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snacks for a 1.5 and almost 4?

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
I need some high calorie/nutrient dense snacks I can make for my boys.

DS1 especially only eats a little at a time, and he's always craving carbs. He's been showing the effects of low blood sugar, and I must get somehting better into him, but I'm at a loss.

I'd like the snacks to be-

portable
not too messy
high fat or protein, and...

something I could hide veggies in.
post #2 of 27
My three year old loves peanuts and cashews. He prefers carbs like your DS, but I won't let him snack on them all the time. He also likes apple or pear slices and cheese. We make a lot of smoothies with milk kefir or coconut milk and fruit, but I have definitely put veggies in them too. I usually put the smoothies in a cup with a lid and a straw, so that way would meet your portable/not messy requirement. What about making little meatballs? You could slip some kind of veggie into the mixture and then maybe offer something to dip them in? Speaking of dip, my kiddos like hummus and will eat almost any veggie I offer if they can eat it with lots of hummus. HTH!
post #3 of 27
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Originally Posted by heidirk View Post
I need some high calorie/nutrient dense snacks I can make for my boys.

DS1 especially only eats a little at a time, and he's always craving carbs. He's been showing the effects of low blood sugar, and I must get somehting better into him, but I'm at a loss.

I'd like the snacks to be-

portable
not too messy
high fat or protein, and...

something I could hide veggies in.
i just must say-i love that in this forum the term high calories/nutrient dense is a thing to aim for, its so awesome!

my 1.5 year old loves a spoon of 1/2 peanut or almond butter, half grassfed butter.

cheese of all kinds; double cream brie was a fav, now she likes stinky blues, sharp cheddars, string cheese.

meat. rib eye steak bits, chopped very small and sometimes i pre-chew em.

plain whole/total greek yogurt (its made with 1/2 and 1/2 by fage brand) mixed with frozen blueberries and perhaps 1/4 a tsp honey or maple syrup. ok that one is really messy.

bacon.
eggs.
fritattas.

on the veggies concern, according to dr thomas cowan, www.fourfoldhealing.com, children actually dont digest veggies all that well and have a very hard time getting nutrients from them. he suggests lots of grassfed milk products and meats and not getting too worried about veg.
post #4 of 27
Almond or coconut flour muffins.
post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
aha! muffins they WILL eat! teehee. I do have some good muffins recipes. I can sub almond flour in them. We do bacon- DS1 LOOOOves it. strangely, he will only eat egg WHITES tho' what is THAT about??


organic mw momma- thanks for that link! I have been concerned about ony getting veggies into them if it's veggie juice, so I'll be all over that link!

my baby love- thx for the reminder about nuts- DS1 LOVES nuts- cashews especially, and I do need to get some smoothie type stuff happening around here.

OK, we do organic raw milk yogurt. I usually mix in a touch of maple syrup for DS2, DS1 doesn't like it, he prefers fruit blended in, which is simple.


They're going through a stretch where they aren't eating much and that always makes me anxious- what gets into them HAS to be the best!

thanks- and keep ideas coming, please!
post #6 of 27
smoked trout, its so yummy, portable and nutritious.
post #7 of 27
my almost 2yo likes scrambled eggs with cheese, raisins, meat dipped in NTs ketchup recipe and peanut butter/honey spoons. its hard not to use crackers i need a good recipe
post #8 of 27
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Originally Posted by figmama View Post
my almost 2yo likes scrambled eggs with cheese, raisins, meat dipped in NTs ketchup recipe and peanut butter/honey spoons. its hard not to use crackers i need a good recipe
my 1.5 yo loves nut butter plain on a spoon, too. we just do not buy crackers so they're never desired! occaisionally i let her have a small rice/nut cracker but she spits em out after sucking off the salt, lol. scrambeled eggs are the best, we like em w/grated cheese and salsa as well.
post #9 of 27
Thread Starter 
they're not big on eggs...which I can't figure out b/c I love 'em.

tiny guy goes, 'egg-ahs'!!! but then he just mashes them in his fists and throws them.

big guy only wants egg-whites! head

I made baked oatmeal, with butter, molasses, brown rice syrup, spelt and oats...and eggs... tiny guy LOVED it... big guy wouldn't touch it- said it was the wrong color.

He's eaten so little for three days... he had a HUGE hypoglycemic fit right after he took a nap today...it took all of my momma tricks to get him to take some veggie/fruit juice so that he'd feel well enough to eat. then he had some cheese, some sourdough toast with butter and peanut butter, and some whole wheat noodles drowned in butter. then some milk and some applesauce. I feel good about what he did eat...but why does he let it get this far?
post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by figmama View Post
my almost 2yo likes scrambled eggs with cheese, raisins, meat dipped in NTs ketchup recipe and peanut butter/honey spoons. its hard not to use crackers i need a good recipe
You might try Wasa crispbread, which are like crackers. we buy the sourdough rye version. Not sure howTF it is, but since it's based on the bread traditionally eaten in Finland and Sweden, I think it probably is.
post #11 of 27
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Originally Posted by heidirk View Post
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He's eaten so little for three days... he had a HUGE hypoglycemic fit right after he took a nap today...it took all of my momma tricks to get him to take some veggie/fruit juice so that he'd feel well enough to eat. then he had some cheese, some sourdough toast with butter and peanut butter, and some whole wheat noodles drowned in butter. then some milk and some applesauce. I feel good about what he did eat...but why does he let it get this far?
kids do tend to start being picky around age 3-4. somehow they actually continue to grow and thrive!

i will say, from having an older kid whom i allowed to eat lots of whole grain breads, whole wheat crackers, and lots of other grain-heavy/carbohydrate foods, and now having a young one who eats these more rarely (if ever, we dont eat gluten and she does not eat bread at all), the difference in her likes is vast compared to her brother who was allowed plenty of whole grain crackers, noodles etc. my daghter geninely enjoys meats, cheeses, berries, yogurt etc, whereas her brother was more into crackers.

kids naturally enjoy carbs, its not a bad thing per sey, but too much grains/carbs/bread can fill them up and make them unable to eat more nutrient-dense foods like meats, cheeses, healthy fats, eggs, vegetables, whole fruits, etc. even if the wheat noodles and bread have butter, the majority of the nutrition in those meals is refined carbs (yes, even whole wheat noodles are refined/processed), not much protien or vitamins and minerals found in plants and animal foods. im speaking from the experience of allowing my first to eat lots of the grains and breads and he had severe tooth decay and became very picky and only wanted carbs like crackers and noodles, im hoping to avoid that with my toddler.
post #12 of 27
I like the sesame sticks that you get at TJ's or the health food store. I'm not sure if you can make your own ... but might be worth a try!

like this:
http://www.nutsonline.com/snacks/ses...cks/plain.html
post #13 of 27
My boys are the same age. I have a copy of Kitchen Stewardships "Healthy snacks to go" and there are some great recipes in there! Including over a dozen variations of larabar type snacks, protein bars and a bunch of other stuff. I've liked everything I tried so far. Well worth the money!

http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/20...k-now-on-sale/
post #14 of 27
Salmon cakes you can use fresh salmon or canned.

Sardines on crackers? DD loves crackers so I will let her have some If I can add something nutritive to them like sardines. I also make a homemade dressing that i put over the top of the sardines which she adores!

I buy sprouted corn tortillas from whole foods and fry them in coconut oil, sprinkle sea salt to make homemade chips! This one is a great unmessy one
post #15 of 27
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organic midwestmomma- I want to get him off the grains. I am so. frustrated.

Nothign I make is a guarantee. I can cook- I LVOE to cook, I make nutritious, flavorful (but not spicy) meals...and they juts sit there.

I do not know how far to take the whole, 'oh just don't give them the stuff you don't want to eat- they'll eat if they get hungry enough' b/c for a hypoglycemic kid- the opposite is true- the hungrier he is, past a certain point, the less likely it is he'll atually eat.

I was going to try the sneaky way- just making things less and less sweet and more fat/protein proportionately gradually until they're eating what I want them too.

ETA- the fish- he doesn't like.
post #16 of 27
he reminds me of me a lot. i never recognized myself as being hungry before or during falling apart and then would get so hungry food repulsed me.

Maybe in addition to good food, you can work with him on recognizing when he's hungry. It took me a long time to learn to recognize that I was hungry WHEN I was falling apart, and too past hungry to want to eat. Then I started learning to recognize about 2 minutes before I was about to fall apart, and that I had to force myself to eat something. Now, (at 20), I know about... 10 minutes before I'm about to fall apart, that I'm hungry and need to eat NOW. (admitedly, I fall apart less drastically than as a child, but I still do fall apart). (and even then it's like, oh, I think I'll need to eat within the hour. And then 5 minutes later, I realize I have to eat something within minutes, and then sometimes if I'm out and can't find anything decent, I DO fall apart a bit. But I know to force myself to eat something.)

That said, be cause I eat more fat and less carbs, and because I make a concerted effort to eat regular meals and snacks (because I often don't "register" as hungry til AFTER I start eating), I don't hit "ten minutes before I'm going to fall apart from hunger" as often.

I think helping your son learn that "falling apart and not wanting to eat" actually means he IS hungry even if it doesn't feel like it, will help. I remember my mom telling me over and over again when I was falling apart, I know you don't feel hungry, but you fall apart when you get hungry, and need to eat. It definitely wasn't fast, but it helped over time.

For hypoglycemia, what I found worked (when I was younger) was a small bit of sugary snack (like a banana. banana was my food of choice to "make me hungry" or rather, realize I was hungry. I didn't want to eat it but I choked it down.), and then a nice snack of real food (which with what I know now, would include plenty of fat and protein. cheese is awesome.) the banana was somehow easier to choke down when food sounded disgusting, and gave a quick rush of sugar, which while not good for hypoglycemia, quickly made me feel truely hungry for some real food. It made me stop being crabby almost instantly as well.

Also you recognizing when he is getting hungry, before he falls apart and doesn't want to eat. He'll probably have signs (getting crabby, getting hyper, whatever).

If he's like me, the "reason he let's it get that far" is he may not recognize his crabbiness as hungry, and he may not feel himself getting hungry. I find that I'm not very in tune with my body in terms of bodily needs. I don't realize conciously (or I ignore it because what i'm doing is more interesting), until a bodily need is very very desperate, whether I'm desperately hungry, or have to run to the restroom. I imagine at 3, the world is much more fascinating and it's easier to get caught up, and harder to remember to pay attention to your body.

(on the eggs, I'm curious, does he not eat yolks at all? or not seperately? like do scrambled eggs have to be all whites, or just dishes where they aren't mixed? I always hated the texture of egg yolks as a kid, but scrambled eggs were fine. I think my mom overcooked the egg yolks. 6 minute eggs have a different texture and color yolks.)

HTH
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by heidirk View Post
organic midwestmomma- I want to get him off the grains. I am so. frustrated.

Nothign I make is a guarantee. I can cook- I LVOE to cook, I make nutritious, flavorful (but not spicy) meals...and they juts sit there.

I do not know how far to take the whole, 'oh just don't give them the stuff you don't want to eat- they'll eat if they get hungry enough' b/c for a hypoglycemic kid- the opposite is true- the hungrier he is, past a certain point, the less likely it is he'll atually eat.

I was going to try the sneaky way- just making things less and less sweet and more fat/protein proportionately gradually until they're eating what I want them too.

ETA- the fish- he doesn't like.
that sounds so hard. all can say, from my experience of having a child who only wanted grains/carbs, is they are "hypoglycemc" because of the refined/quickly digesed sugars (and even whole grains turn to sugar in the bloodstream) they are eating, so eating more of these foods creates a viceous cycle of craving, blood-sugar crashing, and then feeding the beast so to speak.

i cant tell you what to do but i have noticed with my son if i only offer cheese, nuts, meats, etc. for a snack, when he is begging for junk, he will eat the healthy foods if he is truly hungry. he may cry, because sugar, and even refined grans like noodles can be addictive, but after a chunk of cheese or something he will calm down and feel better. i am not saying kids shouldnt ever eat carbs, but grains and sugar arent very nutrient-laden and do cause problems for many kids. low sugar fruits lke berries, and lower sugar starches like butternut squash are healthier carbs in my opinion then bread, crackers, noodles etc.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by organicmidwestmama View Post
that sounds so hard. all can say, from my experience of having a child who only wanted grains/carbs, is they are "hypoglycemc" because of the refined/quickly digesed sugars (and even whole grains turn to sugar in the bloodstream) they are eating, so eating more of these foods creates a viceous cycle of craving, blood-sugar crashing, and then feeding the beast so to speak.

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post #19 of 27
I'm in the same boat with my kids.

I make quinoa porridge (quinoa made the traditional way, with extra milk and water, then stir in egg yolks after it's cooled a bit - add honey or syrup before serving, or cinnamon) which is higher in protein and gluten-free, and technically it's not a grain.

Also meatballs are great for hiding grated liver in.

My guy is also addicted to carbs, it's tough but so worth the effort to get them off. Honestly I think grains are a lot worse then carbs, healthier carbs like yams, veggies, potatoes, some fruits, etc. aren't so bad. My kids react to the grains, we are now grain-free.
post #20 of 27
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I'm in the same boat with my kids.

I make quinoa porridge (quinoa made the traditional way, with extra milk and water, then stir in egg yolks after it's cooled a bit - add honey or syrup before serving, or cinnamon) which is higher in protein and gluten-free, and technically it's not a grain.

Also meatballs are great for hiding grated liver in.

My guy is also addicted to carbs, it's tough but so worth the effort to get them off. Honestly I think grains are a lot worse then carbs, healthier carbs like yams, veggies, potatoes, some fruits, etc. aren't so bad. My kids react to the grains, we are now grain-free.
MMMMM can you share how you prepare your quinoa porridge?

I agree on the yams, veggies, etc I with extra butter
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