plain not cutting it right now. As much as I value the experience of being a SAHM, I would definitely look into part-time employment or even a second job for DH before financing my life via credit cards.
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