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9 questions to ask that will stump them

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I have to keep this one handy next time someone want to debate me! (including my 2 friends who work for big pharma and think I'm nuts)

http://www.medicalvoices.org/vaccina...ir-claims.html
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That is good, really good.
post #3 of 9
Interesting for sure.
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I'd like to discuss this please:



Every single study that has ever attempted to validate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has conclusively established carcinogenic, mutagenic, neurotoxic or fertility impairments, but they won't address those.



Are these results published? Hidden? There but simply ignored? I'd love more details on this if anyone has any info.

Thanks!
post #5 of 9
I have tried discussing this question:
"Could you please provide scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?"
and someone's defense was to provide me with one link from some pediatric journal describing how several vaccines lowered the incidence of some certain diseases... Can't even remember what it said because it was so clearly biased. They can provide "evidence," but I doubt it's much good. Numbers can be twisted and skewed to prove whatever the researcher wants. They can call mild cases of asceptic meningitis "polio" before the vaccine, and then call those same mild cases of asceptic meningitis "asceptic meningitis" after everyone got the vaccine. "What do you mean the polio vaccine wasn't highly effective? You must be some sort of nutty conspiracy theorist!"
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Originally Posted by emma1325 View Post
I'd like to discuss this please:



Every single study that has ever attempted to validate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has conclusively established carcinogenic, mutagenic, neurotoxic or fertility impairments, but they won't address those.



Are these results published? Hidden? There but simply ignored? I'd love more details on this if anyone has any info.

Thanks!
Dr. Andrew Wakefield is the one whose study on the link between autism/ bowel problems and the MMR shot was discredited. His name was totally marred by the medical community in his country and he was charged with unethical practices. It's dangerous for a doctor or researcher to speak the truth - there are people with a lot more power and money who don't want the public to lose trust in vaccines.
post #7 of 9
Try getting a whooping cough diagnosis in a vaccinated child or adult !

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Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
I have tried discussing this question:
"Could you please provide scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?"
and someone's defense was to provide me with one link from some pediatric journal describing how several vaccines lowered the incidence of some certain diseases... Can't even remember what it said because it was so clearly biased. They can provide "evidence," but I doubt it's much good. Numbers can be twisted and skewed to prove whatever the researcher wants. They can call mild cases of asceptic meningitis "polio" before the vaccine, and then call those same mild cases of asceptic meningitis "asceptic meningitis" after everyone got the vaccine. "What do you mean the polio vaccine wasn't highly effective? You must be some sort of nutty conspiracy theorist!"
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Originally Posted by emma1325 View Post
I'd like to discuss this please:



Every single study that has ever attempted to validate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has conclusively established carcinogenic, mutagenic, neurotoxic or fertility impairments, but they won't address those.



Are these results published? Hidden? There but simply ignored? I'd love more details on this if anyone has any info.

Thanks!
Yeah I would like to know too. I mean, it wouldn't surprise any of us for sure, but we'd like to see them out in the open. I'm sure it has been done. Was it covered up the way the tobacco companies tried to cover theirs? Where are they? (and does anyone really believe that NO studies have ever been done?)
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Originally Posted by emma1325 View Post
I'd like to discuss this please:



Every single study that has ever attempted to validate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has conclusively established carcinogenic, mutagenic, neurotoxic or fertility impairments, but they won't address those.



Are these results published? Hidden? There but simply ignored? I'd love more details on this if anyone has any info.

Thanks!

GARDASIL

Have a look at the Gardasil prescribing information. This is not the patient information leaflet but the medical professional's information.

Page 4: Clinical trials experience. There were six trials. Four using amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate as the 'placebo', one using saline, one uncontrolled.

So in four of the six trials, Gardasil was compared ONLY to the highly controversial adjuvant that's already one of the ingredients. Rather than directly compare Gardasil to an inert, harmless substance (saline solution) they compare it to a known poison that is also in Gardasil.

Page 5&6: Compares the tissue reaction at the site of injection. All kind of boring stuff. You jab a needle in someone's arm, there will be a reaction (Duh!). The three substances injected are compared in three columns.

The Gardasil and the amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate cause worse localised reactions than the saline but really, a sore arm is expected with a shot. Right? Three columns, three sets of numbers for each reaction...pain, redness, itchiness, bruisingZZZZzzzzzz... blah blah blah. Everyone's lost interest at this point and been lulled into a false sense of security.

Now look at all the tables on the following pages.

The ones with the life threatening conditions. The diseases. The auto immune disorders.

Magically, we only have two columns now. Gardasil versus the placebo. Why only two instead of three?

Simple.

Amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate is a toxic substance. It's in Gardasil. It causes illness. By combining the saline trail into the AAHS trail, it makes Gardasil reactions 'statistically insignificant' compared to the placebo trail, which if was actually the case, there would be a third column in every table with the inert saline results.

Obviously that would be impossible for Merck to do otherwise it would be obvious that the vaccine and the adjuvant in the vaccine cause 2.3% of those vaccinated to develop, well, a whole host of diseases.

Let's not even get started on the percentage of those vaccinated, who develop a life long auto immune disorder, life threatening disease or die as a result of the vaccination who without it, might have developed cervical cancer...a disease that's largely preventable, dignosable and treatable in the early stages.

Edited to add: Maybe someone else would like to search another vaccine's prescriber information leaflet for similar dishonesty. I'm too close to shrieking point!
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