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post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by Altair View Post
Ahh, my local one is $29,000. Yea, you read that right.

http://www.bhmsny.org/admissions/tui...nancialaid.asp
OMG! DH's daughter paid nearly that much for a M school in Brooklyn, but then realized that they were Montessori in name only and withdrew. That's just ridiculous!!

DD's school is no where near as expensive as those mentioned here. I think it's around 500-600 for full-time. BUT the building is paid off, and the house next door used to be part of the school, and they rent it out for additional income. The director opened the school in 1975 and still runs it. She is really sensitive about raising tuition, not wanting to put M education out of reach of so many people. It is very small and very traditional. When DH lost his job and I couldn't afford the tuition anymore, the director worked out a work agreement. So for the past two summers I have been painting the school in exchange for 100% tuition for both girls. Life saver!
post #22 of 35
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Thanks for all of the great replies. Helps to know that I'm not the only one who thinks this is nuts. And it also helps to know that as steep as the tuition is where I live, it could be much worse.

It looks like we'll just stick with the plan- if we're in a high cost of living area, we'll live in a more modest home. We'll also keep looking to relocate to a community with a lower cost of living.

One other question- are you encountering LONG waiting lists at your local M schools? This seems to be the case where we live.
post #23 of 35
My DS's tuition is $820/mo for half days. It is expensive for us. We sacrifice on other things to afford it.

Waiting lists in our area kind of depend on the economy, really. A few years ago, all of the schools had really long waiting lists. Now, not so much. The "good" schools (not just Montessori) still have waiting lists, but not as long.
post #24 of 35
Yes, its too expensive. My girls are in a public Montessori. I am very grateful that they are able to go there. It is much better than the regular public school that my oldest attended for a year. But there are so many things that are not really Montessori. They compromise in so many ways in order to meet state standards. I know my kids are lucky to have even a sort of Montessori school, but I wish they could go to a school that was fully a Montessori school because I'm really sold on the method.

But, unfortunately, Montessori has really turned into something for rich families only. Even if we somehow found scholarship money, I would feel pretty bad about sending my children to schools that are almost entirely white and upper class when our community is so diverse.
post #25 of 35
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Originally Posted by sparklett View Post
One other question- are you encountering LONG waiting lists at your local M schools? This seems to be the case where we live.
There's been a huge baby boom where I live over the past decade or so, so all of the preschools around here are ridiculously hard to get into, with waiting lists and whatnot. It's not NYC level craziness, with interviews and tests... registration is either first come first serve, in which case people sit in their cars overnight, or lotteries.

At the fancy shmancy private preschool in my town, that costs something like $25k a year, a few years ago someone told me that there were 25 siblings applying for the 18-child class, including two sets of triplets and a few sets of twins. And that doesn't include the lord-knows-how-many new families that applied that year.
post #26 of 35
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At the fancy shmancy private preschool in my town, that costs something like $25k a year, a few years ago someone told me that there were 25 siblings applying for the 18-child class, including two sets of triplets and a few sets of twins. And that doesn't include the lord-knows-how-many new families that applied that year.
My kids' school has a very large number of twins and I think its because admission is done by lottery and twins are drawn as one number. My oldest got in after several spaces opened up because a family with two sets of twins left.
post #27 of 35
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But, unfortunately, Montessori has really turned into something for rich families only. Even if we somehow found scholarship money, I would feel pretty bad about sending my children to schools that are almost entirely white and upper class when our community is so diverse.

Maybe it is just where we live, but one of the things I really like about my son's Montessori school is that it is so diverse. "White" students make up less than half the student population and as the children have studied geography, parents from different countries have come in to talk to the class. Also, there are certainly "rich" people at DS's school, but there are also a lot of parents who aren't "rich" and give up a lot to afford tuition. Sure, some Montessori schools are all "white" and "rich", but not all.
post #28 of 35
In contrast with the other private schools in our area, the Montessori school seems cheap. Not to say that $8,300 a year for Kindergarten is cheap, but compare that to $14,100; $17,402; and $18,525, the tuition costs for the other three respected (non-Montessori) private schools in our area (South Florida).

And, again, those are just the costs for Kindergarten! Our Montessori school goes up to 8th grade. For 8th graders, the tuition only climbs up to $9,550, a difference of $1250 from K, but for the most expensive school, 8th grade costs $21,100 -- almost $3000 more than K and $11,550 more than the Montessori school!!!

We do have two schools in the public district -- one brand new opening this fall -- designated as Montessori magnets, but it strikes me that they unfortunately still have to comprise what Montessori really is with things like annual testing, formal grades, etc. So I guess it is what it is. I can't really blame private schools for providing a service and then charging for it. Though clearly some are really charging for it!
post #29 of 35
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Maybe it is just where we live, but one of the things I really like about my son's Montessori school is that it is so diverse. "White" students make up less than half the student population and as the children have studied geography, parents from different countries have come in to talk to the class. Also, there are certainly "rich" people at DS's school, but there are also a lot of parents who aren't "rich" and give up a lot to afford tuition. Sure, some Montessori schools are all "white" and "rich", but not all.
The town that I live in is pretty "white" and fairly wealthy, and I was surprised to notice that a disproportionately high percentage of the kids in the private schools around here are both racial and religious minorities. A mother of biracial children, who go to one of the private schools, told me that the schools in my town are famous for discriminating against minority students. I was really saddened to hear that. Unfortunately, I don't think that it's rare either. Every few years there's a story about a school district in a tony Boston suburb putting the black child of very wealthy town residents on the bus for the kids who participate in the program where they enroll city kids (who are almost all black) in the suburban schools in order to increase the suburban school's diversity. There is no question that these incidents are entirely about the race of the student in question, and the assumption that if he isn't white, then he must not belong in our town.

Racial diversity is just one aspect of a diverse community, but on the other hand I'm not sure how much economic diversity she'd come into contact with at the normal preschools around here. I am young and poor for my town, and all my friends who are young and poor have two working parents and their kids are in daycare. Being able to SAH, and thus send your child to one of the regular half-day preschools around here, is definitely a luxury that requires a lot of money (how we manage is a long story). We are making HUGE sacrifices to send our kids to a Montessori school, but I think it's worth it.

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In contrast with the other private schools in our area, the Montessori school seems cheap. Not to say that $8,300 a year for Kindergarten is cheap, but compare that to $14,100; $17,402; and $18,525, the tuition costs for the other three respected (non-Montessori) private schools in our area (South Florida).

We do have two schools in the public district -- one brand new opening this fall -- designated as Montessori magnets, but it strikes me that they unfortunately still have to comprise what Montessori really is with things like annual testing, formal grades, etc. So I guess it is what it is. I can't really blame private schools for providing a service and then charging for it. Though clearly some are really charging for it!
Your first paragraph is the same situation for our town. The Montessori school here is 1/3 the price of most of the other private schools in my area. The only private schools that are cheaper are the Catholic ones, and I believe they're subsidized by the parish? Not being Catholic, and being pretty horrified right now about a particular discriminatory incident that involves the Catholic elementary school in my town as well as past issues with that school, I would never ever send my kids there.

As to the second paragraph, I wanted to add that I don't think most private schools are really money making enterprises. Like, if you want to strike it rich, opening a private preschool probably isn't the way to go When you think about how much rent, maintenance, utilities, insurance, licensing, teacher salaries (and Montessori schools usually have a high teacher:student ratio), and the materials cost, I think that most Montessori private schools probably charge the least they can without going into the red.
post #30 of 35
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As to the second paragraph, I wanted to add that I don't think most private schools are really money making enterprises. Like, if you want to strike it rich, opening a private preschool probably isn't the way to go When you think about how much rent, maintenance, utilities, insurance, licensing, teacher salaries (and Montessori schools usually have a high teacher:student ratio), and the materials cost, I think that most Montessori private schools probably charge the least they can without going into the red.
Oh, I totally agree, in regards to our Montessori school anyway. For whatever reason, unfortunately, it is not particularly popular down here. In fact, there isn't even a waiting list. It seems like such a small yet wonderful enterprise that it's kind of surprising that their tuition is what is it. And I think they have every right to ask for it. I guess I didn't do a good job communicating that in my original post.

As to the other private schools...LOL. They don't strike me as quite so altruistic.
post #31 of 35
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At the M. that's closest to us there is a great deal of diversity, which is great to see. I really don't want DS to live in some sort of weird "white" bubble. We know people who work there, so it looks like DS will be put at the top of the waiting list. The tuition is just over $500 a month for 3 days a week and it's an hour away, but after reading all of your posts I think we'll go ahead and do it.

We're between jobs right now, so I'm going to cash out some investments to pay for it. I've never touched our investments before and it's so not cool, but I think it'll be worth it, especially since the only preschool that is close to us is giving me the willies (I'm about to post a new thread about that).

Of course, we'll probably relocate before long, so I guess I'll just have to rely on my good looks to get DS into school when we move.
post #32 of 35
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Oh, I totally agree, in regards to our Montessori school anyway. For whatever reason, unfortunately, it is not particularly popular down here. In fact, there isn't even a waiting list. It seems like such a small yet wonderful enterprise that it's kind of surprising that their tuition is what is it. And I think they have every right to ask for it. I guess I didn't do a good job communicating that in my original post.

As to the other private schools...LOL. They don't strike me as quite so altruistic.
The two Montessori schools near me have considerably less fancy, shiny campuses than the super expensive private schools. To be totally honest, they're kind of dingy while the regular private schools have stadium seat theaters for the drama department with complete sound and light systems (this is a prek-grade 8 school btw) and tons of landscaping and brand new computers every year and all that. Don't get me wrong, this stuff looks great and when I go on the campuses of the three pricey private elementary schools near me I'm a bit jealous of the facilities. But then I think about it, and I'm happy that the Montessori curriculum really speaks for itself, while the other schools feel the need to spend so much money on external impressions. And they're all really great schools academically... they just obviously don't think that's enough.
post #33 of 35
I would love to send my two girls, but I flat out can't afford it.

The montly cost is more than my mortgage.
post #34 of 35
My son starts school in August when I go back to school. The tuition at his school is $845 a month for full time. BUT, since I am a student I qualify for this program called CDS (Childhood Development Services)...I pay $1.14 a day!!! I hate taking government help, but this is so worth it. We only get this help until he starts Kindergarten, but the school has a scholarship program that pays 85% of tuition for K-12, plus certain colleges. WE GOT THAT SCHOLARSHIP. He is set for life! If anyone lives in Central Florida, they should really look into CDS.
post #35 of 35
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I hate taking government help, but this is so worth it.
Oh heck. I would NOT feel bad about something like this. If my state government offered a program that would help me give my child the best start possible, I'd take it! The only similar option we have here is a state-funded preschool, which is just not for us. I wish my state had a program like yours!
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