Soy isflavones help - Page 9

[Sourire]

I found this info here: http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/uk094.pdf

Average isoflavone content of various soy foods — 100 grams (3.3 ounces)
● Boiled soybeans — 54 mg
● Tofu — 28 mg
● Soy hot dogs — 15 mg
● Soy milk — 10 mg
● Soy mozzarella — 8 mg
● Soy sausage — 4 mg
● Soy nuts — 9 mg or 79 mg per 28 ounces
● Gardenburger Lifeburger — 50 mg in 6 ounces
● Soy Sensations Nutrition Bar — 60 mg in 2 ounces
● Soy flour — 0.1–0.4 mg/g or 20 mg per half cup (50 grams)
● Soy protein concentrate — 0.01– 0.2 mg/g
● Soy oil — none
● Soy sauce — none

So I guess if you want say 100mg of soy isoflavones, that would be equivalent to drinking about 33oz or a bit more than 4 cups of soy milk a day.

[Logan]

I dont think there are enough isoflavones in soy products to really make a difference. Unless you ate tonnes of soy all day long. The pills are concentrated extractions. 

[bootsvalentine]

Started soy isos today, just 40 mg on CD 3.

[Attached2Elijah]

Was anyone else INCREDIBLY emotional during O with soy? I feel like I'm losing my marbles.... 

[Sweet.Bee]

Originally Posted by Attached2Elijah 

Was anyone else INCREDIBLY emotional during O with soy? I feel like I'm losing my marbles.... 

I don't know if I am more emotional than usual since I'm always pretty emotional.  Though my uterus/ovary/etc area feels like its served as a battleground.

I think the soy may have made me ovulate sooner. Here's my chart:

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2e2172

I'm only not sure because I never got a + OPK this cycle. Just a couple almost positives and now they're lighter again. And also because I'm sick (though no fever according to my fever thermometer). 

But an O on CD18 would be awesome. It's usually around CD24-ish. And look at that jump! :) I usually just get boring slow rises.

How is everyone else doing?

[Attached2Elijah]

Wow, that is a nice jump!!! My OPK didn't get very dark this time either... wonder if it's a side effect of the soy? I O'd LATE last night so my temp isn't showing it yet but I definitely FELT it like never before. Yowch!!! It's not any earlier then usual though... but I did have some AWESOME EWCM which I rarely get ... and this time was a good, solid 3 days worth of it! Woohoo! I did notice myself showing symptoms of O MUCH MUCH earlier then usual though... so I think the extra estrogen DEFINITELY helped my body to do what it is supposed to do, yay!

[lavatea]

Originally Posted by Attached2Elijah 

Wow, that is a nice jump!!! My OPK didn't get very dark this time either... wonder if it's a side effect of the soy? I O'd LATE last night so my temp isn't showing it yet but I definitely FELT it like never before. Yowch!!! It's not any earlier then usual though... but I did have some AWESOME EWCM which I rarely get ... and this time was a good, solid 3 days worth of it! Woohoo! I did notice myself showing symptoms of O MUCH MUCH earlier then usual though... so I think the extra estrogen DEFINITELY helped my body to do what it is supposed to do, yay!

I'm moody and thought I felt some O pain over the past few days (just off and on). But EWCM has yet to show. I O'ed on CD 14 or 16 last cycle and usually O on CD 17. I'm on CD 12 now. I really should be showing some fertile CM by now, I think. My cervix has softened and opened already though. And that started several days ago. My temp was still way low. Here's my chart if anyone is interested.

[MommyMatsumoto]

I may be joining you ladies and start taking soy isos for cycle 10 if AF shows up tomorrow.  I like Karma's recommendation and think I'll do that!

Congrats to all the BFPs!  I recognize some of you from The One thread and I'm thrilled to see you've conceived!

[lavatea]

I'm so frustrated! I had some EWCM, or at least watery CM, yesterday. Today has been bone dry! I looked back at my paper charts and some months don't have as much fertile CM as others, but this is nuts. My temp plummeted this morning (96.5). And to top it off, I'm getting sick. I've been avoiding medicines b/c I didn't want to compound the poor CM problem by drying it up with medicine, but I'm giving in now. I just feel too bad.

Today is CD 14 for me so I'm still 3 days away from my average O day, but since O was a little earlier last month I was hoping it would be the same this month - especially with the soy to help. Anyway, it's not over until it's over, but I feel like it's over before it begins, IYKWIM. I'm already looking ahead to next month and figuring if I'm going to adjust the soy.

How's it working out for the rest of you?

[yellowdart]

Hiya soy ladies.  I took 40 mg SI on CD 4 - 8 this cycle.  It's my third cycle TTC after stopping BC.  My O day was maybe a day or so earlier than last month, but nothing majorly different (CD 17 or 18).  I had kinda a slow rise, which is different.  I'm 6 or 7 DPO today.  I do feel like my boobs are more tender than usual, and I've definitely had ovary pangs this week.  Has anyone else had more intense symptoms in the 2ww after taking soy?

I'm hoping to wait till next weekend to test.

Chart:  http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/312802  I don't really trust FF's O date or coverline this month.

[Sweet.Bee]

Ah, grrr. So, I didn't ovulate earlier with soy, it turns out. Those 2 days of high temps were just a fever from this confounded flu because it came right down again.

I just got a + OPK this morning on CD23, so that puts me at O probably on CD25, if I follow my usual pattern. That's when I usually O nowadays. Sigh.

But I'm still happy that I will O soon! I hate the wait.

[Attached2Elijah]

Well, for me... I am loving soy. It was frustrating at first because I THOUGHT I was going to O early since I got O signs sooooo much earlier then I usually do (CD 12) but I O'd right around when I normally do (CD 17) ... However, normally I have little to no EWCM... this month, I had TONS for *3* days!!! I also had some very strong O pains... I usually do anyway but these were different and more centered and pinchy as where my normal ones feel more like AF cramps. Also, I am normally a slow riser and have a hard time pin-pointing exactly when O happened. Not so this month... take a look at my chart. There's NO slow rise about that baby! LOL! I know, without a doubt, that I O'd VERY late CD 16 - very early morning CD 17. It's so nice when FF agrees with me! :)

I was MEAN as heck to DH on CD 9-12ish and had some headaches the first couple of days I was taking the soy but other then that, no ill side effects. I think I love Soy!

[lavatea]

Originally Posted by lavatea 

I'm so frustrated! I had some EWCM, or at least watery CM, yesterday. Today has been bone dry! I looked back at my paper charts and some months don't have as much fertile CM as others, but this is nuts. My temp plummeted this morning (96.5). And to top it off, I'm getting sick. I've been avoiding medicines b/c I didn't want to compound the poor CM problem by drying it up with medicine, but I'm giving in now. I just feel too bad.

Today is CD 14 for me so I'm still 3 days away from my average O day, but since O was a little earlier last month I was hoping it would be the same this month - especially with the soy to help. Anyway, it's not over until it's over, but I feel like it's over before it begins, IYKWIM. I'm already looking ahead to next month and figuring if I'm going to adjust the soy.

How's it working out for the rest of you?

Yesterday stayed a dry day. Temp jumped this morning so I may have O'ed. Some EWCM showed up today so far, though, so I really don't know. I feel so sick, but I'm hoping DH and I can BD anyway, just in case.

[MountainMamaGC]

I did. My nipples were so sore, starting at 2 DPO. I also had stronger O pains.
 

Originally Posted by yellowdart 

Hiya soy ladies.  I took 40 mg SI on CD 4 - 8 this cycle.  It's my third cycle TTC after stopping BC.  My O day was maybe a day or so earlier than last month, but nothing majorly different (CD 17 or 18).  I had kinda a slow rise, which is different.  I'm 6 or 7 DPO today.  I do feel like my boobs are more tender than usual, and I've definitely had ovary pangs this week.  Has anyone else had more intense symptoms in the 2ww after taking soy?

I'm hoping to wait till next weekend to test.

Chart:  http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/312802  I don't really trust FF's O date or coverline this month.

[lavatea]

Just an update: EWCM went crazy in the afternoon yesterday. Cervix was still favorable. Got a BD session in, and my BBT was down this morning, so I think the spike yesterday was b/c of being sick. Hoping everything returns to normal now. OH! And I had some MAJOR O pains last night. I almost cried. I've been having O pains, but this was intense.

[MommyMatsumoto]

I'm on my second day of taking soy... so far, so good.  I've had a bit of nausea and was really emotional yesterday, but seem to be doing okay for now.  I was wondering though... does anyone know about the effect of alcohol and soy isos?  I'm wondering if a glass of red wine or a cocktail will have an effect.  I had a flavored martini at a Christmas party tonight and even a couple of hours later I still feel nauseous.

[MountainMamaGC]

I have mixed soy iso and alcohol with no issues.
 

Originally Posted by MommyMatsumoto 

I'm on my second day of taking soy... so far, so good.  I've had a bit of nausea and was really emotional yesterday, but seem to be doing okay for now.  I was wondering though... does anyone know about the effect of alcohol and soy isos?  I'm wondering if a glass of red wine or a cocktail will have an effect.  I had a flavored martini at a Christmas party tonight and even a couple of hours later I still feel nauseous.