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My first "All Mine" garden! - pictures in post 18!

post #1 of 23
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I'm so very excited! I grew up with huge gardens, but I've never had one that was completely of my design, my choice of vegetables, and completely my responsibility. Hooray!

I'm starting out with a rectangular plot. There will be four varieties of heirloom tomatoes running in two rows from north to south taking up the entire west side of the garden area, with a total of 20 plants. I plan on using the Florida weave staking technique.

I've built two 4 feet by 4 feet raised beds, and have placed those in the south-east corner. I have very limited time to work on this, so I just got the garden tilled, leveled the box area as well as I could, and put the boxes directly on top of the regular soil (I do have good soil to start with), and then filled the box with organic top soil and organic peat. I would have rather had the time to sift the soil and do the rest of the stuff talked about in the SFG book, but I have a 2 year old and another on the way, and I'm doing this all myself, so I just don't have time. I've read that I can continue to build the soil from "the top down", so that is what I'm hoping will work for me!

One of those beds (the northern one) will be a modified three-sisters planting, with corn, beans, and squash. The squash will all be in a row on the eastern side of the bed, and will go up a cattle panel trellis, which will end outside of the garden (arching over the exterior walkway). The corn and beans will be in the remaining 3x4 space, intermixed to replace nitrogen for next year's crop. The southern bed will contain lettuce, carrots, eggplant, cucumbers, and potatoes. The cucumbers will take the southern row, and will also follow a cattle panel over the walkway and out of the garden.

Three more cattle panel trellis will be installed around the property (I have 3 acres), and each one will have it's own type of melon. Two trellis will have watermelons, and one will have a breakfast melon (for lack of a better term).

In the north east corner, there is a large, un-tillable (? well, that is what the guy who tilled it said - he said there were too many rocks) area, and it was only tilled down about 2-3 inches. I'm going to plant that entire area with Bee's Friend flowers, picking out the rocks as I go. I'm planning to save those seeds from this year, and then cover crop half of that area with winter rye. Then, next spring, I'll try to till the winter rye area under again, but leave half the area to replant the Bee's Friend flowers. I hope to eventually put three more 4x4 boxes in the north east side, and move the Bee's flowers to outside the garden area. Additionally, I'm hoping to build a top-bar hive this winter, and get a swarm of honeybees next spring to help pollination.

Finally, I'm keeping an eye out for a bottomless metal water trough to use for my compost bin.

Here's a list of what I'm growing. All of them are heirloom, and I got all of them from Seed Savers.

Bean -Climbing French
Carrot -Dragon
Corn -Country Gentleman
Cucumber -Snow's Fancy
Eggplant -Listada de Gandia
Lettuce -SSE Lettuce Mixture
Melon -Emerald Gem
Tomato -Hillbilly Potato Leaf
Tomato -Kellog's Breakfast
Tomato -Cherokee Purple
Tomato -Gold Medal
Watermelon -Blacktail Mountain
Watermelon -Criss Cross
Zucchini-Green -Black Beauty
Zucchini-Yellow -Golden Zucchini

Ok, that was a really long post. I'm so excited to get this going, and I hope to post lots of pictures to document the progress!

Has anyone used cattle panel trellis before?
post #2 of 23
I never used the cattle panel.Just wanted to say all that you have done and are doing is great! I hope you will post pictures as the gardens progress.
post #3 of 23
I have my grapes on a cattle panel arch over my MIL's front door. We used 2 panels. I have my squash growing up hog panels this year (does that count?). I am putting a cattle panel arch from one of my freezer beds and attaching it to the edge of my asparagus bed and growing pie pumpkins on it.

Your ideas sound great! I'm sure you can imagine I'd be interested in the Bee's Friend flowers. Gotta link handy?
post #4 of 23
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Here is the link to the Bee's Friends flower seeds!

On the cattle panel where you used two panels, did you place them end to end, to make them 32 feet long, or did you place them side by side to make them 8 feet wide?

We just got a TON of rain this weekend. I'm worried that all my little carrot and lettuce seeds have floated away. Unfortunately, there's no way of knowing until it's time for them to come up. Bummer!

I've been trying to figure out the easiest and cheapest way to mulch the walkways in my garden. Additionally, I want it to be easily removable, since I'm not done putting the 4x4 blocks in. So, I'm thinking of using some outdoor carpet. Preferably, found on Craigslist for free.
post #5 of 23
Thanks for the link.

I used carpet (turned upside down) all around my garden beds. Works REALLY well. And you don't ever have to get muddy while working in your garden.

We put the panels end to end, but overlapped somewhat. I'll take a pic.
post #6 of 23
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So, I was going to do the Florida weave, but I changed my mind. I'm not sure that it's going to give me the option to not have to spend a lot of time dealing with trellising.

So, then I was planning on using two cattle panels, one parallel to the other, as a vertical wall for my tomatoes. However, that meant I would need 10-foot t-posts, and the whole contraption would end up at least 8 feet tall. That would make harvesting very difficult, not to mention it would require a lot more in-ground support to go that tall. It would also require the use of three rows, 16 feet long each.

I have 20 heirloom (indeterminate) tomato plants to support.

Then, I got the bright idea of putting the tomatoes in two rows of 10, but joining each set of four plants with one cattle panel arch, with the arch going over the walkway. This would make the rows longer than 16 feet, but the garden would look much less cramped.

I think it will have the added benefit of giving me a very shady spot underneath this archway to extend the lettuce, carrot, and spinach season! Haha! A new excuse to get more seeds!!!

Here's a link to a picture that shows what it will look like.
post #7 of 23
It sounds like it will be amazing, and very practical. That link, however, takes me to a picture of a tractor, lol.

I think I may use that same principle in my garden. I was worrying that my field fencing/tpost trellis wouldn't be nearly tall enough (only 6 ft tposts). I may just attach a panel to the top of my trellis and then just slant it over (sideways and longways, not curved) my walkway between my toms and my asparagus patch, and attach it to the fence by the asparagus. It'll look kinda funky, but once it's covered in tomatoes (and my asparagus beans and cukes will probably go that far, too) it'll be pretty. And it may be a bit short for me, but the kiddos can harvest those!
post #8 of 23
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Ok, let's try this?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/a...s-img_3000.jpg

I'm in the very happy position of starting from scratch. So, I get to set it up however strikes me as best. Also, I'm lucky that I have plenty of room to expand the garden area in future seasons.

Chicky, it sounds like a slanty lean-to. Is that right? I bet the little ones will love having a little garden fort! Cool!
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by DirtRoadMama View Post
Ok, let's try this?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/a...s-img_3000.jpg

I'm in the very happy position of starting from scratch. So, I get to set it up however strikes me as best. Also, I'm lucky that I have plenty of room to expand the garden area in future seasons.

Chicky, it sounds like a slanty lean-to. Is that right? I bet the little ones will love having a little garden fort! Cool!
Nope, still a tractor, lol.

I just started from scratch, too, but didn't think about how tall properly pruned indeterminate tomatoes will get. I've always heard of tomatoes getting really tall, but mine never did. Now I know. So, yeah, a slanty lean-to is exactly what I was thinking. And yeah, they will love it!
post #10 of 23
Thread Starter 
forums/attachments/rural-living/129682d1242269495-greenbean-trellis-img_3000.jpg

Ok, let's get around this squirrley little thing!!!! Copy the above, then click on the link from the prior post. Then, at the end of that address, paste this onto it.

Please tell me that works!!! I'm running out of ideas!
post #11 of 23
Ok, I think I got it!

Click!

Looks interesting! Is the link working? Now when I click on the previous link it shows what i want to see...
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by HeatherAtHome View Post
Ok, I think I got it!

Click!

Looks interesting! Is the link working? Now when I click on the previous link it shows what i want to see...
Now the old links work for me, too! WEIRD.

Very neat. I'll have to build one next year.
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hey, thanks ya'll! I was having a heck of a time with that silly link!

I've been working on installing those trellisii (haha!), and for some reason I forgot that I know how to make a straight line for building things. So I was trying to do it without guides to map out my path, and it was getting all wonky and wavy and very amateurish looking. I was not pleased. Then, I remembered that I know how to lay out a straight line, got out my re-bar and fluorescent string, and mapped out my garden. I even went ahead and mapped out that part that I'm planning on putting in more boxes next year. I have a 4 foot by 20 foot space that isn't obligated to anything! Yikes!

What do you think of, instead of trying the three sisters in a 4x4 box, how about putting them in this 4x20 area? The only other thing I can think to do with it is to plant it over with an annual wildflower mix. I'd have to make sure it's not a reseeding variety, though.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, I did get one trellis up, and the space from one side of the trellis to the other is 5 feet, and it is over 6 feet tall. When I was trying to find some information on how tall the thing would be in relation to its footprint, I came up with nothing, so I thought I'd mention it here.

Hmmm, oh, yes! Last night, I also repotted the 10 tomato seedlings that I grew. The 10 that came in the mail (much farther along than mine) seem to be doing well.

The forecast is calling for 4 days of rain, so if that happens, not much of anything will be happening for my garden. Bummer!!!
post #14 of 23
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I was finally getting around to reading my Mother Earth magazine from February, and they had this article.

So, I'll be growing spring wheat in that 4x20ish space! Hooray! I'm excited to try something unusual, and I'll have wheat straw for mulching. Bonus! Then, I can put in some winter wheat, and then follow that with oats next year. It will save putting in more boxes (let's face it, I'll have two little ones that year, and I don't think I can manage all of that plus 2-4 more 4x4 boxes), plus it will supply me with mulch, plus it will keep the soil occupied! Has anyone grown their own spring wheat before?

I'm going to keep my three sisters in the square foot gardening box. Honestly, I don't eat that much corn or green beans, so it's more an experiment than a necessary food item (like my tomatoes are). I don't want to convert over to row cropping before even giving SFG an honest try!
post #15 of 23
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A quick update of what was done this weekend!

I finished installing all of the posts for the tomato trellisii (I think it's supposed to be "trelises", but trellisii is so much more fun!). I laid down the black plastic weed film over all of the walkways, and down one outside edge. I filled the second (and last for this year) 4x4 box with 8 bags of topsoil and one bag of peat, and covered it with the now-empty soil bags to keep some of the rain off. I also surrounded that bed with a mini-cage of chicken wire to keep the animals off.

This week, I'm going to get some more fabric staples so I can put down the rest of the plastic. I'm also going to put the actual cattle panels in place for the tomato trellisii. I have to finalize the decision on where to put the melon trellisii, and the trellisii for the 4x4 boxes need to be installed. All of those will be faster than the tomato ones, because those won't be in a straight line. Finally, it's time to get all those little seedlings into the ground!

Hooray!
post #16 of 23
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It's been a busy two nights! I got all of the tomato cattle panels in place, and installed one of the 4x4 box's trellis, including the cattle panel. It really is possible to install those suckers by yourself!

I transplanted 4 yellow squash and 2 zucchini last night, and also put 36 corn seeds. After 1 or 2 weeks (depending on how fast the corn grows) I'll put in the corn's companion, the climbing green bean. Of the 5 zucchini I started indoors, only 2 of them sprouted. I replanted the other 3, and I hope they germinate soon. If not, I'll just direct sow outside sometime next week, and hope for a staggered harvest.

I also stapled the chicken wire to the 4x4 box, around the bottom, to try to keep the little critters from carrying off my corn seeds.

It's really fun to see all of my progress in one place. I'm hoping to get some pictures really soon. Unfortunately, the time I usually have to work on my garden is when there's only 30-45 minutes of daylight left, and then twilight, and then I'm out there with a flashlight. So, I haven't wanted to use any of my daylight to take pictures, even though, rationally, I know it would only take about 3 minutes. Hmmm. I guess I just need to do it!!!
post #17 of 23
Wow, you've been getting tons done! Good for you! I'd love to see pics!
post #18 of 23
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You asked for it... you got it! I finally got some pictures loaded to my flickr!
post #19 of 23
Looks great!
post #20 of 23
I looked yesterday and forgot to comment! I love the trellis!
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