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Help me figure this out about Dh please.

post #1 of 34
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**I'm a long time member but this is *very personal so I created a new username.

I've had this in my head all morning and it's driving me insane.

Could my Dh be gay?

An explanation:

We've been married 8 yrs and come from a super-traditional culture. Grew up in loving but very straightlaced homes with traditional man/woman relationships in all aspects (both our moms were SAHM, dads brought home the bread, patriarchal society etc.)

The first week after marriage one day Dh just came home, threw himself on the couch and BAWLED. He never told me why, has never done it again, and to my knowledge has never cried since. Over the years of our marriage he has become more and more involved in his work, so much so that sometimes he'd rather just go to work than hang out with us at home (not saing he does that but I feel he would if he could). Over the years the affection in our relationship has become almost non-existent. It's not like we fight all the time, but we're kind of cool towards each other. I mean we'll cuddle/kiss when making up but it's like cursory. Granted, we have 2 young kids but I don't think our lives are stressed or anything.

The biggest thing wrong in her our marriage though, by far, is the lack of sexual intimacy. It's been a year after my last birth and we've dtd maybe 4-5 times. And it's not for MY lack of libido. It *could* be a libido issue for him but I know for a fact that he masturbates multiple times a week but has no interest in sex. I've asked him outright like "let's dtd, the kids are in bed" but he'd rather watch a movie. every time. even when we do it he's not intrested in foreplay, just like slam, bang etc. then turn to the side and sleep. I've told him it's not fun for me but he gets embarassed talking about sex.

I don't know why this gay thing came into my mind but I'm feeling like I might be in his way to something else. He married because that's what was expected of him but he'd rather not be, yk? Can I ask him this question outright or is there a more delicate way to approach this? Do we need counselling at all costs?

ETA: I forgot to add one important detail. He's very homophobic, or atleast that's how he seems to me. When we were naming our second son, he absolutely REFUSED to name him a particular name that I really liked. He wouldn't even consider it. Fine. But one time I came upon his yearbook from college that had a note from a taboo-named person who'd written something like "Dh, sex will never be fun w/o you or something." Now it was a capital SEX which could've been an acronym for something or it could've been written as a joke or whatever. I wasn't even snooping..just came upon it and found it odd but have never spoken to Dh about this.
post #2 of 34
Anything's possible. Have you checked his web-browser history for clues, or would that be too much snooping? I mean, there are certain websites that could give you some pretty obvious clues one way or the other, if they happened to be on his history.
post #3 of 34
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Originally Posted by lolar2 View Post
Anything's possible. Have you checked his web-browser history for clues, or would that be too much snooping? I mean, there are certain websites that could give you some pretty obvious clues one way or the other, if they happened to be on his history.
he never surfs anthing questionable at home. his computer is in a central area n he doesn't hide anything. surfing from work is forbidden.
post #4 of 34
If I had read something like that in my dh's yearboook I would have to ask him about it. Even if he is not gay the lack of sex would be a big issue for me and I would force the subject until we figured out what was going on.
post #5 of 34
He could be gay or he could just not love you. I would sit him down and tell him that I loved him, would always be there for him, but obviously something is wrong and he can tell you or tell a therapist.

What would you do if he said he was gay?
post #6 of 34
A small percentage of the population is very uninterested in sex. He might be straight and love you lots and still not want to have sex very often. I do understand that it is disturbing, though! I think some kind of councelling, seeing a sexologist for instance, might be a good idea.
post #7 of 34
Okay rabbitmum got me thinking.... For me, someone who masturbates multiple times a week shows an interest in sex (though it could be strictly stress relief), so I did some googling. It seems that men who are not having sex are not having any relationship with their penis.

OP I would book an appt with a sex therapist.
post #8 of 34
I say that you need to talk to him. No matter what else you do, sit down and talk. You guys are partners, no matter how shy, you should be able to talk about these kinds of things.

You said he came from a very traditional home. Were they very conservative about sex? It's hard to be told that something is evil and dirty your whole life, then oh! you're married now, enjoy with your spouse. I think that some people just don't get past that.

Like others have suggested, you may benefit from seeing a therapist. I'd try to talk to him first, so at least you know where you stand.
post #9 of 34
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Okay rabbitmum got me thinking.... For me, someone who masturbates multiple times a week shows an interest in sex (though it could be strictly stress relief), so I did some googling. It seems that men who are not having sex are not having any relationship with their penis.

OP I would book an appt with a sex therapist.
Oh he has a relationship with his penis all right. I do believe his masturbation is mostly stress relief. He has even been aroused with me which is why him being gay is only one of the possibilities. I do think he may have fallen out of love with me or, at the very least, is finding me less attractive than before. I don't know how to approach this whole thing but.
post #10 of 34
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What would you do if he said he was gay?
I would know where I stand. Then we could decide if we wanted to stay together or not. I'm not experienced with this but there do seem to be other kinds of relationships, even marriages, where the sexual component is more open as in seeing other people etc. It could be messy, but I would appreciate not being baffled by this whole thing.
post #11 of 34
You know him better than anyone. If you think he is, he probably is. Why don't you just ask him?
post #12 of 34
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I say that you need to talk to him. No matter what else you do, sit down and talk. You guys are partners, no matter how shy, you should be able to talk about these kinds of things.

I have brought it up a few times and each time he's flitted around the topic and it's fizzled out. To him, no sex is no big deal and he doesn't get how it is for me. I'm myself not a dtd 5 times a day person but I don't think initiating or asking maybe once a week is too much.

You said he came from a very traditional home. Were they very conservative about sex? It's hard to be told that something is evil and dirty your whole life, then oh! you're married now, enjoy with your spouse. I think that some people just don't get past that.

Yes, that could be one of the issues. BUT we're adults now living very far away from our families. One would think he'd be able to give that stigma up or work through it. Not addressing it at all, and not wanting to, isn't the way to go, IMO.

Like others have suggested, you may benefit from seeing a therapist. I'd try to talk to him first, so at least you know where you stand.
I want to try talking about it. Tell me how.
post #13 of 34
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I want to try talking about it. Tell me how.
"Sweetie, I'll always love you no matter what. I hope you know that. I need to ask you a very difficult question, but I need to know. I'll believe you either way, and I won't be angry. Please tell me the truth. Do you have feelings for other men?"

(coming from a conservative culture, he'll probably have a hard time with the word "gay.")
post #14 of 34
Well, it sounds like there is a problem. He might be gay, or maybe has a fetish that he's too ashamed of to tell you, like bondage, roleplay, crossdressing, or whatever. When I was married with my now ex, one of the reasons oour sex life sucked was because I realized overtime that I had some kinks/fetishes and I was too embarrassed to tell him. Now that I've made peace with it, my sex life is happy again.
He might also be in love with someone else, whether a man or a woman.
Whatever the problem is, I think you guys need counseling ASAP, separately and together. I'd look for a therapist who specializes in marriage/LTR and sexuality.
I hope you guys can work it out
post #15 of 34
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Originally Posted by A&A View Post
You know him better than anyone. If you think he is, he probably is. Why don't you just ask him?
That might be too direct, especially if he's in denial. He might lie. I'd approach him in a more subtle/gentle manner.
post #16 of 34
If it were me, and I suspected DH might have feelings for other men, and I also suspected that he was terribly afraid of those feelings and not be able to admit them or talk about them, I would probably suggest something like, "How would you feel about having another person join us in bed, just for fun?" and if he didn't freak out, then I might suggest, "would you prefer another man or another woman?"

I think I'd probably be open to helping DH figure out his sexuality by helping him find another person, and assist it in happening, and being willing to step back as things progressed.
post #17 of 34
Maybe it is not the sex, but the intimacy he has a problem with. It might not be that he wants men or something else, it might that he doesn't want or can't handle a close connection to another person. You said he seems distant in other ways and doesn't like foreplay, so that would fit in with this. Some people reserve their love only for themselves and don't need other people for love.

If he is homophobic and from a traditional culture (or even if he wasn't) I would not recommend asking him if he was gay.
post #18 of 34
If this were my DH, him being gay wouldn't even cross my mind. With us, DH started out very shy about sex. It was tough in the beginning and I felt like he didn't find me attractive, but he was just painfully shy. I know that isn't how it is for you, but there can be other options other than he's gay or doesn't find you attractive.

Have you ever heard of "The Book of Questions"? It's a little book with random questions that are intended to start discussions. There's a sex/relationship version, too. Are you guys ever in the car? It seems like it's a better place to talk, because there isn't so much focus on each other and it makes talking about awkward things a bit easier. I'll always read stuff to him and get his opinions and you can do the same.

Do you read magazines? If there's a topic where people give their answers (about fantasies, for example) you could read it to him and ask what his answer would be.

I don't think these kinds of things work in a "big discussion" setting. It's nice to have little bits of discussion over a span of time. You're also less likely to have him shut down.
post #19 of 34
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Well, it sounds like there is a problem. He might be gay, or maybe has a fetish that he's too ashamed of to tell you, like bondage, roleplay, crossdressing, or whatever. When I was married with my now ex, one of the reasons oour sex life sucked was because I realized overtime that I had some kinks/fetishes and I was too embarrassed to tell him. Now that I've made peace with it, my sex life is happy again.
He might also be in love with someone else, whether a man or a woman.
Whatever the problem is, I think you guys need counseling ASAP, separately and together. I'd look for a therapist who specializes in marriage/LTR and sexuality.
I hope you guys can work it out
Yeah, we've never discussed fetishes or fantasies, ever. How do I look for or get in touch with a therapist who specialises in these issues?
post #20 of 34
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If this were my DH, him being gay wouldn't even cross my mind. With us, DH started out very shy about sex. It was tough in the beginning and I felt like he didn't find me attractive, but he was just painfully shy. I know that isn't how it is for you, but there can be other options other than he's gay or doesn't find you attractive.

Have you ever heard of "The Book of Questions"? It's a little book with random questions that are intended to start discussions. There's a sex/relationship version, too. Are you guys ever in the car? It seems like it's a better place to talk, because there isn't so much focus on each other and it makes talking about awkward things a bit easier. I'll always read stuff to him and get his opinions and you can do the same.

Do you read magazines? If there's a topic where people give their answers (about fantasies, for example) you could read it to him and ask what his answer would be.

I don't think these kinds of things work in a "big discussion" setting. It's nice to have little bits of discussion over a span of time. You're also less likely to have him shut down.
Thanks, SarahW. If I read him something from a magazine that's sex related he'll blush or roll his eyes depending on his mood. If I ask him a question (not fro that book but sometimes as one of those magazine quizzes), he'll just say something like "oh, please, i can't talk about this." he's recorded some softcore movies on our DVR but whenever I've suggested watching them together he's looked at me like I have two horns. But he will also not delete them. I'm really confused.

but you're right. i don't think i'll get a wqord out of him if i set this up as a big discussion.
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