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post #21 of 44
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Originally Posted by infraread View Post
You shouldn't need it. Although, I believe it's up to the state you're located in.

Here in Ky, exemptions are supposed to just be for school admission, but my kids' ped (civilian, go figure!) insists on having a copy on file.
All I can find about TX only mentions schools and daycare.
post #22 of 44
I'm in PA, FWIW. My unvaxed six-year-old has been in the ER twice in the past two months. The first time, he ran into a pole at children's choir rehearsal at church and split his forehead. They said "Is he up to date on his vaccinations?" I said "We don't vax." They never mentioned it again.

The second time was last weekend. He had a freaky rash that spread very quickly and looked like it was eating his face off. His not being vaxed got us seen really quickly. But really, they didn't say anything. The doc did ask more detailed questions about whether he had been vaxed against measles. I said no and he didn't pressure me in any way. It turned out to be a rather aggressive form of impetigo.
post #23 of 44
The form is for schools and such. You don't need to show it to the doctor or the ER staff or carry it on your person or anything. It's not illegal to not vaccinate - it's simply a requirement to have certain vaccinations to enter most schools (or some camps, daycares, etc.), or have a waiver.
post #24 of 44
I also think it's important to remember that, in general, people in the medical profession really are not looking to "torture" your baby. Honestly. I have 4 kids and they've all spent their fair share of time in doctor's offices, emergency rooms, and hospitals, and I've yet to experience someone trying to punish us for not vaccinating by ordering extra tests and procedures. I'm not saying it's never happened, but in that case, you would have the right to refuse or seek out a second opinion.
post #25 of 44
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I also think it's important to remember that, in general, people in the medical profession really are not looking to "torture" your baby. Honestly. I have 4 kids and they've all spent their fair share of time in doctor's offices, emergency rooms, and hospitals, and I've yet to experience someone trying to punish us for not vaccinating by ordering extra tests and procedures. I'm not saying it's never happened, but in that case, you would have the right to refuse or seek out a second opinion.
Intellectually I know that...but emotionally? Yeah, I get that "mama bear" thing really bad.
post #26 of 44
Me too.
post #27 of 44
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Originally Posted by laohaire View Post
The form is for schools and such. You don't need to show it to the doctor or the ER staff or carry it on your person or anything. It's not illegal to not vaccinate - it's simply a requirement to have certain vaccinations to enter most schools (or some camps, daycares, etc.), or have a waiver.
heh. I know that and you know that....
post #28 of 44
I'm in San Antonio. I've taken ds to the urgent care three times this year and his doctor once and they did not ask about vaccinations. His previous ped is non-vax friendly as well.
post #29 of 44
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Originally Posted by annettemarie View Post
I also think it's important to remember that, in general, people in the medical profession really are not looking to "torture" your baby. Honestly. I have 4 kids and they've all spent their fair share of time in doctor's offices, emergency rooms, and hospitals, and I've yet to experience someone trying to punish us for not vaccinating by ordering extra tests and procedures. I'm not saying it's never happened, but in that case, you would have the right to refuse or seek out a second opinion.
Good lord yeah. I like taking care of kids & babies the LEAST. No one, no one in their right mind would do anything to 'punish' a child for a vaccination status.

All the emerg docs I work with hem & haw, and sigh and generally dislike ordering lab work and x-rays for kids. It's definitely not a fun part of the job...
post #30 of 44
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Originally Posted by honey-lilac View Post
DS had cut his head open and the doctors were tripping all over themselves trying to convince me he needed a tetanus shot. I didn't object in the least and they said that they were very relieved because they assumed I would put up a fight. To me a tetanus shot for an injury, and the normal vax schedule stuff are different animals altogether.
wrong. the tetanus shot is useless in an emergency. the dr's should have given TIG, not a tetanus vax. you may want to brush up on that.

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Originally Posted by AFWife View Post
Question: I can opt out for religious and phil reasons here...do I have to have the form on me at all times or just say, "I don't believe in it for my child" and be done with it?
why would you carry your vax exemption with you? there is no law that says children must be vaxed. there are school board regulations that say in order for a child to attend school or daycare they must either submit a vax record or exemption form. you turn the exemption in to the registrar at school and go on your way. it's not like a drivers license or something.


ETA: i guess i may be the only one who was sitting on the bed holding ds while the curtain filled with med staff who surrounded my bed and repeatedly asked questions about why i didnt vax and threatened to call my exdh to get permission and tell me i was 5 mins away from having CPS called. after that, i learned to just lie and say my kids are UTD.
post #31 of 44
Two of my kids have been to the ER for various things (stomach pain, injuries, etc.) and they ask our vax status, I tell them we don't vax, life goes on. Never been given grief and I am certainly not in anything even slightly considered a "crunchy" area.
post #32 of 44
I dealt with an ER doc who tried to punish me via my child. It does happen. Trying to order a spinal tap for an ear infection was rather ridiculous.
post #33 of 44
Honestly, as much as I would hate for my children to have to undergo painful or invasive testing, I'd rather they be done to rule out suspected infections, instead of just being ruled out (and possibly overlooked) under the assumption that a vaccine did its job, kwim? We haven't had any ER visits yet, but when dd was born I got the "immediate spinal tap" lecture from the staff, and got a real kick out of their speechlessness when I asked "So, she's going to get more thorough care if she's not vaccinated?"
post #34 of 44
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I dealt with an ER doc who tried to punish me via my child. It does happen. Trying to order a spinal tap for an ear infection was rather ridiculous.
That's awful.

OTOH, I've seen a lumbar puncture ordered when the child appeared fine - aside from being febrile. Sometimes docs/nurses do things that may seem over the top, but there can be a reason behind it.

Perhaps I just work with a really good team? It's a very big hospital too - a level one trauma centre. All these ED horror stories are really upsetting... I feel awful.
post #35 of 44
We've only had a couple of ER trips in 9 years (at least at my house, I'm remarried and share custody with my older 3.) The first time my oldest had a stomach bug at 9 months and being a new parent I was worried she was getting dehydrated and took her in, no questions asked. Recently one of my twins ran into a staircase at her dad's house and her stepmom freaked out and wouldn't listen to me on the phone saying that head wounds bleed a lot but slow down and she was probably fine. So we had to meet them at the hospital because of our insurance. Of course it had stopped bleeding by the time they got there and after the doc checked her out and saw she was just fine, he was walking out and said "She's up to date on all her shots?" And I just replied "yep." That was the end of it. I have learned for my sanity that I do my best not to offer more information than is necessary. If it was a VPD then I would be completely honest but a head wound into a staircase does not warrant an MMR or a lecture as far as I'm concerned. The best part about that ER visit...we picked up H1N1.
post #36 of 44
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The best part about that ER visit...we picked up H1N1.
This is one of the many reasons I didn't do WBV for him. He would have been going to the clinic every couple of months during flu season...
post #37 of 44
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Originally Posted by lotusdebi View Post
I dealt with an ER doc who tried to punish me via my child. It does happen. Trying to order a spinal tap for an ear infection was rather ridiculous.
I had a similar experience with my oldest when we took her to the ER urgent care to get her ears looked at (after a few hours of a high fever-she had some ear infections before and I felt bad for her knowing how painful they could be). The doctor found out about her vax status and wanted to do a spinal tap. I said "no way". Some arguing ensued and we ended up being discharged.
post #38 of 44
i took 17mo ds to the ER for croup one night around 1am. he was drooling and crying and gagging and i was terrified. so i took him and the admitting nurse asked and i said he is not vaxed at all and she gave me a "look". then the ER doc asked and i said it was against our religion. he said "oh you are Jehovah witness" and i said kind of and gave him the feeling it wasn't up for discussion. he didn't say another thing. he gave ds an xray to check for epiglottisitis and then sent us home on tylenol.
post #39 of 44
I remember we were asked about our DD's vax status when she was almost 2 years old and has dislocated her elbow (popped it out of joint). I looked at the nurse like, "huh? what does that have to do with her elbow," and just said "delaying." Honestly, it's not even an open wound.
post #40 of 44
The only time dd needed to go to the ER, which was for stitches, I lied and told them she was vaxed. Considering we weren't there for an illness dx I felt no guilt for lying.
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