IUD removal and cm/delayed ovulation?

[Lousli]

I have more IUD removal questions.

Since I got my IUD (previously on the pill) my ovulation signs were quite obvious, and I had copious amounts of fertile quality cm for several days nearing ovulation. I had read that the IUD could possibly increase cm due to irritation, but I'm not sure how true this is or if it is just hearsay.

Anyway, I had my IUD removed on Friday, CD 12, when I would normally be gearing up for ovulation around CD 14 or 15. Friday my cm seemed like it was starting to get fertile quality. After I had it taken out, I had some bleeding, more than spotting but not heavy, which slowed by the end of the day and was completely done by yesterday. Since removal, I haven't had a lot of cm.

Is it possible that all that great fertile cm was just due to the IUD and I don't have as much as I thought?

Or could removal have been stressful enough to my body (even though the procedure was really quick, easy, painless) to delay ovulation?

I haven't been charting with temps yet because we aren't trying yet. I've been charting with cm alone this cycle and the last one.

[DaddyM]

Originally Posted by Lousli

I have more IUD removal questions.

My wife had her copper IUD taken out at the end of . It didn't seem to delay ovulation and she still had fertile CM when the time came (with and w/o the IUD). Her cycles still run a little long now because she is BFing.

CD 6 was the removal date. Chart for reference:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2486c2

[Lousli]

I wonder if it would be any different for me because I had mine taken out later in my cycle?

Maybe I'm just ovulating a little later this month anyway....

I should start temping, huh? Seems like it is just going to make me so much more impatient to ttc if I go to all the effort of temping.

[Phantaja]

Wow, DaddyM. You're good. My H wouldn't know a CD if it hit him over the head.

But back to the original question. The cycle that I had my IUD in was anovulatory. 55 days long!

[Lousli]

Wait, the cycle that you had your IUD inserted or removed?

[DaddyM]

Originally Posted by Lousli

I wonder if it would be any different for me because I had mine taken out later in my cycle?

Maybe I'm just ovulating a little later this month anyway....

I should start temping, huh? Seems like it is just going to make me so much more impatient to ttc if I go to all the effort of temping.

Sorry that I don't have an answer.

Temping is great though. I'm impatient enough KNOWING when she ovulated. Now we are waiting to test... ugh, torture!

Originally Posted by Phantaja

Wow, DaddyM. You're good. My H wouldn't know a CD if it hit him over the head.

Thanks, I try.

[Phantaja]

Originally Posted by Lousli

Wait, the cycle that you had your IUD inserted or removed?

Sorry I omitted a word. That was the cycle I had it removed. I was 17 when I had it inserted, so I don't have a clue about that cycle.

[Lousli]

Thanks! That is really helpful, so I know not to freak out if I end up being annovulatory this month or possibly delayed. And if conversely, I'm right on time, I guess that is another variation of normal.

[Jane]

Copper, I'm assuming, as you wouldn't ovulate over a mirena.
Irritation, I'm assuming. Getting it out so close to ovulation - I wouldn't count on this cycle as being available for conception. Pulling the iud through the cervix can be irritating enough to make it swell and be inhospitable to sperm. Depends on the natural size of the cervical canal. But there are plenty of people who do conceive before every having a post-IUD menstration.
Nosy advice - you are taking a prenatal or folic acid, right?

[Lousli]

Thanks Apricot, in answer to your questions:

Yes, copper.

Not planning to conceive this month, or even next, but I'm just wondering about the possible change in my cycle or if the lack of cm could be a future problem. If I have a long annovulatory cycle, or a way delayed ovulation, I don't want to think I could be pregnant from condom failure, and I will want to know what the next few cycles will most likely be like so I can decide when to start trying.

I've had 2 babies vaginally, and since I was gearing up to ovulate I'd assume my cervical canal would probably be somewhat open. The removal was a piece of cake and took just a minute.

I've been taking a multi plus extra folic for the past month. The OB also gave me a prescription for a prenatal, but I haven't had a chance to fill it yet.

[Jane]

You've had two babies. You'll be fine. Obviously the system works. That sounds snarky, but I mean it nicely. Hopefully that comes through.
In my experience, an IUD just amplified the fluid, but the quality was still the same. So, less quanity, but still egg white. You don't need much. If your next cycle is low-fluid, you can always do robutussin or preseed. In your case, I'd blame the blood. Sometime is ringing a bell in the back of my head about blood not playing well with cervical fluid. But I can't put my finger on the information.

[Lousli]

Yeah, but my babies are now 8 and 5 and I'm now 37. So the situation is a little different from when I was trying at 28.

I'm paranoid. I Googled fertility at 37, not a good idea.

[Vegan Princess]

I had my mirena removed 4/5. I started temping the day after. I still have yet to ovulate. I thought I was going to and even felt like I was (pain on left side) and temp went up but then it dropped back down...so maybe it was a false start. From the reading I've done, it is very normal to have delayed ovulation and annovulatory cycle right after removal. Of course I don't know how much of that is a function of the hormones from mirena...so I don't know if it should be exactly the same for copper?

Cindy

[Lousli]

At this point I'm assuming it has been delayed because I temped this morning and it was a low enough temp to make me almost sure it it pre-ovulatory (97.09.) and I'm still not seeing much cm and it is now CD 15 of what would normally be a 26 or 27 day cycle.

ETA: If I could link to my chart, I would, but I don't remember how to do it and I don't think it would probably help much. I don't like the cm classifications much on FF, but anyway, it looks like I've had some ewcm when I didn't know what to put because I found a little that was sort of ew consistency, but not quite. But it wasn't one of the other categories either.

So I'm just going to keep temping this cycle and see what happens. I'm just hoping this doesn't turn into a completely long, weird, annovulatory cycle. If it does though, at least I'll understand what is happening.

When you have an annovulatory cycle, do you at some point usually get bleeding anyway and then your body starts a new cycle? Or what would cue your body to get cycling again?

[Phantaja]

I've had a few annovulatory cycles that usually go between 53-57 days. The last one I took tribulus terrestris after it became clear that I wasn't going to ovulate and my period started within a few days.

[TrishWSU]

When I had my last Mirena IUD removed (took it out around the time I would have been on AF-I still lightly spotted each month) my ovulation returned to my previous pre-IUD pattern that same cycle. Maybe that was because of the removal timing, though. I'd wait until your AF shows and start temping from there. It's likely you will be annovulatory this cycle.

[Lousli]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm going to ovulate later today or tomorrow. I have a ton of ewcm right now and other ovulatory signs. I temped the last 3 days and even though my temp went up a little today, not enough i think for a temp shift, so I'll be looking for the shift in the next 2 days I think.