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OUCH, I don't know if I can keep doing it.

post #1 of 14
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The baby is 10 months and he is killing me. I have ruined more shirts then I can remember with blood from Shane biting me. I have tried just about everything I can think of or have read and even had his tongue clipped in hopes that it would help.

I can't even put a bra on, it hurts SOOOO much. He is slowing his nursing down quite a bit, but I am almost to the point that I am just done. I don't know if I can keep doing it. I just hurt and I am getting angry with him.

Then I think about weaning it makes me cry. He is my last baby ever and I wanted to have a long nursing relationship, but I am in so much pain that I cringe when he starts asking to nurse. My nipples need some help.
post #2 of 14
I don't have any advice because my son is still toothless, but I just wanted to offer hugs.
post #3 of 14
is he biting on purpose or is it a bad latch?
post #4 of 14
Biting is not okay, mama. You don't have to sit there and endure it. You can gently teach him nursing manners. I say a stern "no biting" and then either pause or end the nursing session. My DD loves milkies so much that this does not happen often.

If it is a bad latch, you could try lanolin and/or a shield until you are healed. Are you flipping his upper lip out, like duck lips?
post #5 of 14
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No, its biting. I have done it all. Ignored, firm no, ending the nursing, walked away, waited until HE asked to nurse (he can sign and he says milk). This has been going on for 2 months and I am just at my wits end. I have pumped prior to nursing to make sure i have gotten a let down, I have done that and nursed after eating so I know he isn't starving. I have taken him to quiet rooms and talked to him the whole time. I have tried a quiet room and silence. Nothing seems to work other then nursing at 3 in the morning when he is half asleep.
post #6 of 14
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And i wanted to add. I will try anything, I just listed what I have already done.
post #7 of 14
Ooh, I'm sorry it's still going on - I really hoped this was a phase he would have outgrown by now . Well done for keeping going - biting truly is awful in many ways. *Hugs.*

When is it during the feed? I'm sorry, I know we have talked about this before but I can't remember what you said. Is it mid-feeding when the milk flow slows? Or towards the end of the feed when he's actually had enough? If the latter, then anticipating a feed ending and unlatching him before he has a chance the bite is helpful for some mums (sorry if that's something you've already tried). If it's in the middle of a feed, then again if you can anticipate it perhaps breast compressions might help? That's the only other thing I can think of. Also, is it every feed? Every position? Certain times of day? These are all things I"m sure you have considered, but may hold some clues. Just brainstorming/thinking aloud here. Will ask around again if that's OK with you.
post #8 of 14
I had two biters (but not to the point of drawing blood very often), I know how frusterating and painful it can be. At what point in the nursing session is he biting? My first biter bit me from 6 monthes to 14 monthes, I FINALLY noticed that she would get a funny glint in her eye right before she did it and I would latch her off as soon as I saw "the look" (that avoided quite a few bites), it also helped to pull her in very close while nursing. My second biter bit from about 7 monthes to 13 monthes and the same things worked with him. The worst thing I could do was yell out in shock and pain, they found it funny and wanted to make it happen again. I also have two other kids that were not biters, I didn't do anything differently with them, so not sure why? I hope you find something that works and can keep your nursing relationship and not feel dread when babe asks to nurse. Oh yeah, one more ?, is he biting in his sleep?
post #9 of 14


Is he having any bottles or pacifiers? The worst biters I've known were because they were used to artificial nipples too.

Hope you get it figured out! Biting is NOT okay.

-Angela
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Heba View Post
Ooh, I'm sorry it's still going on - I really hoped this was a phase he would have outgrown by now . Well done for keeping going - biting truly is awful in many ways. *Hugs.*

When is it during the feed? I'm sorry, I know we have talked about this before but I can't remember what you said. Is it mid-feeding when the milk flow slows? Or towards the end of the feed when he's actually had enough? If the latter, then anticipating a feed ending and unlatching him before he has a chance the bite is helpful for some mums (sorry if that's something you've already tried). If it's in the middle of a feed, then again if you can anticipate it perhaps breast compressions might help? That's the only other thing I can think of. Also, is it every feed? Every position? Certain times of day? These are all things I"m sure you have considered, but may hold some clues. Just brainstorming/thinking aloud here. Will ask around again if that's OK with you.
Oh yes, please ask around.

It varies, it is sometimes right at the start, sometimes in the middle and sometimes at the end. I am catching a few times where his whole jaw starts to tense up and he starts to shake (like he is going to bit down really hard). There isn't much rhyme ore reason to it that I can figure out. He isn't doing it in the middle of the night when he is half asleep.

BUT I will say, clipping his tongue did make a huge difference in now I can tell what is actually a bite and I think part of some of the pain before was his bottom teeth scraping against my nipple. That hurts just as much as a bite, but I can tell the difference now. He isn't doing that one anymore.

I am wondering if maybe it is a supply issue. I thought i was good, but maybe I am just not making as much as i thought? I have been very stressed and I know that can affect supply.

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Is he having any bottles or pacifiers? The worst biters I've known were because they were used to artificial nipples too.

Hope you get it figured out! Biting is NOT okay.
Yes and no. He, on very rare occasion has had a bottle (like me driving 300 miles to my sisters for her sons birth and my oldest boy gave him a bottle in the back seat.) or when he steals the bottle from my daycare baby. That is maybe once a week and I take it away almost immediately. But I would say, on average he gets maybe one bottle of something once every 2 to 3 weeks. Usually water/juice or the formula that he steals from his buddy. He hasn't used a pacifier since he was 3 months old. He is a thumb sucker.

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The worst thing I could do was yell out in shock and pain, they found it funny and wanted to make it happen again.
He thinks that is the funniest thing. One time he cried when I yelled (first time ever ever bit me) since then, it has been funny. I try really hard not to yell.

This weekend has been a little better, he only bit once and that was maybe my fault. He had been chewing on his thumb then asking to nurse so when I nursed he bit. Almost like he wanted to chew on me instead of his thumb. He is smart, he knows it hurts. Gotta love my booger.

On the up side. he is doing his boobie dance more and more and it is so cute it is near impossible to stay upset, even if i am in pain.
post #11 of 14
Hm. Then I go with the- figure out when/why it happens to solve it. or try... I'd take some time and spend a couple of days REALLY paying attention when he nurses- watch him. Watch what he's doing when it doesn't hurt, try to see what happens just before it hurts, see what happens when it hurts. Is he falling asleep? trying to get your attention? looking around? trying to get more milk?

good luck!

-Angela
post #12 of 14
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I am wondering if maybe it is a supply issue. I thought i was good, but maybe I am just not making as much as i thought? I have been very stressed and I know that can affect supply.
It is possible that it could be supply. Tongue-tie - even if it causes no apparent problems early on in the nursing relationship - can hinder the establishment of a plentiful supply which *may* not show up until later. If you respond well to fenugreek or other ways of increasing supply, you might like to try this for a bit to see if it makes any difference?

Stress can also affect MER (let-down), which might be a factor - even if you express to trigger the first MER, later ones might not be happening so easily, thereby causing frustration??? Breast compressions can keep the milk flowing, so if you notice the little one slowing down, maybe they would be worth a try?

Will ask around for any more suggestions.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Heba View Post
It is possible that it could be supply. Tongue-tie - even if it causes no apparent problems early on in the nursing relationship - can hinder the establishment of a plentiful supply which *may* not show up until later. If you respond well to fenugreek or other ways of increasing supply, you might like to try this for a bit to see if it makes any difference?

Stress can also affect MER (let-down), which might be a factor - even if you express to trigger the first MER, later ones might not be happening so easily, thereby causing frustration??? Breast compressions can keep the milk flowing, so if you notice the little one slowing down, maybe they would be worth a try?

Will ask around for any more suggestions.
Fenugreek makes me sick to my stomach, the smell. I will try it, but bleck. I do have a ton of reglan still from before my surgery, I wonder if I should try that? Thanks for the suggestions and asking around for me.
post #14 of 14
If all else fails, would you consider EP for a while, feeding him in a cup? It may be that he needs to unlearn this habit, and this would also give you a break. Nursing is NOT supposed to be painful, and if it's got to the point when you are dreading it, maybe a complete change would be an idea. You could maybe keep nursing at night (particularly if he's less likely to bit then and then after a week or so try him back on the breast during the day? *Hugs* I know you don't want to wean.
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