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post #1 of 14
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As mentioned before, STBX told me recently that he's moving next Sunday. I made note of it as he told me he wouldn't be seeing DD that week-end.

Yesterday when I went to drop her off at his place, my old superintendant caught up with me and asked to speak with me. Though this man isn't the most skilled handyman, he's very nice and was always helpful to me when I lived in that building. He also was quite supportive of my leaving STBX because he really dislikes him.

Anyhow, the super proceeded to tell me that there had been an altercation between him and STBX, which resulted in the police being called. From what I understand, STBX hasn't paid his rent (in how long, I don't know), and the super went to see him to ask for another rent cheque. Somehow, there was an argument, and STBX called the cops on the super. A few days later, STBX physically pushed the super who then called the cops on him. SO, things are not going well over there.

I tried to be sollicitous and told the super that he'd be happy since STBX was leaving...he had no idea what I was talking about! That's when it dawned on me that STBX plans on disappearing quietly next week without paying rent. Of course he wouldn't be moving "the regular way", with moving vans and boxes, and forwarding addresses...just as he used to when we were together, he is going to do it "the illegal way". I don't know why I was shocked...I guess I had forgotten what kind of person STBX is.

Realizing that I'd just put my food deep in my mouth, I backpeddled and told the super that I wasn't sure about what I'd heard and that it might all be a lie...He seemed satisfied and proceeded to tell me that my former DSS is looking very ill and depressed, and that he wishes the boy's mother would come and take him back to Ontario. He also suggested that STBX isn't working anymore since he's been home all week and harassing him during the daytime.

Obviously, this last portion may be hearsay and is based on the impressions of a third party, but seeing as I just had STBX's employer served with a subpoena, I'm feeling like I have a part to play in all this.

In any case, I felt very out of sorts hearing how poorly things are going in STBX and DSS' life. Also, I had forgotten that this is how STBX proceeds (not paying rent, getting evicted and skipping out a few months later, moving someplace new). Obviously, I'm feeling super guilty about my former DSS, and feeling terrible that there's nothing I can do to help him get away from such a toxic situation. What really worries me is that DD is now going to be exposed to this kind of chaos when visiting her father.

I don't really know if there's anything I can or should do...
post #2 of 14
Call your lawyer!
post #3 of 14
Call child protective services...and his (dss's) mother.
post #4 of 14
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DSS' mother doesn't want to talk to me, but if she did, she would immediately report whatever I tell her to STBX. He's got her wrapped around his little finger, under the threat of revealing to DSS the fact that when he was a baby, she walked out for 2 years. DSS doesn't remember but STBX continually uses that threat to get anything he wants from her.

As for child protective services, I was told that unless DSS is willing to call *them* to complain about his father, they can't do anything. I guess things are different in Canada...

I've just called the guidance counsellor at DSS' school and left a message. Maybe she can talk to DSS.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Halfasianmomma View Post
As for child protective services, I was told that unless DSS is willing to call *them* to complain about his father, they can't do anything. I guess things are different in Canada...
who told you that? i can't imagine this is true. why would DSS rely on a child reporting a parent before they would intervene?
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Catubodua View Post
who told you that? i can't imagine this is true. why would DSS rely on a child reporting a parent before they would intervene?
A social worker I spoke to last year when DSS had his breakdown...perhaps I got the information wrong, but from what I understood, I had no recourse a) because I'm the former step-mother and b) because they need DSS to confirm the fact that there's something fishy going on.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by PoppyMama View Post
Call child protective services...and his (dss's) mother.
I completely disagree. She hasn't even seen the child...she basically has gossip from someone who is not getting along with her ex. What would be the basis? Even if he is sickly, just because a child is not doing well (he had a breakdown last year?) doesn't mean it's the father's fault.

The first thing you should do is talk to your ex. He may lie, that's quite possible but you can at least get some kind of story from him.

Honestly? All that you know is that he's moving. Everything else in unfounded. I would want to check out/do a walkthrough of any new place my child was staying.

Being lazy on paying your bills doesn't really make someone a bad father. It kind of makes them a bad person in general (maybe irresponsible is a better word) but I don't think I'd try to restrict him seeing his daughter.

Wow, your super is all up in your business. It sounds like he has more than a professional opinion of the situation.
post #8 of 14
OP, it sounds as though your xh`s son is in a very bad situation. I don`t believe it`s true that only the child can report the problem, that makes no sense at all.

I just googled ``reporting child neglect in montreal`` and there certainly are child protection departments and ways for concerned adults to report problems and dangers, same as in every other province and state in North America.

One number I found is: 514-935-6196. This is for reporting danger and neglect to English-speaking children in Greater Montreal. I wish you would take the time to call, as no one knows what`s going on in that household better than you do. Good luck and btw you are a fabulous mama to your dd, from everything I`ve read!
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by Sarah W View Post
Being lazy on paying your bills doesn't really make someone a bad father. It kind of makes them a bad person in general (maybe irresponsible is a better word) but I don't think I'd try to restrict him seeing his daughter.
That's what I was struggling with...I mean, if *I* fell on hard times, I wouldn't want someone telling me I can't see my daughter because of it. However, because I know this man's history (criminal record in the States, history of abuse, constant pattern of non-payment of rent, followed by either eviction or midnight moves, lack of employment/embezzlement/blackmail to "survive" instead of just working an honest job), I'm really concerned about the stability he's capable of providing for his children. Thankfully, DD only sees him 3.5 hrs a week, but I do intent on seeing his new place before letting her go there unsupervised.

Petronella...thanks for the info. I'll look into it today.
post #10 of 14
Honestly, I'd let all of it go except for things that affect your DD directly. Your former step son's teachers are all mandatory reporters, so let them do their jobs. It's hard to let things go, but there is only so much you can do to protect your own child, someone elses child is even harder to protect.

I know thats not what you want to hear, but its the way things are. And, don't forget that you may have to fight this man for custody of your DD sometime in the future - if there are old CPS reports that you made against him based on nothing more than RUMORS that could look very very badly for you. I know you have sole custody right now, but if he decides to fight it that could change.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Halfasianmomma View Post
That's what I was struggling with...I mean, if *I* fell on hard times, I wouldn't want someone telling me I can't see my daughter because of it. However, because I know this man's history (criminal record in the States, history of abuse, constant pattern of non-payment of rent, followed by either eviction or midnight moves, lack of employment/embezzlement/blackmail to "survive" instead of just working an honest job), I'm really concerned about the stability he's capable of providing for his children. Thankfully, DD only sees him 3.5 hrs a week, but I do intent on seeing his new place before letting her go there unsupervised.

Petronella...thanks for the info. I'll look into it today.
OP, you are right to be very concerned. Someone with that background and patterns of behavior is NOT fit to care for a child for any substantial amount of time, either your own or your ex's son. This is not just about moving or a landlord's allegations - you have lived with this man and know how he operates. I'm sure that adults can call child protective services on a child's behalf - I know that technically the boy isn't your responsibility, but his situation sounds so difficult and hopeless, I hope you're able to call.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by thyra View Post
Honestly, I'd let all of it go except for things that affect your DD directly. Your former step son's teachers are all mandatory reporters, so let them do their jobs. It's hard to let things go, but there is only so much you can do to protect your own child, someone elses child is even harder to protect.

I know thats not what you want to hear, but its the way things are. And, don't forget that you may have to fight this man for custody of your DD sometime in the future - if there are old CPS reports that you made against him based on nothing more than RUMORS that could look very very badly for you. I know you have sole custody right now, but if he decides to fight it that could change.
No no, I'm glad to hear everyone's input on this...It's all new to me (being on the "outside" of the madness instead of being on the "inside"), and I generally have no clue how to best proceed. The whole "letting go" process has been very hard with regards to DSS, because I parented him for 6 years and love him dearly, but I've just decided to talk with the guidance counsellor when she returns from vacation, and leave it at that. The social worker I spoke to this morning told me there just wasn't enough to go on, which I completely understand, so I guess that in this case, it's "to the grace of god". I'll just have to keep an eye on STBX's situation as it affects our DD.
post #13 of 14
In your shoes I would just be elated that my child and I are no longer living in that drama. You are lucky in that your daughter will only be with him 3.5 hours and as she gets older visits can happen at the park, etc. not his home. All in all your ex cannot damage your daughter so terribly in 3.5 hours simply with his irresponsible ways especially given that you do and will have a stable job and home for her to see the responsible path....... at somepoint your ex is just giving you and door to some open communication with your daughter about different lifestyles.

With regard to your DSS I know it's tough but let his teachers, mom or even the super at the apartment take action you are not there to know and honestly it's not your business so I would not even broach the subject with your ex. What I might do is give the super the number for child protective sertvices and tell him if there are any concerns of abuse or abandonment, etc. he can call this number.......

And THANK GOODNESS YOU ARE OUT OF THERE!
post #14 of 14
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Just wanted to post a minor update on this front:

I received two calls from DSS' school yesterday and today, asking me where DSS was. He's missed school for 2 days, which isn't dramatic but still... Anyhow, I spoke to the secretary who told me that she tried calling XH's work, but when she did, the receptionist said she had "no employee by that name" (!). I explained that I really needed to discuss this with their guidance counsellor because I was concerned about DSS' well-being and also gave her XH's cell number. I left another message with the guidance counsellor but left it at that.

Ugh, detaching from all this is proving rather challenging.
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