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post #21 of 409
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Originally Posted by bbrandonsmom View Post
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28fb6b

Ok, I found the settings and put it on Advanced. The three pre-O temps of 97.1 were taken 1/2 hour later than I normally would temp, but even if I disregard them, ff still puts cross hairs in the same place. Not sure what the deal is.
Spotting pre-O is considered very fertile, especially so close to EWCF. O spotting can show up a day or two after O, though. I'd try the FAM O detector, which is closest to the rules in TCOYF, and put those temps back in. I don't think they should be disregarded. The FAM O detector is usually more conservative so I think it's safe for CTA purposes with FF. Even with those 97.1 temps taken out, I wouldn't put your O day before cd20.
post #22 of 409
lol-look what happens when I put it on FAM and replace the temps.
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28fb6b

Now, if I disregard even two of those temps, it goes back to d19, which I don't buy, due to the ewcf and spotting afterwards.
post #23 of 409
bbrandonsmom: CD22 looks quite clear to me!
post #24 of 409
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Originally Posted by bbrandonsmom View Post
lol-look what happens when I put it on FAM and replace the temps.
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28fb6b
That certainly would make things extra safe. It did that because you don't have a clear and sustained thermal shift before then according to FAM rules. That's why I suggested using the NFP rules about the LTL/HTL. Your LTL would be 97.1 and your HTL would be 97.5. That would make your O day cd22. You can override it and put it in yourself.
post #25 of 409
Hi,
I am new to this thread, didn't realize it was here.
We are tta using nfp. I am on my second cycle since the birth of my 4th.
She is nursing quite a bit still, not always sleeping well, so I don't always have a decent ammount of sleep before temping and I don't temp at the same time every day BUT... I have done it this way before and my chart has been way more clear than this cycle.
I am on 16 dpo according to ff with a neg hpt. Can any of you ladies give me some insight as to wether or not I have o'd this cycle.
Thanks
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/...in/rss6734.xml
post #26 of 409
ok that obiously didn't work how do I link my chart?
post #27 of 409
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Originally Posted by theboysmama View Post
ok that obiously didn't work how do I link my chart?
There is a link on FF on the left hand side that says "home page" or something like that. Post the url of your homepage. Have you set it up yet? I think you have to set it up first... clear as mud?

Happy May Day everyone!
post #28 of 409
I set it up ages ago just couldn't remember how to post. Thanks
Hope this works http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ttc3again
post #29 of 409
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Originally Posted by theboysmama View Post
I am on 16 dpo according to ff with a neg hpt. Can any of you ladies give me some insight as to wether or not I have o'd this cycle.
FF is wrong. I'd say you can't confirm O before cd34. Maybe sometime between cd34 and cd37. I know that doesn't match up with CF at all but you don't need CF data to pinpoint and confirm O. You only needs temps and yours don't show a thermal shift before cd34. You could try switching O detectors and/or take out the CF data. Just put it in your notes so it doesn't affect the chart.
post #30 of 409
BBM, FWIW, ITA with MW. Wow, look at those acronyms! I would go with CD 22 and a CL of 97.2ish.

theboysmama, I think it looks pretty clear that you have O'd, but I possibly not when FF says. Again, agreeing with MW I'd put O on CD 35-37 or so just based on temps. But that is one confusing chart.
post #31 of 409
theboysmama: I say CD 35 or 39, depending on the reasons for the open circles. You almost definitely have O'd, but there's no way O was CD 25.
post #32 of 409
Subbing. CD 6 of cycle 3 charting.
post #33 of 409
Thank you everyone for your responses.
The open circles are because I have a 16month old so I do not temp at the same time every day, which hasn't been a problem in the past.

By cd 30 my cervix was firm and mostly closed and was fully closed by cd 35. It is not possible to o w/ a closed cervix is it?

Thanks again for your help, this is definately the most confusing chart I have ever seen.
post #34 of 409
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Originally Posted by theboysmama View Post
The open circles are because I have a 16month old so I do not temp at the same time every day, which hasn't been a problem in the past.
Yes, but in order to understand the impact of temping at "off" times you have to consider whether it was early or late & by how much. Wouldn't it be nice if FF had a different visual for early vs late temps?
post #35 of 409
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Originally Posted by theboysmama View Post
By cd 30 my cervix was firm and mostly closed and was fully closed by cd 35. It is not possible to o w/ a closed cervix is it?
From what I've read I wouldn't think so but I don't really know. It can take up to 3 days for temps to reflect O. That means it is possible to have Oed 3 days before you start to see a thermal shift. Also, it's not unusual, especially while breastfeeding and just having cycles returning, for your body to get very close to O but not quite make it happen. That doesn't explain why you had a thermal shift so long after the fertile CF and CP, though. Whether you Oed on cd25 or cd34, your CL would be about the same, 97.0-97.1 (if you ignore the open-circled temps). You don't have enough temps above that to confirm O until after cd34. Is there any pattern to when the open-circled temps were taken? In other words, are they all (or most of them) within an hour of your regular time? Are all or most of them just a little earlier or later?
post #36 of 409
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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post
Yes, but in order to understand the impact of temping at "off" times you have to consider whether it was early or late & by how much. Wouldn't it be nice if FF had a different visual for early vs late temps?
Yes, it would. I thought of something else. If you have a normal temp time set but it's not really that normal for you, you could try removing that to see if that changes the way FF considers them. I don't set a regular time on FF so it calculates it for me. My open and closed circles can change throughout my cycle depending on when I've been taking my temp.
post #37 of 409
Ovu users, can you set a date in the program?

Once again I accidentally typed in a temp in the wrong day (the 18th of May) and even though I deleted the day it's saying I'm pg.
post #38 of 409
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Originally Posted by echospiritwarrior View Post
Ovu users, can you set a date in the program?

Once again I accidentally typed in a temp in the wrong day (the 18th of May) and even though I deleted the day it's saying I'm pg.
Did you try doing a mass delete? Maybe it assumed data from now until then so deleting that one day didn't delete everything. You can do that from the edit button. You can also go to "override calculations" to make it anov or tell it to not calculate O before a certain date or to let you set it or whatever.
post #39 of 409
ok, I took away the default time which was 6:15 and it is set as nothing. All of my times are between 4:45 and 7:15 with the majority falling between 5:45 and 6:15. The circles didn't change though.
post #40 of 409
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Originally Posted by theboysmama View Post
ok, I took away the default time which was 6:15 and it is set as nothing. All of my times are between 4:45 and 7:15 with the majority falling between 5:45 and 6:15. The circles didn't change though.
It may not go back and change things after the fact. A half hour time range shouldn't make a difference. I'm not really sure how far outside the norm it has to be before FF counts it as too early or late.
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