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Family. Ugh. (Vent/advice?)

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I think I posted about my family previously here. How they kicked me out when I was 18, due to a whole slew of things, the most important being religion.

ANYHOW, the last time I talked to them(mom and dad) was in January(there was a falling out), and I just called them yesterday, trying to get in touch with my brother. Dad said he wasn't home, and didn't know where he was, and didn't know when he was coming home(usual, my bro goes places without telling anyone, and comes home whenever he fancies). Then, a little while later my dad called back, told me he should probably tell me the truth, and told me my brother left. he's living somewhere else now, and they have no idea where. he's 17(turning 18 next month)

His crowd is not a very happy one. What I mean is, these friends are a group of mentally distraught, drug addicted, academically struggling, teens. My brother started smoking in middle school. He smokes AT school, and gets in trouble for it. He was caught selling more illicit drugs within the past 8 months. It goes without saying, he is in trouble with the courts many times over. He does not have a job, save when he goes to my grandfather's house to "earn" something. (I say "earn" because my grandfather practically gives out money.)

Many of his friends come from broken families. A lot of their parents are divorced, one of his friend's divorced dads have committed suicide. His friends ARE the drug crowd. They are the kids who will sell you whatever drug you will buy. His friends are the type, who, a few years back, killed a man (and scattered his remains throughout the neighboring towns because he didn't pay up on his drug debt. My brother though the man deserved it. All of his friends go to an alternative school(the school that teens go to if they know they wont graduate HS on time, or to get their GED. A lot of pregnant teens go to this school as well(they have a day care).

My brother, my mom, and her dad all have very violent attitudes. My Grandfather will yell and scream for a very long time if you moved something out of its place and now he can't find it. Something happened in the past which caused my mom to not talk to him for years(this was before i was born). My mom has a history of hitting and yelling. She used to hit me if she didn't like my opinion on certain matters(she would read an article about something that supposedly happpend in the middle east, or something that some world leader said, or something that some mid-east, anti muslim, or muslim blogger wrote, and ask me how I felt about it. if I felt "wrong" about it, i.e. if she judged my feelings to be wrong, or different from how I should feel, she would get up from the computer desk, and chase me, pry my bedroom door open and hit me until my dad pulled her away because he was getting worried I was about to die, or until she had finished pouring all of her anger out onto me. My brother, he swears loudly over the littlest of things(and sometimes just so he can hear himself swear) is physically violent I still have a scar from when he stabbed me with a pencil, years ago. He Punches(really hard) for fun, and "joke punched" me in the stomach when I was 4 months pregnant(it looked like he was going to punch me(really hard), but he stopped right before actually touching me). and My dad told me that he had punched a hole in the wall(one of the reasons why they wanted him gone)

My parents are strangely strict. They are strict about the silliest little things, mainly because they feel like they have to be strict about it so they can be good parents. To add to that, they are not consistent. For example, we would be told we have to be home at 9:00(not 9:01, and by 9:10, we were in BIG trouble) but, my brother was cutting himself, doing drugs, swearing, and that was relatively fine.

Recently, my brother has been threatening suicide. I feel like there is a pretty good chance that he would go through with it too. My parents don't think so though. They think its an empty threat, and decided its too much stress to have "that" (i.e. threat of suicide) in the house. (another reason why they are glad he is gone.) I think he needs help. I worry that my brother is going to commit suicide, and even though my parents admitted that its probably a call for help, they don't want to help him.

They sent him away(to who knows where) because of his lack of court compliance, irresponsibility(he bought a dagger with the little money he earned(from grandfather) instead of saving it to pay off his court fines.) the drugs, punching a hole in the wall, coming home late(11pm), and threatening suicide. They told him to leave. They said "either go back to see D(therapist), come home on time, and shape up, or leave." so he left. he doesn't have a job, and he's probably getting into more trouble now.

ARGH! I guess they just can't parent teens. I don't get it!

I'm worried about my brother though, something needs to be done, and I feel like I'm the only one who can do it. But what?

I don't even understand how a 17 year old can run away from home, and that it is ok with his parents. and that its ok legally. I really felt like calling CPS on them. And I probably should have. Then maybe my brother wouldn't be in this mess!
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This is a really, really tough situation. I don't have any really good advise, but my gut is telling me that you should be very careful trying to track down your brother because his influence in your life would be extremely disruptive. This would not be a good thing for you, and it could be very dangerous for your child.

Some folks have to sink to the very bottom before they decide they can swim. Maybe your brother is one of these?

I'm so sorry that your parents have shirked their job with you guys. That is so hard. My mom came from a house where all her brothers and sisters lived in constant fear of being beaten by their alcoholic father, and they all left young. She told me that they all agreed the best revenge they could possible have was to raise their own kids the opposite from how they were raised. And they really did it. So in your case I think keeping your family at arms length is really the best thing you can do for yourself and your child. But its hard, I know.

ETA: I grew up in SE Michigan too!
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I disagree, to an extent.

I do think that keeping yourself and your family safe from your brother is important, however, quite clearly, your brother needs help.

I would act now, before he turns 18, because there isn't so much you can do when he does (unless he is willing to accept your help)

He's your brother, to me, I feel like I would have to try. I do understand people giving up on their siblings after a long time of trying to help them.

To me, this isn't the case here. He's 17 (and quite frankly, most 17 year olds are still kids, today. They haven't been given a chance to grow up, and so they haven't.)

I would say there is a good chance that your brother really really wants someone to beleive in him, help him, love him, and to trust. If your mom and grandpa are abusive (it sounds like they are), and your parents have given up, and his friends are scum, who is he going to turn to? I wasn't as badly behaving, however I was definitely very badly behaved for our circles as a teenager, nearly flunking school, AND very depressed and angry. What I needed, was for someone to keep beleiving in me, after the school, and my parents had pretty much given up. If I hadn't met DP, who believed completely in me, and loved me, and was a place to be safe, I don't think I would still be alive today. Now, after getting out of the bad enviroment, and out into a situation where I can be sucessful, with DP supporting me, I am doing very well, supporting myself, and have very little depression. I When I was a teen, I always secretly wished I had been bad enough to be sent to boot camp, or something, because then I would be in a new situation, and might get help that would actually help instead of the help that wasn't helping, from people who were starting to give up. I didn't WANT to be angry, failing, depressed, suicidal, etc.
I know your brother isn't me, and his situation might be very different. However, it might not be. It might be that 1 person believing in him, and helping him might be enough.

If he's depressed, do you think he would have been comfortable asking your parents for help when he lived with them? Many depressed people have the hardest time asking for help, and if he has a bad relationship with your parents, he probably didn't. Particularly if they don't take him seriously. There is a GREAT deal of shame in your depression that often goes along with depression.

Yes, some folks have to sink to bottom before they can swim, and he might have to, however if he is living with friends in that situation, doesn't have someone to talk to, if/when he hits bottom, how exactly is he supposed to start swimming? I don't think that you should not extend help to someone supposing they need to hit bottom first, if no one has given them the help they need to get out first. Only after you and others have tried and tried and tried to help someone, can you assume that they need to hit bottom first. Sometimes, they just need to be in a safe place, surrounded by love, support, encouragement, and have work/something to do that can restore their confidence in their abilities.

I'm not sure what the best thing to do would be, to help your brother, and protect your family. I suspect that you could call CPS, and they might be able to help. (with more than just getting your parents in trouble, they would almost certainly know of resources to help your brother.) I would call them, and explain that you want to help your brother and don't know how, and also are a little scared for your own family. CPS is often villianized, but their goal IS to help kids, and your brother clearly needs help. (and perhaps quite luckily, is still a kid for a little while more)

*hugs*
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