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post #1 of 42
Thread Starter 
I'm starting this thread as a place to share stories about times when we felt humbled by our birthing experiences. Stories about any aspect of labor/delivery and immediate post partum (early infant bonding, first latch, etc) are welcome. Moments of humility imbedded in an otherwise triumphant birth story are welcome, as well as as humility arrived at from a larger sense of diasppointed ideals, or anything else.

This is a forum for sharing your personal experience and your thoughts & feelings about that experience. Please park your soap box at the door.

This is a forum about humility, not humiliation. The way I see the difference, humility is a profound insight that you arrive at on your own; humiliation is a sense of belittlement or degradation that is thrust at you from outside. Humiliation is unfortunately a feature of some of our birth stories, and I'm not asking anyone to re-live that here. I'm hoping we can keep this forum focused on humility--our transformative self-awareness of being humbled by our experience. I'm also hoping we can avoid turning this into "most embarassing birth moments."

Humility is in the eye of the beholder. This is not a place to question the truth of someone else's story, offer alternate interpretations of events, or speculate about what could have been done to create a different outcome. Nor is it a place to engage in humility oneupmanship (onedownmanship? i.e. "You think that's humbling?! I'll show you humbling!!").

This is a place for sharing and listening.

Thanks in advance for being present.
post #2 of 42
Thread Starter 
I'll jump in by offering a story of my own to get us started.

It was 4:30 am on the 2nd night of my labor, I had been pushing for 3 hours, and now we were starting to talk about next steps because it was clear that things weren't moving. The resident thought that maybe vacuum extraction was a possibility, but then the OB came in and said that it wasn't.

(His exact words were "We could try vaccuum extraction, but you'd never be the same again." And I remember thinking, "Dude, I'm never going to be the same again no matter what. This is birth." But I kept that thought to myself.)

The OB said that he would support me in continuing to labor if I wanted, but that he wanted me to consider a c-section as an option. I asked the hospital staff to leave the room so that my partner & our doula could have a private moment to talk about options. So the nurse, the resident, and the OB left the room.

As soon as they shut the door, I burst into tears and wailed "Why can't it be enough?" I had started labor when my water broke 32 hours earlier, and I had initially felt such a sense of exhiliration, so ready to embrace the whole thing. Now I felt stuck in a nightmare, though I couldn't pinpoint the exact moment when things had changed. It seemed impossible that all my efforts had come to this.

During my late pregnancy and leading up to labor, I had been aware of a slight feeling of sadness about letting go of being pregnant. I knew that this was a one-time experience for me and that I wouldn't get pregnant again; that if I had other children, they would come to me in a different way. Pregnancy felt like such a state of grace to me. I just never got over a sense that a miracle was taking place in my body, and I LOVED feeling so close and connected with my baby.

And yet of course pregnancy can't last forever, and parts of me were ready to be done with it, and I was very, very eager to meet my baby on the outside and to begin our journey together as two separate beings. And it seemed like an unmedicated, vaginal birth would provide a cathartic release that would carry me through that little sadness of saying goodbye to the pregnancy.

But here I was on my back with an epidural in a labor that had stalled, stalled, stalled.

Here's where my humbling moment comes in. When the doctor offered c-section, I was overcome with a huge wave of grief, but it was equally co-mingled with relief, which is the last thing I expected to feel with regards to a c-section. I was just so relieved that there was another way out. Because the truth is, my baby felt as securely lodged in my body as it had when the water had broken 32 hours earlier. No part of me felt like my baby was about to emerge into the world. I had given everything that I had to give to my labor, and I just didn't have anything left except my profound desire to hold my baby in my arms.

So I called the doctor back into the room, and I said, "Let's do the c-section." And my baby was born, and I was born as a mother.
post #3 of 42
My first birth resulted in c/s. There were many personal speculations on my part about what went "wrong" but rather than dwelling on the past I chose to throw myself into my next birth wholeheartedly. My only realistic option was a HBAC as the local hospitals had a VBAC ban. I was 100% confident in my bodies ability as were my midwives. The thought of another c/s never even entered my mind. Nor did I prepare for it, by packing a transfer bag. Superstitiously I (and some of my fellow DDC'ers) figured if I packed a bag it would mean that I am entertaining the thought of not having my HBAC. I read books, read only positive birth stories, felt a bit smug, attended the local Orgasmic Birth showing.....and fully envisioned my perfect labor and birth.

Fast forward to my labor......everything was progressing perfectly. I had a quick labor as compared to my first and was complete within 7-8 hours. Laboring at home was every bit as amazing as I had read. The birth pool, the comfort of my own home, the quiet support of my midwives at my side. The urge to push so strong. I even had the priviledge of feeling my babies head, half a fingers length inside me. I was pumped to do this. Pushed for an hour, two, three. Midwife said- feel your babies head. I did and it hadn't budged. I started to feel the shred of doubt enter my mind. I remember the complete silence in between my ctx. As another ctx started and I began to push I could hear the video camera open and my aunt and mother whispering- this one is it. Ctx after ctx this happened and in my mind I was screaming at them to stop. This wasn't it. Its not going to happen.

My big humbling moment- Midwife did one last check. It had been 5 hours of pushing and she had me sit on my husbands lap, facing him, with my bottom hanging down and she declared that my baby was not going to fit through my pelvic arch. Despite my best efforts. I felt crushed. The transfer to the hospital was so humbling. The pain which was fairly manageable at this point was no longer productive and I could barely handle it. At the hospital they gave me shots to stop my ctx but they didn't work. I found out later that a lot of my family had assembled at the hospital waiting for me. I was wheeled past them on a gurney on my hands and knees screaming. Talk about humbling. Here I was confident in my HBAC and there I was being wheeled into surgery. As I was being cut open the doctors talked about everyday life. Actually they were speking of a patient who'd had an abortion. Excellent topic while i was birthing my second baby into the world.
post #4 of 42
I'll becoming back to post my ds2 story - I think I'm finally ready to tell it.
post #5 of 42
A humble beginning for me was that during our natural childbirth class - all 8 weeks of it - I felt like I knew so much already, whereas other expectant mothers asked a ton of questions. I wondered why we were even there. Maybe b/c I grew up surrounded by birth with a mom who was a L&D nurse, then the nurse manager of L&D and mother & baby, then she went on to become a CNM, plus I read, read, read about birth and felt super educated. Anyway, in my mind, everything was going to go smoothly, and of course, I would have a drug-free childbirth.

Sooo, during our childbirth class (which, btw, we only signed up for b/c it was at my mom's hospital - so it was free and she encouraged us to take it), I completely spaced out during the portion about c-sections. The instructor was very clear in the beginning that the chances were that we wouldn't have to undergo one, but just in case, this was the procedure and what to be prepared for, how to recover quickly, etc. I honestly tuned it all out at that point, because I figured it was of no need to me to even understand the surgery, b/c of course it would never be something I would ever endure.

Well, you know, 4 c-sections later I would say that it was humbling, especially for the first one, after 36+ hours of labor and wanting nothing more but to push my baby out, to end up on that OR table.

The good thing about it (besides my beautiful DD ) was that my introduction to motherhood was that you should never say never, and that a lot of things are truly out of your control.


ETA: Hey, CI Mama - I just wanted to say I'm glad you found MDC.
post #6 of 42
Thanks for this topic.

My humbling experience has to do with newborn care. Prior to my son's birth, I had had virtually no previous experience with newborns. I had held friends' babies when they were older, and had helped care for nieces and nephews, but didn't really know what to expect with a newborn. Essentially, I assumed that I would be able to meet my baby's needs. I had been good at "reading" the needs of other children in the family, bonded easily with children in general, and was the kind of person who attracted stray cats to my door. I knew there was a possibility that this belief was naive, but I just had no idea how far it was from reality.

My son was a "colicky" baby. He cried for hours on end for unexplained reasons. We asked our doctor at his first check-up if it was normal for a baby to always be either asleep or crying. We tried everything we could think of, then asked for help from friends with babies. No one had had an experience like ours. We then turned to books and the internet, and finally found forums where people described babies like ours. Still, things that worked only worked for a few minutes, and the crying continued.

Eventually, I eliminated dairy from my diet, and he seems to have had a sensitivity to milk protein. This helped, but he has still always had a very strong reaction to discomfort and is very loud about it. Now he's old enough that I can understand and respond to his needs, but it was very humbling as a new mother to hear my son cry and not be able to fix it.
post #7 of 42
For me personally it has been incredibly humbling to feel/experience the difference between direct posterior birth and an anterior birth. Extreme pain vs. intense but easy in comparison. But my body still worked and the babies came out.

It has taught me that courage isn't about not being afraid...but rather about deciding that even if history repeats itself it will be worth doing anyway. That's really tough to accept.
post #8 of 42
Throughout my first pregnancy I rolled my eyes and poo pooed any stories I heard of women too timid or intimidated to stand up for themselves, their bodies and their babies.

I was arrogant and thought, "Why WOULDN'T you say something, geesh!"

Then it happened to me. I was pressured, intimidated and so convinced of my 'incompetence' when it came to birthing my baby that once he was out and in my arms I was still dazed.
A half hour later my MIL finally said, "Well have you looked at him yet?!" (He was swaddled tightly) and I just kind of mumbled meekly, "Uh, no.." and she said, "He's YOURS. You can do what YOU want. He's YOURS. Look at him and touch him!"

I literally had to have someone point out that he belonged to me and I was responsible for him and knew best, not the hospital or nurses. I was so scared and felt very small because of how I'd been treated beforehand that I felt inadequate and wasn't sure if I was 'allowed' to do certain things.

I came out stronger. Now I know more and can and will stand up for myself. I'm also more compassionate for others who have gone through similar situations instead of being snotty and thinking they're being silly.

I was definitely humbled by my son's birth. Thank the heavens for that.
post #9 of 42
My second birth was very humbling, I'll be back later when I have more time to post about. Thanks to everyone who's posted so far.
post #10 of 42
DD2 was a precipitous birth. I was humbled by the fact that even if everything does turn out "perfectly" (uncomplicated vaginal birth resulting in healthy baby) that doesn't mean you have any control over it or should plan obsessively for it. I had music playlists, I had a list of things for DH to do before the midwives showed up, I'd made chocolate covered strawberries and had a bottle of champagne ready...so many little things. In the end, I yelled, "Why do you keep leaving me? STOP LEAVING ME!" when DH came to check on me in between taking care of my "labor to do list", I was too - I dunno - shell shocked to remember strawberries or champagne when it was all over with, pushing happened so fast and was so intense I didn't even remember to have DH go ask DD if she wanted to see the birth, we have almost no pictures because who the hell remembers pictures when you just gave birth in 52 minutes from first "real" contraction to baby in arms and dimming the lights to relax and listen to my calming music was the LAST thing on my mind amidst the awful pain that was that ridiculously short labor. I didn't even really see her being born, because I was leaning back in the bathtub, which is a pretty stupid position for birthing, but who thinks about that when they feel like they're being butchered anyway?

I knew ahead of time I'd be "in control" and that I'd deal well with the pain, just like I had for DD1's short, but not that short, labor. HA! Pain in labor has a lot to do with relaxing through it, at least for me, and I personally could not relax through what happened in those most intense 52 minutes of my life. So I felt like I was out of control and screaming like a banshee for the last 25 of them. (DH says I wasn't actually screaming, but I'm not sure about that.) All of that was very humbling for me. And I learned that birth is just birth. Yes, it's amazing and joyful and wonderful, but it's not this big thing that should take up so much of our mental energy. It should be respectful. As long as it is, the rest doesn't matter.
post #11 of 42
After more than 50 hours of labor when contractions finally got really intense I was totally humbled by how intense they could be. I had not slept much in 2 nights and I had thought that they were intense when I finally reached 10 cm. Boy was I wrong!!! I, the one committed to an HBAC, made the CHOICE to transfer to the hospital for pain relief after my midwife expressed concern about a cervical lip and proposed a time limit on laboring at home further. I wanted to throw myself out of the car onto the highway and end it all because of the pain on the way to the hospital and when there I crawled around the floor in front of the admitting desk and begged for pain relief. 58 hours after my first contractions Logan was born by vbac, thank goodness, but even with a partial epidural it was the hardest most intense and almost the most painful experience of my life. (the most painful was a fundal massage after my c-section). I think in the future I will do more in prep for pain management. I did enjoy that I had prepared for a potential transfer and had a bag packed with all of my medical records. (that was the humbling experience from my first birth, I had not anticipated a precipitous transfer and had no bag packed).

Now I know why my mom broke my dad's fingers during one of her births.
post #12 of 42
When I was pregnant I thought c-sections could be neatly filed into two distinct categories. Necessary, emergency situations that were pretty much unavoidable, and ones that could have been avoided if mom had mom only done the "right" things. I would hear things about the struggles women would go through to get vbac support, and bans, and think.. too bad those women had to learn the hard way, and thank goodness I'll never have to deal with that! I'm doing everything right. I'm smart enough to avoid a c-section. I have a midwife, homebirthing, I do prenatal yoga every week, I've had a perfect healthy pregnancy, hypnobirthing classes, positive visualization of peacefully pushing my baby out in our bath tub, reading lots of positive birth stories, hired a doula, reading pro-natural childbirth books like ina may's guide, I mean, I really thought I had myself covered!

Then I had a c-section. Sometimes birth is just a crapshoot.
post #13 of 42
There was a moment in my second hour of pushing where I thought "I don't care anymore let's just knock me out and cut it out." It was just luck that I was at home instead of a place where that wish could have happened. I was physically and mentally broken down by the power of birth. It knocked the holier-than-thou right out of me. I'm glad about that.
post #14 of 42
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I was physically and mentally broken down by the power of birth. It knocked the holier-than-thou right out of me. I'm glad about that.
post #15 of 42
Thread Starter 
Thank you for sharing! These are amazing stories.

Did I mention that the OB on call who offered the c-section was named Dr. Wait? Why couldn't I have I gotten Dr. Getonwithit??

post #16 of 42
For our first, DH and I worked hard on learning about natural birth, how to avoid sections. We were well educated. What we weren't prepared for was a 72 hour, posterior labor that was insanely painful, that I couldn't relax through, and that didn't progress. I ended up with a epi and pic after 7 hours of transition. He came out vaginally, but with much physical and emotional trauma on my part, he was fine. I tried my best to do everything right, but it still wasn't a picture perfect birth.

For our second we went deeper into natural birthing and discovered Ina May Gaskin and I thought we figured out all of my "mistakes." I learned how to relax through the most intense pain. things would be different.

At 37 weeks we found out our bundle of joy was breech. I tried everything, and he remained breech. No one in my area would take me for a breech birth, and even Ina May at The Farm wouldn't take me because of the baby's size.

I was told many times I could do it at home, and maybe I could have, but there was something within me saying not to. I listened to my intuition, and very sadly had a section.

I so badly wanted to have a trial of labor at the hospital but it wasn't an option.

Through the recent discussions here I am starting to realize that birth is sometimes out of your hands, sometimes it's a crapshoot.

I'm expecting again and this time I'm not aiming for perfection, just a bit of peace where I will be heard and respected. This is what my intuition is saying - go with the flow, use your heart and knowledge, and feel at peace.
post #17 of 42
My first birth, I was 18 and knew nothing about pregnancy, or birth, or breastfeeding. I happily got induced at 41 weeks with cytotec. Crappy labor that accomplished nothing, and I wound up with a c/s for fetal distress and ftp (never dilated. At all. In 9 hours of labor). Honestly it never bothered me until I started getting in to the NCB community. And while I definitely regret my willful ignorance regarding pregnancy and birth, I also regret letting other people me feel so horribly about my c/s. When I got pregnant again 3.5 years later, we planned to birth at a birthing center with a cnm. At 20 weeks pregnant, the bc decided they weren't going to do vbacs at the center anymore, and wanted to transfer me to the hospital. I was crushed. I bawled like a baby the whoe 1.5 drive home. It had pretty much been beaten into my head that vbac in a hospital was impossible.

I got the name and number of a homebirth midwife. Dh was really resistant but I basically forced him into it. I did everything "right." I ate my brewer diet and walked a mile a day, I did visualizations (I believed so strongly in them that I was terrified to even think too much about the actual birth visualizations because I was convinced I would put myself into preterm labor). I read all the books and didn't even bother to make a birth plan "just in case" I had to go to the hospital, because that violated the whole concept of positive thinking! I wasn't going to "try" to have a homebirth, I WAS going to have one. I really looked down on women who had hospital births, especially "failed" vbacs with pity and even contempt, honestly, because they were "doing it wrong." They were uneducated and weak and it never, ever occured to me that that could be me again.

Everything seemed okay, other than the fact that my fundus never went over 36/37, even though I went 11 days "overdue." But baby seemed low in my pelvis and everything else looked fine, so the midwife wasn't concerned (big mistake). The first day of labor was really prodromal, irregular contractions. They were regular by the second day, but SO painful I could barely handle it. I spent most of the time in the birth tub crying. I was progressing very, very slowly, so the midwife had us take bumpy car rides over our country roads. It was horrible, every time we hit a bump while I was having a contraction my whole body would seize and all I could do was scream. The baby was posterior and asynclitic and it was so, so horribly painful. The midwife had me on my hands and knees trying to turn her. She did turn some and then it wasn't so painful, but by then I was so exhausted I just couldn't do it anymore. I just hung off the side of the birth tub and fell asleep in between contractions. I remember her checking me at one point and saying I was at 7cm and transition should only take about an hour. Well, 5 hours later I was at 8cm and labor was stalling out. My contractions went very irregular and up to 20 minutes apart. The baby's heart started dropping and the mw said I needed to transfer. The local hospital was full so we had to drive 45 minutes to another one.

The l&d nurse was awful. She was mean and rough. They put me on the monitors and her heart rate was awful. I was only having one or two contractions an hour by that point (and I had been in labor nearly 72 hours by the time I got to the hospital). So they did another c/s and as soon as she was born she started having seizures. Her one minute apgar was 1 and they took back to the NICU immediately. (The ob was a jerk but the anesthisologist was very kind, I was really glad to have him there).

So long story short she had had a massive stroke at some point in the pregnancy and it left her severely brain damaged (about 50% of her brain mass was completely dead). With how far gone the dead areas were, they figured she could have had it as much as a month before birth, which is probably why my fundal height stayed small (she was only 6.10 at 11 days over due, dd1 had been 8.9 7 days over). It was horrible and heartbreaking and so unfair I could barely stand it. It was even worse when I had people that I thought I could count on questioning me and treating me like I had shamed the whole NCB community by "failing" to have a hbac.

But humbling, yeah. It doesn't get much more humble than being told your newborn might be a vegetable her whole life, assuming she doesn't die first.

It was a hard lesson in the fact that there's no such thing as "control" over birth and that mother nature doesn't give a shit about me or my baby. I learned that advocating for myself and my baby also means standing up against people I otherwise agree with. So when I was planning a hospital vba2c with an ob with the next baby, I was able to shrug off the "you'll never have a vba2c in the hospital" crap and have a great birth. It wasn't "perfect" by the strictest standards of natural birth, but it was MY birth and it was great. And really, that birth humbled me again, because I realized I was still holding to this fantasy that a vaginal birth would "fix" something, would make me somehow "more"...more of a mother, more of a woman, whatever. And it didn't. It was great and I felt fantastic physically, but I didn't love my vba2c baby more than my c/s babies, I didn't bond to her better or faster, I didn't magically morph into some amazing birth goddess. I guess I realized that it's becoming a mother itself that's transformative, not necessarily the process of birth itself.

My birth experiences have really made me a much more humble, understanding person. I don't judge moms when they talk about their birth experiences any more, I believe them and support them.
post #18 of 42
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My birth experiences have really made me a much more humble, understanding person. I don't judge moms when they talk about their birth experiences any more, I believe them and support them.
I hate that you had to go through all that.

I suspect that women in "olden times" were pretty humble about birth. Experiences like yours were probably not uncommon, and there were no medical interventions, so they probably had few illusions going into it.

On a side note, I had a bit of glowy feeling about The Farm until I learned from threads like these that they DO risk out for certain factors (I see size mentioned more than once). So THAT's how they keep their c-section transfer rate below 3%. Not a real-world figure then.
post #19 of 42
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And really, that birth humbled me again, because I realized I was still holding to this fantasy that a vaginal birth would "fix" something, would make me somehow "more"...more of a mother, more of a woman, whatever. And it didn't. It was great and I felt fantastic physically, but I didn't love my vba2c baby more than my c/s babies, I didn't bond to her better or faster, I didn't magically morph into some amazing birth goddess. I guess I realized that it's becoming a mother itself that's transformative, not necessarily the process of birth itself.

Wow. Some amazing food for thought. I think you just bumped up my coming to terms with hb-turned-c/s process to the next level.
post #20 of 42
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Wow. Some amazing food for thought. I think you just bumped up my coming to terms with hb-turned-c/s process to the next level.
Gosh, thanks
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