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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
First I apologize for the very long post.

Me and dh are having sone serious issues and I need some advice. Ever since we had our first child things have been going downhill. He was raised in a very “these are girls jobs/these are boys jobs” household. He seems to think that when we had children I would become just like his mother.

We both worked full time after our first child. He still just expected that I would work 40+ hours, care for the kids, breastfeed, pump, clean our very large house, care for all of our pets, and perform my “marital duties”. He only needs to work, mow the yard, and take out the trash. I tried many different ways to get through to him that I could not do all this without help. I will admit that sometimes I blew up and blamed him/criticized which I should not have. With every discussion he would just excuse his behavior and nothing would change. When I would stop bringing it up he just assumed it was resolved.

Also my job during this time was very stressful. I would leave work near tears and try to vent to dh. He would refuse to listen and tell me I talk to much. He didn't want to hear about how I felt. However, if I didn't want to “be a wife” later he would talk for an hour about how I could “fix” the problem of not wanting to.

After the birth of our second daughter I am now a stay at home mom. I thought this would help. I love being at home and do not mind now taking on most of the work. He thinks that my being at home means he has NO responsibilities now. I have to have surgery next month so in addition to bfing my lo I also have to pump-will not be able to bf for 24 hours. So I am bfing, pumping, preparing all the meals, doing all the cleaning, caring for the children 24/7, and still he wants more of me.

Also, even though I am the only one doing all this it must be done his way. He will several times a day stop me from what I am doing to tell me it must be done different. Ex: I was cooking dinner/watching the children and he kept coming in with “dont use that knife-use this one” “did you change the baby?” ect. He also always wants more done around the house and he blames me for EVERYTHING. The otr day our daughter had diaper rash and he grilled me for 10 minutes about when/how I changed her. Then said she has diaper rash.

I have tried many ways to get him to understand that he is hurting me and that I cannot do it all. When I discuss these feelings/issues with him he changes the subject, make excuses, blames me, or he will apologize then pretend nothing happened.

Recently the situation has hit a boiling point. I was trying to get more cleaning done. I asked him on his day off to entertain our older daughter so that I could complete the housework. He watched her for 20 minutes then sent her to where I was while he sat on the couch. I became upset and tried again to discuss with him that I need help. It turned into an argument and this time he was intentionally trying to hurt me. He told me that I was being just like my mother-who is a selfish and mean woman and blamed me alone for all the issues.

I cannot take anymore. I tried to convince him we need to separate for a few days but he refuses.

I am not perfect. I tend to talk only of the issues to him and not how I feel. I also hold onto anger until I explode-making him think that everything is fine when I keep quiet.

Please, any advice would be very appreciated and thank you in advance.
post #2 of 11


How old is your baby? The early years are so very hard sometimes!
post #3 of 11
So just a rundown (correct me if I got anything wrong):

He does not help w/any household duties or child care

He doesn't want to hear about your feelings and tells you so

He frequently criticizes you


Absolutely unnacceptable in my book. There is no way that the two of you can have a long and happy relationship if the situation continues as is.

I'm not saying he is an evil person, maybe he needs a wake up call so that he realizes that this behavior does not make a happy marriage. If he grew up w/these kinds of parents then he has had a bad example.

My parents have the relationship you have described between you and your dh (and worse sometimes) and what it comes down to is about what treatment you are willing to accept for the rest of your marriage.

Will your dh go to counseling so that a neutral 3rd party can help the two of you come up w/ a plan? Does he seem to care that you are unhappy? Have you even told him that your needs are not being met in the relationship (outside of the argument, like a calm convo)?

A serious discussion is in order. You do not deserve to be treated like a maid, not listened to or not have your feelings considered. Both people in the relationship should help ea other, be thoughtful of ea others' feelings, and do what it takes to build a strong bond. If one person doesn't make any effort, it just doesn't work.

I pray that your dh will find that love he surely has for you and really step up as a man, he is totally capable of doing that.
post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
He does have the desire to make me happy but is clueless as to how. When I get upset about him not doing what I ask(such as watching the kids) he will do something...It is usually not helpful though.

He seems to be unable to understand what I am trying to say to him when we do discuss these things.

I cannot come up with any other ways to say it or any other ideas to make him understand.
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
oh...also, with the criticizing, he honestly believes he is helping by telling me a "better" way to do something(he always tells me this when I point out that I don't want the "help") He thinks he is making my life easier.
post #6 of 11
Raine, I'm sorry you're in a tough position...

I don't usually give advice, but, there's a first time for everything...

I think the counseling idea is a great one. From the outside, based on your description of your relationship, it sounds as though your husband, whether meaning to or not, is (or is trying) to control you. Just what I'm gleaning from your description of your relationship, so I could be totally wrong. However, it does seem strange to me that he feels the need to oversee and criticize even the small things that you do (telling which knife to choose, questioning if you've changed the baby).

It sounds as though he's treating you as a child/a servant, rather than an equal partner, either telling you what to do (treating you as a child) or expecting you to do the things that he, as a capable adult, could also chip in and help with (treating you as a servant). I would imagine that for you to feel like an equal and valued partner in your relationship, you'd have to change the dynamics so that there's parity not only in housework/childrearing/etc, but more importantly, in how each of you treats the other.

Sorry for the long post...I really feel for you, Raine, and hope you're able to work things out with your husband so that you can have a fulfilling partnership.
post #7 of 11
If he has the desire to make you happy then now is the perfect time for some outside intervention bc he has the desire and the motivation (while the relationship is still good overall) to make the changes he needs to for the long haul.

In counseling you can both learn how to communicate better.

I would approach him and say, "I think we need to learn some better ways to communicate w/ea other so that we can let ea other know what we need w/out causing hurt feelings and a huge fight". This approach may work better than telling him he is the problem and needs to change. What needs to change is the dynamic of your relationship so that it goes from a parent/child dynamic to an equal partner relationship. In order to do that it will take work from both sides.

It sounds like your dh loves you and is invested in his family but his approach is lacking and his ideas about what constitues a give and take relationship need some work. It's completely possible to turn your relationship into one that will nurture both of you and increase your chances of making it last forever.

My advice is to do whatever it takes to make those changes sooner rather than later bc the longer it goes on the way it is the more resentment and hurt will build up, which will be more difficult to work through.

GL!
post #8 of 11
I'm so sorry you are going through this... I offer you my support and empathy, as I'm not sure that I feel qualified to give "advice".

I am thinking back to the days when I used to watch a certain TV show that I won't name because I might lose credibility for watching it... but the host of this particular show advised marital couples to stop talking about the "issues", and break it down to specific things that you "NEED".

What are your "NEEDS"? What do you need from him? Be specific!

"I NEED you to appreciate me" is not specific enough. What, specifically, do you need him to do?

I NEED you to load and empty the dishwasher once a day.
I NEED you to mow the lawn and take out the garbage.
I NEED you to take both kids for 30 minutes every day so that I can have a shower.
I NEED us to have a "date-night" once a week.

Whatever... What do you absolutely NEED him to do? And what do you WANT him to do? Talk about these things in the middle of the day, in a neutral space, when you are both calm and rational. Maybe you could leave the kids with a friend or relative and go out for coffee or something to talk about these things.

I hope that the advice of this un-named individual will help you Good luck!
post #9 of 11
I agree with the above advice about counseling with a neutral third party. He needs to hear from someone on the outside that he is not contributing enough for the family's well-being, and he is not being reasonable in his expectations/criticism of you. It sounds like he is not open to hearing this from you.

If he refuses to go into counseling, I think you have solid grounds to ask for a trial separation until he is willing to put hard work into saving your marriage.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by windsorheightsmom View Post
I agree with the above advice about counseling with a neutral third party. He needs to hear from someone on the outside that he is not contributing enough for the family's well-being, and he is not being reasonable in his expectations/criticism of you. It sounds like he is not open to hearing this from you.

If he refuses to go into counseling, I think you have solid grounds to ask for a trial separation until he is willing to put hard work into saving your marriage.
If you do go for counseling -- I think it needs to be a MALE counselor, so that he will have credibility with your DH. Otherwise, he may feel that "of course a female counselor will be on YOUR side" and feel pressured, etc
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thank you all. I am looking into possible counseling now which he is open to. He has never not cared about the marrage and is motivated to make it better. He does not know how and I am out of ideas on how to explain what I need. Hopefully a third party will be able to.
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