question about oral polio vaccination in the 70s

[tatsu15]

Hi ladies,

Since I recently heard the news about the oral rotavirus vaccine being contaminated with a pig virus, it reminds me of how the news covered a story where it stated that in the 60s or 70s the oral polio vaccine was found to be contaminated with a monkey virus and decades later, ppl who had that vaccine got a certain type of cancer that was linked to the monkey virus (possibly from the contaminated polio vaccine). So I'm wondering was the contaminated polio vaccine from the 60s or 70s? I ask, because I remember receiving the oral polio vaccine in the 70s (I am 36- so sometime in the 70s) I remember them putting something in my mouth so I assume that was the oral polio vaccine. Thanks in advance to anyone that would know this info.

[caned & able]

There were plenty of problems with the polio vaccine.

Read Paul Offit's own Cutter Incident, from the early 1950s. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...864181,00.html Many children acquired polio from the early vaccines, therefore many of those cases in the mid-1950s were iatrogenically induced.

Read Money magazine from December 1996. Leta Shaffer got polio from her own daughter's OPV in 1986. The mother is still in a wheel chair.


There is a book by Ed Haslem that discusses this subject. There are plenty of other stories about the polio vax causing AIDS in Africa. Something about the vax being contaminated with SIV40 and causing brain tumors.

As for the rotavirus, this is the second time it has been recalled. It is Paul Offit's vaccine. He owns the patent on it and sits on the board that approved it.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by caned & able

There are plenty of other stories about the polio vax causing AIDS in Africa. Something about the vax being contaminated with SIV40 and causing brain tumors.

SIV and SV-40 are separate bones of conspiratorial contention.

[caned & able]

Does that make it wrong?

Is Paul Offit's book conspiratorial?

The only way to get polio in the Western Hemisphere is to get the OPV or stand next to someone who just got the OPV. There has not been a naturally occurring case of polio since 1979. Since then, all polio cases are associated with the polio vaccine.

The OPV is currently the polio vax of choice in Africa and India.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by Otto

SIV and SV-40 are separate bones of conspiratorial contention.

Hmmm I didn't think SV-40 was considered conspiracy, but rather fact.
From what I've read about SV-40, I have read enough facts to convince me it is FAR from a conspiracy

[Fyrestorm]

Originally Posted by Marnica

Hmmm I didn't think SV-40 was considered conspiracy, but rather fact.
From what I've read about SV-40, I have read enough facts to convince me it is FAR from a conspiracy

Right...the CDC admits it.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol3no2/news245.htm

in the late 1950s and early 1960s when polio and adenovirus vaccines prepared in rhesus monkey cells containing SV40 were used (10,11). In response to the implications of detecting SV40 DNA in human tumors, theFood and Drug Administration, National Institutes of Health, National Vaccine Program Office, and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sponsored a workshop on SV40 on January 27-28, 1997 at the National Institutes of Health to examine the possibility that SV40 is an infectious agent in humans.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by tatsu15

Hi ladies,

Since I recently heard the news about the oral rotavirus vaccine being contaminated with a pig virus, it reminds me of how the news covered a story where it stated that in the 60s or 70s the oral polio vaccine was found to be contaminated with a monkey virus and decades later, ppl who had that vaccine got a certain type of cancer that was linked to the monkey virus (possibly from the contaminated polio vaccine). So I'm wondering was the contaminated polio vaccine from the 60s or 70s? I ask, because I remember receiving the oral polio vaccine in the 70s (I am 36- so sometime in the 70s) I remember them putting something in my mouth so I assume that was the oral polio vaccine. Thanks in advance to anyone that would know this info.

SV-40 has been found in children who are too young to have received the "contaminated" vaccine from the 50's, indicating that it was probably contaminated far beyond that timeframe. In this book: "The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a Cancer-Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the Millions of Americans Exposed" (GREAT book by the way), a couple lost their 2 year old to brain cancer, they paid a private lab and discovered that the tumor had SV-40 in it. Their child received the polio vax in the late 90's. SCARY......

[Otto]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm

Right...the CDC admits it.

I should have avoided the alliterative temptation. The main point was to disentangle the reference to "SIV40" into SIV and SV-40.

[ema-adama]

The discussion of SIV made me think of this article on vaccine ethics in the Developing World

Medical Double Standards in the Third World

[Deborah]

Originally Posted by Otto

I should have avoided the alliterative temptation. The main point was to disentangle the reference to "SIV40" into SIV and SV-40.

Your disentangling of the reference is appreciated, thank you.

And do watch out for alliteration--echoes of Beowulf!

[tatsu15]

Originally Posted by Marnica

SV-40 has been found in children who are too young to have received the "contaminated" vaccine from the 50's, indicating that it was probably contaminated far beyond that timeframe. In this book: "The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a Cancer-Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the Millions of Americans Exposed" (GREAT book by the way), a couple lost their 2 year old to brain cancer, they paid a private lab and discovered that the tumor had SV-40 in it. Their child received the polio vax in the late 90's. SCARY......

When you say far beyond that timeframe do you mean in the 30s and 40s? Or all the way to the 70s in which folks like me received it? Thanks in advance. I just really wanna know if the polio vaccine was contaminated in the 70s

[Deborah]

The first vaccine was licensed in the mid-50s to huge hoopla. This was the Salk vaccine and it was injected. It was most likely contaminated. It caused at least one outbreak of polio.

The second vaccine was licensed in the early 1960s. This was the Sabin vaccine and it was oral, and live. And definitely contaminated.

Now, this is the weird part. The Salk vaccine was supposed to have worked and been effective at stopping polio. And yet, as many people as possible were revaccinated with the Sabin vaccine. So did the Salk vaccine really work?

And did everyone really need multiple doses of SV-40?

[Fyrestorm]

Originally Posted by tatsu15

When you say far beyond that timeframe do you mean in the 30s and 40s? Or all the way to the 70s in which folks like me received it? Thanks in advance. I just really wanna know if the polio vaccine was contaminated in the 70s

This is in great dispute among the scientific community. Here is a link to the SV40 foundation that discusses the question:

http://www.sv40foundation.org/SV40-from-PV.html

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by tatsu15

When you say far beyond that timeframe do you mean in the 30s and 40s? Or all the way to the 70s in which folks like me received it? Thanks in advance. I just really wanna know if the polio vaccine was contaminated in the 70s

well, the child they refer to in the book was vaccinated in the late 90's, so the 70's yes most likely there was contamination then as well. here is his story http://www.sv40foundation.org/Alexander.html the government killed this child.....its sad they can get away with what is when you strip it all away...murder.