TF ideas for an 8 month-old - Page 2

[ohiomommy1122]

awesome ideas I have been looking for more ideas for my 9 mo old

[JoyfamMama]

Is rice TERRIBLE?? He loves it, and seems to do well with the little he's had. It's not wheat or an allergic food, but I still don't know if I should give it to him...

[spughy]

It's not terrible. The problem is that white rice has no nutritional value and brown rice's nutrition is largely inaccessible for babies' immature digestive systems. It has calories, but less than a comparable volume of breastmilk. You can improve it, by soaking brown rice overnight before cooking, and cooking in broth, and slathering it in butter, but I wouldn't give a lot of it, especially if you're having weight gain problems.

[JoyfamMama]

Originally Posted by spughy

It's not terrible. The problem is that white rice has no nutritional value and brown rice's nutrition is largely inaccessible for babies' immature digestive systems. It has calories, but less than a comparable volume of breastmilk. You can improve it, by soaking brown rice overnight before cooking, and cooking in broth, and slathering it in butter, but I wouldn't give a lot of it, especially if you're having weight gain problems.

Ok, thank you! That makes perfect sense. He doesn't get a lot, and I won't be radically upping it, it just makes something that I can make for us all, and he can just join us in eating it. And besides that, soaking, broth, and butter are good for mommy and daddy, too!!

[organicmidwestmama]

Originally Posted by JoyfamMama

Hi Ladies,

My baby is now 8 months, and eating like a horse. Unfortunately, he lost weight again at his last appt.

We've been doing TF feeding with him since birth. He started on egg yolks and avocado at 4 months, and now eats most veg, meats, butter, applesauce, yogurt, and just this week - cottage cheese. NO wheat, corn or egg whites. I am still BF 3-4 times/day, and he sleeps through the night 10-12 hours.

...Thanks!

does he only bf 4xs per 24 hrs? an 8 month old should still be getting most (as in 75%-100%) of his nourishment from breast milk or formula. weight loss isnt normal in infants. if you arent producing enough milk id work on that or consider formula.

[organicmidwestmama]

Originally Posted by JoyfamMama

Ahhh...ok, so you didn't find any problem with beans?? I've been hesitant to try them at all. That would greatly add to my available variety for meals. Thank you for that idea!

actually id wouldnt do a lot of beans, and if you do beans, soak them in an acidic medium and cook for a looong time. dr cowan, MD, of www.fourfoldhealing.com and co-author of a book w/sally fallon, says grains shouldnt be introed until later; from- http://fourfoldhealing.com/2007/12/3...-our-children/

"...Six Months to One Year...
...In keeping with the principle that there are three major food groups, I encourage starting the child with one or two foods from each group as their first foods. These foods will be the main foods given for the first two weeks. From the animal food group, I start with egg yolks cooked for about 8-10 minutes, and butter, preferably cultured butter, as yellow as possible. The grain category will include brown rice and millet, both soaked for at least 24 hours, then cooked with plenty of water for a long time. The resultant, slightly sour, very thin porridge can be mixed with the other food eaten in this time. The vegetable group will be carrots and sweet potatoes, again cooked for a long time until they are very soft. The approximate proportions of this food should be a third of each or perhaps even up to 50% of the animal food category.

The most important nutrient for children are healthy fats. These fats help to provide immunity, development of the nervous system, and to protect them from micro-organisms. This category of food should never be lower than one third, if at all possible. After 2-3 weeks on this diet, more foods from each category can be introduced. In the animal food category during this next month or two introduce whole-milk yoghurt or kefir, slightly warmed whole raw milk, ghee, organic liver, and soup broth...
...Of all the food groups, grains are the most likely to cause digestive disturbances or allergies if they are not properly prepared. All grains should be soaked for at least 24 hours before cooking and then cooked at low heat for a long time..."

[Gingercat]

Originally Posted by organicmidwestmama

The most important nutrient for children are healthy fats. These fats help to provide immunity, development of the nervous system, and to protect them from micro-organisms. This category of food should never be lower than one third, if at all possible. After 2-3 weeks on this diet, more foods from each category can be introduced. In the animal food category during this next month or two introduce whole-milk yoghurt or kefir, slightly warmed whole raw milk, ghee, organic liver, and soup broth...

Why should an exclusively breastfed infant supplement his mother's milk with the milk/dairy products of another mammal? I understand the need of animal products in an infant's diet (since we are carnivores) in the form of eggs and meat, but I do not see the purpose of introducing dairy products at such an early age (if at all). No other mammal consumes the milk of other species, so why do we accept that this fine for human babies?

[spughy]

Originally Posted by Gingercat

Why should an exclusively breastfed infant supplement his mother's milk with the milk/dairy products of another mammal? I understand the need of animal products in an infant's diet (since we are carnivores) in the form of eggs and meat, but I do not see the purpose of introducing dairy products at such an early age (if at all). No other mammal consumes the milk of other species, so why do we accept that this fine for human babies?

I agree that there's no point in giving a breastfed baby another species' milk straight, but yogurt and kefir can help build healthy gut flora which aids in digesting other things too, and ghee and butter are concentrated sources of fat and vitamins.

[organicmidwestmama]

Originally Posted by Gingercat

Why should an exclusively breastfed infant supplement his mother's milk with the milk/dairy products of another mammal? I understand the need of animal products in an infant's diet (since we are carnivores) in the form of eggs and meat, but I do not see the purpose of introducing dairy products at such an early age (if at all). No other mammal consumes the milk of other species, so why do we accept that this fine for human babies?

the quote here is actually from Dr. Cowan, not me. please see the link i inserted on my pp.

personally, i think it's fine to not eat dairy if you are careful to consume greens and nuts and other sources of calcium, magnesium, etc. in the OP situation, though, i would suggest doing something to help her baby gain weight, loseing weight isnt normal in an infant and to me would be a warning that what i was feeding, whether it be breastmilk or solids, wasnt providing enough nutrients to help him grow.