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post #1 of 24
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Is it possible to have an oily scalp and dry hair at the same time? I don't wash my hair every day and I almost never blow it dry but I recently had it cut and the stylist told me that it's dry.

He did recommend the hydrating shampoo in the line that they sell (KMS) but I didn't even ask what it costs, I'm sure it's more than I want to pay.

He did say the Pantene I'm using (got it in bulk at BJ's) tends to be drying.

I've been alternating that with the moisturizing Herbal Essences (orchid and something or other in the blue bottle). I've read some online reviews that say it's a pretty good product (about 4 out of 5 stars). If I stick with that instead of alternating with the Pantene should that do the trick?

I should note I've been using both in DDs' hair and now that I think of it something seems to be damaging DD1's hair (DD2's is too short to tell). I just cut about 4 inches of DD1's hair to get rid of the fly aways.

What about Sauve Humectant? I've seen a couple of good reviews for that as well.

Oh, and what about a conditioner to go with it. I wouldn't necessarily assume that the conditioner intended to go with a particular shampoo is as good as the shampoo itself.

I should note that whatever I use for shampoo I almost always use Suave conditioner, whichever one is cheapest. I'm not sure that's the best long term strategy but it is a money saver.

It occurs to me that if the hair itself isn't dry and that I've just been using bad products then maybe I should be asking for a recommendation on a non-drying shampoo and/or conditioner for thin, oily hair.

Normally I wouldn't care too much but I'm in the midst of a job hunt and I just got it professionally cut and colored on the cheap (for the cost of the materials in exchange for acting as a model for a training session) so I'd like to maintain the look.

TIA for any input.

~Cath
post #2 of 24
A lot of times you can find good deals on shampoo/conditioner at chain salons- you can get a big bottle of each for 20 bucks or so. That's still a lot if you usually buy suave! When I buy cheap hair stuff, I often get the suave 'professional' line- they are knock offs of more expensive shampoo.

I think you should try the more expensive stuff for a while and see if you notice a difference.

Also- since you just had it colored- use a shampoo specifically made for color treated hair. I forgot to do this and my color fadeed really fast It was a salon color too
post #3 of 24
Have you ever tried Pert Plus? It's great for oily scalp. If it dries out your hair (it doesn't mine), then use the Aussie Go Deep Hair moisturizer every few days. Or a light spritzer of leave-in conditioner after every shower. And when you use conditioner, make sure you only put it on the ends of your hair.
post #4 of 24
Everything I've read and heard has said Pantene is bad for your hair.

The Suave Humectant works well.

So does Aussie's 3-minute miracle.
post #5 of 24
I've had good success with Aveeno shampoo - I also have oily skin/scalp with drier hair. It's $6.99 per bottle, which I view as moderately priced (more than store brand, less than salon).
post #6 of 24
If you have an Ulta store in your area, they often run specials on the higher end products.
post #7 of 24
What about a sulfate-free shampoo and conditioner like Giovanni? You might get more feedback in the Natural Home and Body subforum. I recognize you are looking for a frugal hair care solution, but as you sense it seems pennywise but pound foolish to not properly care for professionally dyed hair.

If your scalp is oily, but hair is dry, it probably is because the natural oils aren't making their way down the hair shaft. Your scalp is also probably over producing its oils since you are constantly stripping them out.

The most effective (and super frugal) hair conditioner is diluted apple cider vinegar, but I don't know if this is recommended for colored hair.
post #8 of 24
I was recommended Suave Naturals Conditioner for my curly dry hair... I wasn't so sure at first but it has worked well.
post #9 of 24
Personally, I will spend the money for good hair care products (shampoo and conditioner only, nothing else) and scrimp in other areas to make up the financial difference...often by searching out less expensive places to buy them without driving all over (gas can negate savings).

I used to have oily scalp and hair, then it went to oily scalp and dry hair when I bleached it beyond highlights (professionally done both times). I have fine hair that is weighed down easily by product. I started using salon quality products at that point and it made a huge difference for my hair. I never bleached my hair again, either. I added temporary color myself a few times, but that was a long time ago. I've only gotten professional haircuts since and no color products at all (professional or otherwise). My hair is in GREAT shape and has been for years now.

There are a number of products that work well for me (in no particular order, some are specifically formulated for color-treated hair even though I don't do that - they just work!):
Giovanni (tea tree shampoo and smooth as silk shampoo and 50/50 conditioner)
Bed Head/Tigi Self Absorbed (shampoo and conditioner)
Nature's Gate Organics Tea Tree & Blue Cypress (shampoo)
Nature's Gate (chamomile shampoo and herbal conditioner)
Rusk (purify shampoo and another shampoo or two and calm conditioner - haven't purchased in years, but they worked well and I liked them)
So Pure/Keune (hydrating shampoo and exfoliating shampoo)
Desert Essence Organics (fragrance-free conditioner - awesome stuff)
Back to Basics (pomegranate moisture conditioner - awesome stuff)
Save Your Hair (several shampoos and conditioners)
Sonoma Soap Co daily conditioner (LOVE THIS!)
California Baby Super Sensitive shampoo and bodywash (in one)

I find most of these products at a local discount store for a LOT LESS than the health food store sells them. I paid full price for the So Pure line at a local beauty supply store, which is less than buying it in a salon. Tigi products and Rusk products can be found in many places for less than regular retail. (I tend to get them in the 2 for $20 size when they run specials.) I paid full price in a mall salon for the Back to Basics conditioner and it was worth every penny (no -cones or sulfates in that specific one and it works really well; just a smidgen does amazing things).

Something I've been doing for about a year now that really seems to work well is mixing my shampoos into a separate small bottle to use in the shower. I change the exact "formula" each time and my hair responds very well. I tend to use mostly sulfate-free shampoos, but add a dollop of "regular" shampoo to each hand-mixed bottle for extra cleaning power. Once a week or less, I use an exfoliating shampoo. Once a week or more, I use conditioner only in place of shampoo (cheap conditioners work well: VO5 & White Rain).

I also mix my own conditioner. This is what started it actually. I am too frugal to throw out products that don't work, so I mix the less effective conditioners with very effective conditioners and WOW! It stretches the effective ones (frugally) and greatly enhances the effectiveness of the ones that were too wimpy. And, I have been using more conditioner than usual and it has made a big difference. I used to just dab the ends thinking my oily hair didn't need much conditioner. Ha! Turns out, it was making things worse because the scalp was over-producing to compensate for the middle of my hair being drier than the scalp and ends...what a mess. Conditioning my whole head (lighter on top, but still using it everywhere) has created "normal" hair for me. Shampooing with gentler, mostly sulfate-free, shampoos has also created "normal" hair. Stripping and then replacing didn't work as well as I would have liked.
post #10 of 24
The best shampoo I have EVER used (and I have used them all) is Paul Mitchell original. It's maybe $12-$14.
Be sure and only wash your roots, the ends get washed when you rinse.
post #11 of 24
If you're happy with your hair I would stick with your routine... it might have just been a suggestion to get you to buy their product.
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by HappyMonkey View Post
If you're happy with your hair I would stick with your routine... it might have just been a suggestion to get you to buy their product.
Totally.

And I love shampoo made for kids. It seems much gentler. And I do well with using a very small amount of whatever it is that use.
post #13 of 24
Honestly, the best thing I ever did for my hair was switching from shampoo/conditioner to BS/vinegar. My curly hair has never been healthier, and whereas before I HAD to wash my hair every other day AT LEAST because of oily scalp, I can (and do) go 5-6 days now without washing. And the frizzies and flyaways are all but gone.
post #14 of 24
We like this, use only a nickle size amount and wash ONLY the roots of your hair, then rinse and repeat, and then apply then squeeze all of the excess water that you can out of your hair and apply the conditioner to the ends. Hope that helps some.
post #15 of 24
You can do conditioner only, I like Sauve naturals ($1.50) & alternate that with Hair One ($10.99), only available from Sally Beauty Supply. It is a knock off of the infomercial cleansing conditioner Wen, I like the olive oil one. If you do decide to go with conditioner only make sure it is silecone free, look at the ingredients & avoid anything taht ends in cone! Good luck!
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by cristeen View Post
Honestly, the best thing I ever did for my hair was switching from shampoo/conditioner to BS/vinegar. My curly hair has never been healthier, and whereas before I HAD to wash my hair every other day AT LEAST because of oily scalp, I can (and do) go 5-6 days now without washing. And the frizzies and flyaways are all but gone.
LOL, this is the absolute worse thing I ever did to my hair. Seriously Barbie dolls had better hair than mine, it was literally like straw. I once used "sun in" on my hair in highschool and it was awful, the damage was just terrible, seriously the BS/ vinegar was way worse than the "sun in" ever was.
post #17 of 24
I've been using this for about 9 years and am very happy with it. I get the shampoo and the conditioner.

http://www.natures-gate.com/shop/sho...g=1&MenuID=137

That said, if it is worth it to you, I'd splurge on my haircare products and cut back somewhere else if you find something you really like.

I also agree that the stylist might be trying to get you to switch to their products.

When I used to blowdry and style my hair a lot and serious damage was an issue, I used to give myself hot oil treatments using warmed olive oil. My hair always looked great.
post #18 of 24
pantene is crap, true, but the stylist would have told you that no matter the brand just to get a piece of retail commision out of you.

my faves are giovanni magnetic and anything from jason naturals. i buy online to save $. once a month or so, i dump baking soda out on my soapy head and scrub then rinse, soak my hair in raw AVC, add conditioner on top, brush my teeth (i brush in the shower alot) and then rinse. my hair is naturally curly, but 6 mos ago i had the caribbean dream permenant straightener done so i could take a break form blow drying and ironing.

oh, and a PP already said this, but i second the notion that an oily scalp but dry hair means it may be time to invest in a natural bristle brush (assuming youre not vegan) and spend a good 5-10 mins a day brushing the oils down to the ends.

so whatever product you decide to try...dont apply shampoo directly to your ends and dont apply conditioner near the scalp

ETA: i spent many years as a licensed cosmetologist til my health took a dive and i needed a sit down job
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by HappyMonkey View Post
If you're happy with your hair I would stick with your routine... it might have just been a suggestion to get you to buy their product.
As a hairstylist I totally agree, I mean we make more money off commission of product, it's an up-sell. Now that we are totally broke and I'm a SAHM I've found that for myself many drugstore products are just as good as many professional products. Pantene does suck though, but they make a hair mask that works very well-I just hate Pantene fragarance-ewwww.

I have naturally wavy hair after both of my pregnancies(it used to be stick straight), and I've found that Garnier works magically for my hair. I also have to say Aussie 3 minute miracle is awesome, I'm using that with their moisturizing shampoo and my hair is fine.

My fave conditioner ever, Humectress by Nexxus, you can get it just about anywhere now. Smells great and works amazingly.

Oh and kids shampoo is not formulated for color treated hair, it will strip your color.
post #20 of 24
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My fave conditioner ever, Humectress by Nexxus, you can get it just about anywhere now. Smells great and works amazingly.

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Nexxus changed their formulation for Humectress. It sucks now. It's slimy and smells gross. I don't know why they would change it, it was the greatest thing ever.
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