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Part 2

I love reading about the baby spirit dreams. I've had experiences like that....haven't thought of those dreams for so long!

And I especially LOVED reading about your dream of the Greco-Roman pantheon, ktg.

Fits in with the stuff that happened the day after I did the Venus ritual from mooncircles that aweyn linked to last week.

I thought we needed some fun after a rough week, so we invited dd's girlfriend over and had a backyard firepit on Saturday night. DD's friend knew which phase of the moon we were in, too -- I was impressed! Anyway, I was sitting cuddling my Taurean 4 yr old and we looked up to see Venus shining overhead - not usually visible in my yard on spring evenings and it did slip behind some trees after a half hour. We watched it together and had a long conversation about it. Ds said that "that planet is very angry because people are fighting with me to the death", which is exactly the kind of cryptic and vaguely disturbing thing he might say...but then he fell asleep in my arms and it was overall a moment.

Later, I put the kids to bed and put on a podcast while I got going on some work. I've been listening to T. Thorne Coyle's Pagan podcast series, Elemental Castings, after Koalamom ( I think) recommended Coyle's interview with Christopher Penczak a month or so back.

The whole series is AMAZING.

Interrupting my story to say that I think you all would love them! Has anyone else listened to them? They are a series of 30 interviews between Coyle (author of Evolutionary Witchcraft, a book mentioned in the spiritual resources thread, and one I'm definitely going to read) and various Pagan scholars and figures, including Penczak, Ellen Dugan, Anne Hill, Diana Paxon, lots of others I haven't heard of but some of you might have. They are organized according to the theme by the elements of Earth, Water, Air, Fire, and Spirit -- water podcasts relate to magical issues to do with emotions/dreams, etc, for example.

I've listened to maybe 8 so far and I want to listen to the rest of them, and to the ones I've listened to all over again. My list of books to read and Pagan paths to learn more about and author websites to check out is getting very long. Seriously, listening to these podcasts is like a course in `what a pagan practice can become after Witchcraft 101' -- they are just very thought-provoking and intelligent discussions between grownups about Pagan matters. They have been keeping me sane during these last few crazy weeks -- I listen to them while doing housework....

BTW, episode 26 is an interview with some Australian Pagan named Tim Hartridge -- have you heard of him Cari? While I was listening to his very evocative interview about the spiritual power of the desert, I thought about you and your move back to the land of hot, aweyn. And Coyle mentions several times in the Earth interviews I've listened to about her practice of introducing herself to the spirits of place wherever she travels. Maybe that might be helpful for anyone feeling displaced?

Anyway, I have them all on my portable player and I can only see them listed by number, date and elemental theme on the player - have to refer to the website for program descriptions. So, back to my story, after my firepit, I was trying to dial up a Fire program and somehow clicked on an Earth one instead that began with Karen West reading an Invocation to Aphrodite and led to a discussion of her travels to Aphrodisias in Turkey, and the image of the Turkish Aphrodite, who is `more than the Greco-Roman boudoir babe'.....West suggests that maybe the patriarchal culture in ancient Greece dumbed Aphrodite down a bit.

Went shopping for some pretty rubber gloves in all colors to prevent dishpan hands (sorta funky like your skull and roses apron, Clay) and some pretty candles and nice salts for communing with Aphrodite in the bath, lol! I'm going to spend more time with the images I have of her and see where it leads me.

Hope all that made sense, computer time about up for today.

BellaLuna, , hope things sort out with your dp and that your ex stays away. Must be so confusing and stressful for you

Did you do a TM this year?

I think the best planners are the ones one makes oneself, anyway, Val and Cari

I love the "rug up" too, Cari! And also Alfredo, DeShanna. Mmmmmm.

My dd used to insist on pizza without tomato sauce, and I'd make it for her with jarred alfredo sauce and spinach.

Happy birthday, daughter of Millie Ivy!

Great to see you back, Maia! Love M and the new age mag!
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My mom just emailed me. She is now thinking of moving to either my town or one town over. Trouble is, my town has a one to two yr waiting list for low income senior housing.
Not sure what the next town over will be. (will call them tomorrow.)

Low cost elderly housing is in such high demand. I don't know what they expect people to do for housing.
Actually ALL low income housing is in high demand.
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Dd is really wanting to learn how to write in Runes. I had ordered The Witch's Primer: Grade One from Amazon and I love it. It has a cute little quiz in it asking the kids about who is the Mother Goddess and the Father God and what they think they look like.

I think I'm going to get her her own little book of shadows so she can start writing in runes. I bet ds will then want to do it too.

Btw...now I'm craving Lucky Charms. Maybe because they're magically delicious?
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Btw...now I'm craving Lucky Charms. Maybe because they're magically delicious?
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Dh is still on the sense it will be a boy because he believes he can not make girls *insert rolling eyes*.
My ex had a family before DS and me. Those were 2 boys and one girl, and then I had a boy. Ex said "I make too many Y's"

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I'm 32 this year. And it was a lovely birthday! Eh, 50 doesn't seem to me to be old at all, but that's because I know so many vivacious older folks!

M with the New Age magazine sounds hilarious. I have to say, some of the stuff in there makes me go, "really? I could just make something up and charge an arm and a leg to do it..." But yeah, that must have been quite the culture shock for him

Glad you had a good time...how's M feeling these days? Any better? Did he get to the doc for a diagnosis?

So we finally found out that DH did not get the job he interviewed for. That's fine, but it seems to have triggered some anxiety in DH about other things. He's trying to get into a M.Ed Program, but he's being painfully slow about it. I'm trying to be understanding, as usual, but it's frustrating. He needs this degree to keep teaching, and he's been putting it off and off. Argh.
Older folks
All my mommy friends are 32ish. Because they are the ones who have kids my DS's age, which is 9. So I started late
Plus I got sober when I was 34, and I've heard it said that a person is developmentally arrested at the age that s/he starts drinking alcoholically, which for me was 17. So if that theory is true, then at 34 I was still 17, so if I kept developing at a correct rate, I would now be...33.
And now there's M, who was my high school boyfriend. He's 53. Neither of us look a day over 35. I hear that nobody from my highschool year looks a day over 35. There's something in the water
I've always lived in a time warp. Sigh.

Yeah, that mag and M...serious culture shock I agree with you, though. Pet communication? Let me clear ghosts out of your house? Srsly? I can communicate with pets: "Get off that table! Sit. Lay down. Biscuit?"
You should have heard me try to describe Reiki: "You lay down and someone puts their hands over you, like this...and they channel the energy of the universe into you so you can heal things..."
Um, yeah and the community colon cleanse...that just threw him right over the edge.

The docs told him he's fine go home. He's not buying it, though; he says something isn't right. But he doesn't have an appt. till June 1st. Thanks for asking
Sorry about your DH...don't you just hate frustrated men? I dunno, I don't mean to sound sexist, but I've never seen one act any differently, with job frustration or illness. I hope yours finds his grounding soon.


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Btw...now I'm craving Lucky Charms. Maybe because they're magically delicious?
What DOK said.
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Aubergine- Its confusing because I am in love with both of them Was the TM question for me? Cause, no I didn't do one this year. I was so busy with work, unpacking and helping my ex-husband out with notifying his family that he went into the hospital, that I didn't do one. I have a vision board I made this summer to replace my old TM (that focused on my Ex-DH, etc) and I've been using that. I suppose I should make a new one?

I'm currently on the phone with Ex-DH. He just had his counseling appointment and is trying to either be readmitted to the hospital or do intensive outpatient PTSD treatment. I really hope he goes back into the hospital, he needs it so badly.

DBF and I had a really long talk last night about the fight we had. It was okay, but I was quite shocked to learn that he doesn't want me to be a SAHM unless he "is making like $20/hr" and he wants to get fixed if we have a child and its a girl because he would have one of each I'm trying to decide if I am okay with any of this........
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Happy birthdays, mama days, and healthy days!



eta- anyone remember the lucky charms with glow in the dark marshmallows? In college my friends and I ate boxes of that stuff (dorm cafeteria) to see if, you know, "other" stuff would glow. It wont. just in case you were curious.
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DoK - I hope it works out for you to have your mom near you. Visualizing you finding affordable, appropriate housing for her asap.

BellaLuna - yes the TM question was for you. I remembered your old posts about your last TM and relationship issue. Maybe vision-boarding or doing some kind of ritual for clarity and happiness might help right now? It is hard to remember to do the things we know might help when in times of stress.

Mental illness sucks. I hope your ex finds healing without doing more damage to others than he already has.

Unschoolin -- I want to learn runes too, not to use them, but just to know them. Writing in runes is a good idea. I was thinking of making a set - I have an old set, probably incomplete, made out of plastic, but they are not nice to handle, being plastic. I saw a site about making them in wood. I think clay might be nice, but not sure I have the skill set for that.
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DoK - I hope it works out for you to have your mom near you. Visualizing you finding affordable, appropriate housing for her asap.

BellaLuna - yes the TM question was for you. I remembered your old posts about your last TM and relationship issue. Maybe vision-boarding or doing some kind of ritual for clarity and happiness might help right now? It is hard to remember to do the things we know might help when in times of stress.

Mental illness sucks. I hope your ex finds healing without doing more damage to others than he already has.
I get paid tomorrow. I suppose I can set aside some money and create a new vision board. DBF might laugh @ me since I just brought my old one from my parents house.

I'll probably do a little visualization ritual when I take a bath tonight. Ahhh, bath time is so good for those lol.
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Older folks
When I said that, I guess I was thinking of my great aunt, who is in her mid-80's, is on Facebook, does yoga, is heavily involved with the historical society in her town, and just in general is pretty cool

Bella...I'm glad to see you back. What a situation, but from what I remember, you ex treated you pretty badly, and I think that you need to stay away from his toxicity. I understand loving your ex...I did that way too many times, instead of moving on from bad relationships, and it just brought me down further. I was much better off moving on, and I think you will be too. It just takes being very strong and determined.
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I have been so out of the loop, will there be pagan Summer Camps this year?
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BTW, episode 26 is an interview with some Australian Pagan named Tim Hartridge -- have you heard of him Cari?
Nope, neer heard of him. I'm fairly out of the pagan scene here as our brief involvement convinced me that the majority (at least locally) of the people we met were big noters on power trips.. and/or complete space cadets

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My mom just emailed me. She is now thinking of moving to either my town or one town over. Trouble is, my town has a one to two yr waiting list for low income senior housing.
Not sure what the next town over will be. (will call them tomorrow.)
It would be awesome to have her near.. but that's depressing about the wait!

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Aubergine- Its confusing because I am in love with both of them Was the TM question for me? Cause, no I didn't do one this year. I was so busy with work, unpacking and helping my ex-husband out with notifying his family that he went into the hospital, that I didn't do one. I have a vision board I made this summer to replace my old TM (that focused on my Ex-DH, etc) and I've been using that. I suppose I should make a new one?
I'm going to say this in the gentlest way I can... if you are still in love with your ex (as big a piece of crap as he was) should you really be even considering committing long term to anyone? It doesn't seem fair to any of the 3 of you IMO. And honestly, I see it destroying your current relationship if you continue 'helping' your ex .. eventually it will cease to be ok with your current bf.

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DBF and I had a really long talk last night about the fight we had. It was okay, but I was quite shocked to learn that he doesn't want me to be a SAHM unless he "is making like $20/hr" and he wants to get fixed if we have a child and its a girl because he would have one of each I'm trying to decide if I am okay with any of this........
I can't see why you would be ok with any of it... sounds a bit controlling to me. He doesn't get to dictate your family size etc... he gets to DISCUSS it with you, but not dictate. And .. well.. see above

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eta- anyone remember the lucky charms with glow in the dark marshmallows? In college my friends and I ate boxes of that stuff (dorm cafeteria) to see if, you know, "other" stuff would glow. It wont. just in case you were curious.
LMAO I do remember those.. and thinking.. ya know, glow in the dark food CANNOT be a good thing

Had a lovely day with the men folk today... schoolwork and outside time this morning then DH got home around 1130 and we all went to the shops, had a nice coffee (hot choccie for the boys ) and DH took the boys for a long play at the park while I did the grocery shopping. Then I zipped over to pick up the layby of winter clothes for the kids (winter = sleeves ) I got all 3 their first 'real' pair of jeans and they are so cute! Up until now they've always worn track pants (sweats type) or cargo pants... Jeans just make them look so grown up

Maia.. glad your back home safely! Hope you enjoyed your visit Would have been hilarious watching him look at that mag for sure!

I know I missed some other posts dangit... but I have to make toasted cheese sammiches for the kiddies so I'll try to catch them later!
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after spewing this morning i was laying in bed and looking at my TM and i noticed i put arizona on it. a job in mesa just came open that dh could totally do. he is himming and hawing about applying, it is with the company he worked at before (and teaches for on-line). i got canceled again last night, that is the 3rd week in a row i haven't worked. things are looking really really scary. i keep applying for jobs and so does he. he is now over qualified to shoot x-rays, and i am "too expensive" because of my experience. it is so f'ing crazy. who would think a nurse couldn't get a damn job.
i keep thinking something is going to happen, something good. this whole trip here to maine couldn't be for nothing. we couldn't have moved here to be homeless. maybe this was for us to grow closer, and then be open to new experiences, not be afraid to take a plunge, do something daring. i mean moving here on a wing and a prayer, well we have never done anything like that, EVER! and we did it. we totally stuck together. it has had it's ups and downs, but we are stronger as a couple. i know i seem to only share the bad, but we have had alot of good, so i think we can end this experiment, and not feel like failures.

h
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When I said that, I guess I was thinking of my great aunt, who is in her mid-80's, is on Facebook, does yoga, is heavily involved with the historical society in her town, and just in general is pretty cool
Oh, I was just teasing you. If you met me, I'm nowhere *near* what people think of as 50. Even me
My uncle is mid-80s and still plays tennis 3x a week, has a ponytail, travels the country, though he is "starting" to slow down, in his words His sister (these are my mom's siblings) just died at 84ish, and would have lived longer but she had medical issues and "hid" them. Their other brother is 70-something, or 80, and doing well. My mom is 73 and uber-vibrant. I've inherited her incredible skin
Their mother died at...95ish? All healthy, all vivacious. There's hope for me

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I'm going to say this in the gentlest way I can... if you are still in love with your ex (as big a piece of crap as he was) should you really be even considering committing long term to anyone? It doesn't seem fair to any of the 3 of you IMO. And honestly, I see it destroying your current relationship if you continue 'helping' your ex .. eventually it will cease to be ok with your current bf.

I can't see why you would be ok with any of it... sounds a bit controlling to me. He doesn't get to dictate your family size etc... he gets to DISCUSS it with you, but not dictate. And .. well.. see above

What Cari said.

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Maia.. glad your back home safely! Hope you enjoyed your visit Would have been hilarious watching him look at that mag for sure!
Thank you! Yeah, it's still making me giggle when I think of it. He saw some ad for colon cleansing on his TV this morning and wants me to look up the website. Um, no

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but I have to make toasted cheese sammiches for the kiddies so I'll try to catch them later!
YUMMM!!!! You had to say that. I've got two pieces of rye bread left, and lots of sharp cheddar

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who would think a nurse couldn't get a damn job.
Right? That is crazy. I'm glad y'all are keeping a good attitude. Maybe you're right about why you ended up in Maine on the fly. I like to think that way, too
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witchygrrl- Happy Birthday ( a day late ) I hope it was a good one!

BLR- Nice to see you again! FTR I agree with Cari's advice. It's tough, but such is life. I hope you have lots of happiness headed your way

I do not remember glow in the dark Lucky Charms. I do bet they are magically delicious- not! Personally I like Froot Loops

Mamaofthree- still spewing is a good sign of a sticky baby

Maia- the whole M and funky magazine description is too funny. Community colonic puts it over the edge.

Aubergine- I'm gonna check out those podcasts.

I went to bikram yoga last night, and I feel awesome! Light and stretchy and healthy.

Pagan Summer Camps- I dunno. Ideas anyone?
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Just popping in for a quick Hello. I'm reading and thinking of you all
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DoK, are there other towns surounding yours that she would be okay with? Maybe she should put in for all of them?

Thanks, saphire It was actually last week, but Maia brought it up again since she was with M. But as a good friend of mine says, she likes celebrating birthday months

As for Pagan Summer Camps, I think a good one would be about casting sacred space. I did a workshop a few years ago with some lovely women about the different ways to call the directions. So we did it multiple ways, and we reported on how the different resulting circles felt.
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Later, I put the kids to bed and put on a podcast while I got going on some work. I've been listening to T. Thorne Coyle's Pagan podcast series, Elemental Castings, after Koalamom ( I think) recommended Coyle's interview with Christopher Penczak a month or so back.

The whole series is AMAZING.


Happy birthday, daughter of Millie Ivy!
Ooh, thanks for the rec. And thanks for the happy birthday! She and my older son went to their fathers last night until monday, but I actually was invited to her bday party at his house this weekend. Which is huge. Those who remember me from years past (Bella Babe) may possibly remember how sucky our working relationship has been as parents. He still isn't all that nice, but he is communicating more, and this is just huge that he invited myself,my hubs and our son to her bday party/pool/spring bash.
I think my TM from 4 years ago is still working on it!

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Aubergine- Its confusing because I am in love with both of them Was the TM question for me? Cause, no I didn't do one this year. I was so busy with work, unpacking and helping my ex-husband out with notifying his family that he went into the hospital, that I didn't do one. I have a vision board I made this summer to replace my old TM (that focused on my Ex-DH, etc) and I've been using that. I suppose I should make a new one?

I'm currently on the phone with Ex-DH. He just had his counseling appointment and is trying to either be readmitted to the hospital or do intensive outpatient PTSD treatment. I really hope he goes back into the hospital, he needs it so badly.

DBF and I had a really long talk last night about the fight we had. It was okay, but I was quite shocked to learn that he doesn't want me to be a SAHM unless he "is making like $20/hr" and he wants to get fixed if we have a child and its a girl because he would have one of each I'm trying to decide if I am okay with any of this........
Oh, Bella, hugs. You know what? You may love your ex, but you can't make him a better person. You can't make him healthy, or kind, or a different person that will then be a decent partner for you. HE might be able to, and might do it someday. But your job is to work on/with yourself, not try to fix him. I would seriously urge you to consider staying away from him for a long while and letting him get healthy away from you. And you work on your own boundaries. Because it seems like he got back and tromped all over them. hugs, hugs, hugs.
As far as you BF goes, you may need to do some soul searching on that too. You really want kids, and you may decide you need to be with someone who is more open ended on deciding how many. Your partner should have a say, and it's his prerogative to have an opinion, but nothing says you have to be there and agree. :-)



Worked the job last night and all the crystal is intact! Worked later than I thought I would need to, so I am just getting up and around now. I may go garden with a friend later, pick up raw milk from a new farm, and possibly have dinner with my parents. Nice day!
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I'm feeling oddly....well today. BBs aren't sore, stomach is fine. Not that hungry. Bad sign?

Dh has to go up for this new job tomorrow, I hope he does well.

I have to finish my final paper for this class and then I'll have only one more class left for a week and on the 31st, I'm graduated!!!
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Aubergine, I can't play the elemental castings download. :-( said I needed real player, which I thought I had but I dl it again and it still won't work. I'm going to contact the website, and hopefully I'll be able to hear them soon!
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I'm so excited! Going to see my favorite children's book author this evening. Woot!
I just wish she was doing a signing at a store that I get a bigger discount at. I only get an 8% discount at the little bookstore that the event is at.

But, at least I finally get to meet the author (we've been emailing each other back and forth.)
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