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Exempt Payee? W9 Tax question

post #1 of 14
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I'm lost. I'm filling out a W9 and it wants me to check (or not check) a box that asks if I'm an "exempt payee". How do I know? What is this? I've googled but everything seems like it's in a foreign language- so can someone explain this to me like they're explaining it to a child? I'm horrible at taxes


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post #2 of 14
Do you have a SSN? You are most likely an exempt payee. It means you are exempt from any "backup withholdings". Those accrue from the time you apply for a TIN (if you don't have a SSN) to the time you GET one. I'm sure you are exempt.
post #3 of 14
If you're filling it out as an individual, and not a corporation, then don't check it. By checking exempt you are saying that come tax time that you won't/shouldn't have to pay taxes on the money you're earning from that job. But, like I said, if you're doing this job as a corporation then check it.

Check this out on page 3 of the W-9 form (starts at the bottom of page 2). I think it lists it out pretty easily.

ETA: since you want it like a child... Just FYI- if you're working as just an individual doing a temp job or something, then be aware that by filling out a W-9 you are an independent contractor and not an employee. So you can't file an unemployment claim against this "employer" later. And you won't have any taxes taken out of your checks, but (assuming you make more than $400 from this company) you'll have to pay taxes on this income come next April (or at least the income will figure in to your total income before deductions).
post #4 of 14
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Hmm. I'm still lost about whether to check it or not- I checked the box, I can probably ammend that though. Anyone else?
post #5 of 14
If you are a US Citizen, and not an employee in certain government positions..You are not exempt from paying payroll taxes.
post #6 of 14
We chose tax exempt for DH's after conferring with his accountancy professor about it. We never have a tax liability at the end of the year so chose to not have any federal taxes withheld. We still get a big refund anyway due to dependents and tuition and retirement contributions.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ahh, thanks. We have never had to pay taxes at the end of the year since we don't make much. So basically, if you choose to be tax exempt, you have to pay what would have been witheld at tax time? Or am I completely off?
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by WindyCityMom View Post
Ahh, thanks. We have never had to pay taxes at the end of the year since we don't make much. So basically, if you choose to be tax exempt, you have to pay what would have been witheld at tax time? Or am I completely off?
No, if you DON'T choose tax exempt then at the end of the year you will (maybe) have to pay the taxes on what you made, since it didn't come out of that W-9 job, which should be the case for every individual in America, unless you're a corporation (or work certain govt jobs). Tax exempt means you're exempt (don't have to) pay income tax at the end of the year. But you can't just choose to be tax exempt because you usually don't have to pay. (If you don't have to pay it's because you make too little, not because the government says you are free from all income taxes). Does that make sense? Unless you are a corporation or a 501c3 or a bank, then DON'T check that box. If you're just a woman getting paid to do a job then don't check it. Basically, do you, as an individual, have a letter from the government saying you are exempt from paying income taxes? No? Then don't check it. Hope this helps.

(I'm not a CPA but I am an accountant and I deal w/ W-9's all day long. My company pays 20,000 people a year by W-9's and I get asked these questions all the time)

ETA: This is how taxes work at the end of the year simply: All the income you and your DH made is in one column (including what you make at this W-9 job) and then all the taxes that came out of your DH's job and any other job you had is in the other column. Then all of your deductions are listed. If your tax burden (what you should have paid) is more than what you did pay, then you owe money on April 15. If what you paid throughout the year is more than what you should have paid then you get a refund. If it equals out then you get no refund and you owe nothing. Your income from the W-9 is figured into the total income (if it's more than $400). That's how you might or might not have to pay taxes on it at the end of the year. If you were truly tax exempt (which you're not) then your income from this job would not count towards total income. Does that help? It's not like at the end of the year you'll definitely have to pay the taxes that should have been withheld, it just means that that income has to be figured in.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ahh, thanks! Do you know the guidelines as far as how little you have to make in order to not get taxed goes? I think it's $400...? I'm not sure. Anyhow, I surely do hope to be making more than that and I'm going to see if I can ammend the w9.
post #10 of 14
Yes, you're right. The minimum is $400. That means that if you make less than $400 from this company, then they won't (shouldn't anyway) send you a 1099-MISC form next January. Then you don't use that 1099 when doing your taxes. You just pretend you didn't make that $399, or whatever. Don't figure it in. If you make more than $400 then they will send you (and the IRS) a 1099 and you include that when you do your taxes.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Do you know if they only send the 1099 if you don't check the exempt box? Or do they send one either way?
post #12 of 14
That's a good question. I actually don't know because we don't send out the forms where people can check exempt. We don't "allow" people to check it or want them getting confused, since we know they are all individuals and not corporations, we just don't offer that option, so we definitely send everyone a 1099. If I had to think about it, I would think that they would not send you one, but if they were really paying attention, they should see that you filled it out incorrectly. If you put your name and SSN, then they should know that you shouldn't have marked exempt. I would call them and fill out another one.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the help! I'm going to try and get that fixed!
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Monarchgrrl View Post
Yes, you're right. The minimum is $400. That means that if you make less than $400 from this company, then they won't (shouldn't anyway) send you a 1099-MISC form next January. Then you don't use that 1099 when doing your taxes. You just pretend you didn't make that $399, or whatever. Don't figure it in. If you make more than $400 then they will send you (and the IRS) a 1099 and you include that when you do your taxes.
All income needs to be reported on your taxes, regardless of whether you receive a 1099 or not. The $400 limit is the threshold amount that requires COMPANIES to report the payment to the IRS.
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