Super confused, please help!

[Lousli]

This morning my dd woke up from a bad dream and called out to me. I called back to her several times from my room, and waited for her response (she fell back asleep) and then realized I should probably temp. I took my temp an hour before I usually do, at 5:30, and it was still fairly dark and I was half asleep but I'm fairly sure it was 97.57 I then went back to sleep.

I woke at my normal time and took my temp and got 97.96 I also got a glaringly positive OPK, the third day of positives in a row. WTH?

I have no idea which temp to use. It will definitely affect my chart since I'm expecting to ovulate pretty much today. I guess in the scheme of things one day isn't that huge a deal, but when you're trying to decide if you should POAS there is a big difference between 9 DPO and 10 DPO...

[echospiritwarrior]

I'd use the temp that you took at your usual time.

[karmab]

i probably would too. the other thing is you could temp adjust the first one, which makes it 97.77. i wouldnt worry about the opk. unless you suspect something like pcos, just use the first one as an indicator that you likely will o 12-48 hrs after, most often 36.

[Lousli]

So for purposes of conception, should I BD one last time tonight, or did I already O? My pre-ovulation temps have been around 97.4 or 97.5

[Stevi]

I always say, when you're not sure, BD! I would actually recommend that you BD until you get a second negative OPK. Not everyone Ovulates 12-48 hours after their first positive OPK, fo example, I seem to ovulate on the last positive day. I have temped in the past, which confirms that.

So, BD BD BD!!!

[Lousli]

My positive OPK this morning was the 3rd day of positive OPK's in a row. So I'm thinking that I ovulated yesterday or possibly even this morning, which is why the big temp rise today. I'm also not 100% sure yet (I need to go check again, lol) but I think my cm is turning to creamy, which would confirm ovulation. But anyway, I probably will try to get in one more bd tonight to be safe.

[karmab]

it's hard to visualize without the chart link- do you have one? one point to clarify, though, girl- cm turning creamy suggests you o'd but it doesnt confirm it. if you gear up and then dont o, and your hormones back down again, you will go to non-fertile cm, and then you might gear up again in 2 or 3 days and be back with fertile cm and o, ykwim? you have to see that sustained temp shift to be pretty sure you did in fact o. i think that was just the wording and you already know, but just wanted to be sure.

[Lousli]

Yes, you're right. That is pretty much what I meant, just that the creamy cm seems to point more to ovulation having occurred, which would seem to indicate my second temp being correct.

Here is a link to my chart with the temp I used as the 6:30 am one. You can imagine what it would look like with a temp of 97.57.

[karmab]

oh yeah, that's quite a different story between those two temps!

[Lousli]

I know, what the heck!? Well, if you see my chart from last month, you can see my pre-ov temps were in the 97.3 range and my coverline was 97.4 I ovulated and my temp went up to 97.7 the first day and then the 97.8-9 range the next couple of days.

But this month my pre-ov temps are slightly higher to begin with, 97.4-5 I'd almost say that 97.57 is a pre-ov temp for me this cycle, and obviously 97.96 would be post-ov. So it really is down to did I or did I not yesterday?

I think I did, because my cm is creamy and I'm expecting to go home and take an OPK and get a negative result. If it is positive, I don't know, my head might explode. At least I'll know what to do tonight.

[Lousli]

Well the saveontest was a total negative, the CVS was iffy but I thought negative and when I asked dh if the lines were the same or not he told me the control line was darker, so that sounds negative as well. I'm kind of thinking I might semi-cheat and mark the OPK as negative because you're supposed to take it in the afternoon, not the morning and if I only took them this afternoon, it would be neg. So confusing!

[karmab]

that's not cheating. it went negative today, mark it negative. that's legit.

[Lousli]

Ok thanks. Now I don't feel so bad about it!

[HulaJenn]

I think the first temp is more accurate as you only went back to sleep for 1 hour. Your temp likely rose in that amount of time, and the temp an hour earlier wouldn't be as far off.
Your potential O date may still be the same, but temp-wise I would use the first.
Not playing devil's advocate, but I'v read it is better to use a temp after 3-4 hours sleep and as close to same waking time as possible. And where both criteria is in question the first is more important (within reason - if you had been up at 3a.m instead I' would say use the 2nd temp) it will hopefully still paint a clear picture in a couple days.

[Lousli]

If anyone is curious, my temp was up today, so combined with the dry up of cm, I'm pretty sure I did ovulate. I just don't know if it was CD 14 or 15. Either way, our timing was pretty good, so the 2ww begins. I think for the purposes of not making myself crazy I should count myself 1 DPO.