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Is there any chance we could buy a home this year?

post #1 of 23
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We have no debt. We have a bit if a down payment saved up (not a whole lot) and we are enthusiastically adding to it. Dh has a really solid, stable, good job which he has been at for almost four years.

The problem is our credit. DH went through a period of unemployment 5 years ago and we racked up some debt at that point and still had some outstanding debts even as recently as a year ago. This was mostly due to our stupid oversight-- we had paid off most of our debt but forgot about some debts that had gone to collections and they were continuing to affect our credit the whole time. So depressing. But we are all 100% paid up now for about a year now. The thing is, our credit scores were so low. Mine is still under 600. We haven't checked DH's yet, but I'm sure it's about the same.

I want to know if there is any way we could fix our credit enough within the next year to buy a house. We have never been irresponsible or just charged tons of stuff we couldn't afford. We were just trying to pay bills and feed our family. We have done our best to dutifully pay our debts for years now.

And the neighborhood we are in is so crime-ridden, it's disgusting. We have two drug-dealers on our floor of the apartment building alone-- that's the scariest thing. There was a syringe found in the grassy area that my children play in, and one of the neighbor girls was DTD on the children's playground. We hear verbal and physical abuse in neighboring apartments. the neighboring apartment building was recently vandalized and destroyed necessitating complete evacuation. I could go on and on. We want to get out of here and into a modest home of our own.

We would be first-time home buyers and our income would qualify us for state home-buying programs, but I don't know what they need the credit to be. If it wasn't for our credit, we could move next month. If I have to wait a year, we can do that, but I don't know how much we have to bring our credit up, or how long that will take.
post #2 of 23
Why can't you rent in a better neighborhood?
post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by Delicateflower View Post
Why can't you rent in a better neighborhood?
I would find the neighborhood I would want to buy in and then try and rent a house there. That way you can check things out and then save at the same time.

We moved into our house and then realized a month later it was an incredibly unsocial neighborhood, but you wouldnt have known that unless you lived there for a bit.
post #4 of 23
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We could rent another place, we just don't want to move twice. We hate moving, and it's expensive, and it affects our credit, too, since we've moved 5 times in the last 8 years already. Plus it's hard to rent a good place with poor credit, lol. That's why we got stuck here.

The kind of housing payment we can afford can get us a crummy rental that we can't fix up or a crummy house that we have a mortgage on that we can fix up. DH can do roofing, framing, siding, painting, tiling, pretty much any kind of construction except plumbing and electric, himself, and we have a strong support community that will come out and offer manpower for fix-it projects, too, so that makes a fixer-upper a very economical choice for us. The house with the mortgage we can fix up pretty easily but the rental stays crummy. Even if the owner did reimburse us for working on it, there's little motivation when you don't own it. We want to have our own place that we can put our mark on and where our investments of time and energy will mean something. I don't want to feel like I'm in limbo anymore-- I want a place to put down roots.
post #5 of 23
I think if you're planning on a fixer-upper you need a huge emergency fund. Ours isn't a fixer upper, but $100 every weekend at Lowe's making it the way we want it really adds up. So maybe move somewhere better, wait the year or so for your credit to improve and save the money for a nice big renovation fund.
post #6 of 23
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We could afford to fix it up. If we bought a place in a year, we would have a small (adequate) emergency fund, and after another year it would be substantial again. After all, we came up with the down payment for this house mostly in a year. We are definitely living well within our means at the moment.
post #7 of 23
Can you buy a house? Sure, if you insist. IMO, is it a good idea to do so? No, it's not, IMO. You need a bigger e-fund and a bigger downpayment fund.
post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 
I think we might go through a law firm to have our challenge our credit score and bring it up. I am going to research that avenue next.
post #9 of 23
We are about to close on a re-fi this week. Credit scores are VITAL these days.

My advice is to start shopping for a mortgage lender NOW. Do you have a credit union? Do family or friends have a lender they recommend? Find out what the lending practices are for 2-3 lenders and see if you qualify. More importantly, however, it will show you exactly where you need to concentrate your efforts.

We went through our current lender (credit union) because we really like them. The application fee was $15 and was done instantly on the phone. We have high credit scores and I was serious about proceeding, but there were many points in the process where I could have stopped the process and been refunded for all fees except that $15 app fee. Each time I crossed a new threshold of nonrefundable fees, they advised me. (This is not true of all lenders, so ASK.)

I dropped paperwork off in person and spent some time with our loan officer. She and I have a similar education and work background and got to talking. Credit scores are inordinately strong factors right now. Cash assets are being micro-analyzed, also (paper trail required). They go back 60 days for "large" deposits (not new; just letting you know). (Their idea of large and mine are different. ) Overall, though, cash assets were not nearly as important for the re-fi process this time around as they were in the past. Credit scores were FAR MORE important (unfairly so, IMO) and the loan-to-value ratio was critical as well. Most people who apply these days cannot get past the application process (credit check). The appraisal process was the next big hurdle, but those exact market issues won't apply to you as a first-time homebuyer. (These had to do with the average homeowner not knowing the real value of his/her home in today's market combined with timing of original purchase and type of loan. All the interest-only loans done during the boom are seriously crushing people now.)

The above is just the lending practice environment this month from my experience (compared to other experiences in the past) and background in finance.

From a practical standpoint, it sounds like you need more time to build your credit rating for ordinary purposes. Being able to rent a place to live that is safe for your family is very important. If you are uncomfortable where you are now safety-wise, then you may need an intermediary step between that and homeownership. Gather more information before making that decision is all I am saying....
post #10 of 23
Could you rent a fixer-upper in a nice neighborhood and use DH's handyman skills as leverage to get a lower rent? A friend of mine got a fantastic deal on a rental house in exchange for completing some work that the landlord needed and doing routine maintenance on the property. This was negotiated in a fairly formal way so they each knew the expectations (and they had an arrangement about who would purchase materials, though I don't know the details on this).

It might be hard to find someone who would take up a non-traditional renter arrangement like this, but it wouldn't hurt to ask around if you see rentals in an area you like!
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks sunnysandiegan. We do have a strong relationship with a credit union, in fact, I used to work there years ago. They are already helping us build our credit with a loan where we gave them the money and then we make monthly payments into a savings account. I can't remember exactly how it works but basically we wind up paying them interest for our own money, but in the long run it will be very good for our credit score. I haven't sat down and talked with a loan officer there, that's a very good idea. We will do that and also talk with the attorneys. Apparently some attorneys specialize in challenging items on the credit score and can have amazing results. I think we will do that next, to gather more information. Thanks for your insight.
post #12 of 23
Have you been to www.creditboards.com? There are a lot of very knowledgeable people there who know how to play the FICO score "game." There might be some ideas there on ways to boost your score, I think it's probably doable in a year's timeframe.

Otherwise, I think it's recommended that you have at least a 620 to get a mortgage. Any lower than that and you'll have huge interest rates or just not qualify, as far as I know.
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hey, greenmom, that's funny, I just back from reading there! Lol! And it was so exciting! From what I am reading, given how our debt is all paid off and other details of our case, it looks like our credit is probably incorrectly low. It shouldn't be that low given the steps we have been taking. Therefore I am going to go back over my credit report with a "fine tooth comb" and make some challenges and it is very likely I can bring it up a lot! And now that I know what I'm doing, I don't even need the help of an attorney. This is so exciting, I am pretty confident now that we can fix our credit well enough to buy a house in about a year. Yayyy!!!
post #14 of 23
post #15 of 23
We bought our first home last year. We had some dings on our credit--all from around 2003. Since that time, we have worked very hard to build our credit simply by paying off debt and paying our bills on time. A year ago, we were able to qualify (easily) for a loan. At some point in the process, the underwriter just wanted us to write a letter explaining the old debt.

We went through a specific program with a set interest rate, though. If we had done another type of loan, I think perhaps our credit scores, which were fair on the verge of good at that time, would still have impacted our ability to get the best interest rates. I there there are other fees that we did pay, though, that are tied to credit scores and will range depending how low or high your score is. I couldn't tell you the exact amount of those fees or even what they are and how much our credit scores impacted the amount of the fees because it's all very complicated and not readily evident.

All in all, we were able to get a loan we were happy with and an interest rate we were happy with at a cost we were happy with, despite some negatives on our credit history. I think I might go talk to a few loan officers and see what they tell you before talking to an attorney. That might help you weigh the cost of attorney fees against the potential benefit from any increase in your credit score.
post #16 of 23
I see you live in New Hampshire. Depending on where in NH you may be eligible for a rural development loan.
They have 2 loan types- direct and guaranteed. It is based on income, you can borrow 100%, the interest can be as low as 1%. They are more willing to deal with spotty credit, too.
Here's link to the general site- then you can find & call your USDA office:

USDA Loans

There is often a wait for the direct loans, so sending in the initial app will probably be 6 months-1 year until you get the loan.
It's a great program. Maybe it can help.
post #17 of 23
Creditboards rocks!

Have you pulled DH's credit/fico score yet?


You need to do all the corrections and challenges on both at the same time to be the most helpfull.


And then maybe actually talk to a real mortgage company and see what they say. Only they can give you a yes or no or tell you what you need to still do.



Good luck!!!
post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mouso View Post
I see you live in New Hampshire. Depending on where in NH you may be eligible for a rural development loan.
They have 2 loan types- direct and guaranteed. It is based on income, you can borrow 100%, the interest can be as low as 1%. They are more willing to deal with spotty credit, too.
Here's link to the general site- then you can find & call your USDA office:

USDA Loans

There is often a wait for the direct loans, so sending in the initial app will probably be 6 months-1 year until you get the loan.
It's a great program. Maybe it can help.
That's something we hadn't considered yet-- we've been looking at NH's first time home buyers programs. It might work since the kind of property we are looking at would be a farmhouse on a couple acres. It's certainly something that I will learn more about.
post #19 of 23
Perhaps rather than making a DATE ("by December"), you could make your goal a financial one.

Owning a home is not inexpensive. Beyond what you want to do to one cosmetically, there are a THOUSAND tiny things that just pull at your wallet. Some are major (roofs, for example), but most are little things that just nickle and dime you to death... a new step on the deck, a coat of paint, a new knob for this, and new regulator for that, etc.

I would suggest that you think, not in terms of "when" you can buy a home, but at what point financially you can. That is, say you are looking at $100,000 homes and your current monthly expenses are $3,000/month. Start looking to buy a home when you have $20,000 (20%) for a down payment and you have $24,000 (8 mos.) for an emergency fund. Just a thought. Owning is SOOOOO much more expensive than just the mortgage/tax/insurance!

Good luck!
post #20 of 23
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Here's the best info I've found so far on how to fix incorrect credit report accounts/listings: http://www.creditinfocenter.com/repair/Repair.shtml
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