GF, Egg free, Dairy free +

[abemom2]

Where can I find recipes for very restricted diets?

I'm in the process of testing my kids, and have some results. One of them can't have the above and soy, fruit, spices, onion, oils, (only corn oil.) No buckwheat, beef, sugar + a whole bunch more. He can have corn products. He could have spelt even though the other gluten weren't good. There is a honey that's ok. He can have only one company rice milk in plain!

I need some recipes, and also a cake of some sort for when he has b-days at school to be able to give him instead.

It seems like most of it is an intolerancy, so after 6 months or so of being strict, he'll probably be back on at least 70% of the food stuff.

It's really hard for my kids because they're young, and don't understand why they have to be different than all they're friends.

Thanks so much!!
Ana

[sbgrace]

I hope all that I'm going to say isn't going to make you stressed/be upsetting. People manage very restrictive diets so you can do this. But make sure you need to do it. That's pretty restrictive. What type of testing is this? Have you seen actual symptoms when the child eats those foods. Some kids can eat foods they are intolerant to every four days (rotation diet) in my understanding. Any testing can be incorrect/have false positives or even false negatives. You have to look at symptoms to verify.

Corn is one of the most common intolerances and a signifiicant allergen. It's also, I believe, one of the biggest nightmares to avoid. I would be extremely hesitant to take a child with multiple intolerances, including less common ones, and do a lot of corn. Maybe once every four days? I don't give my allergic child corn even though he's not allergic. I figure he gets trace all the time and the last thing we need to complicate his life further is a corn allergy or intolerance. I'm saying thingnk through the corn very carefully. If you do corn use non-gmo. I would be very hesitant.

You also are going to have to think through your protein source (and amounts needed for their ages). We did meat. I now rotate egg one rotation day as well but egg has issues in terms of blocking minerals. It is also an allergen of course. So I would think through what you're using, how often, etc. and how to get enough of whatever in the kids.

No fruits of any kind? No spices of any kind?

My child has allergies to fruits and some spices. There are connections between certain foods and so an allergy to one fruit might mean reactions to handful of others in some kids (my son is able to tolerate some fruits in shared families/this is not a given). I am trying to figure out how a child is intolerant to every fruit and spice. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I guess I'm saying are you certain the testing you received is accurate and can be trusted? Because it is unhealthy to limit a diet when you don't really need to do it. You can work hard to fill in gaps of course. But this is going to be a bland diet and you'll need to be very careful of gaps given what you listed. And, as I said, the blanket restrictions on whole groups of foods that, when you look at food families/shared elements, etc. are unrelated is confusing to me.

[kjbrown92]

If you go up to the resources, there's a link to the allergy friendly recipes thread. My blog. Jacqueline's blog: www.kitchencanadian.com. I always forget Jessica's.

DS came back okay for corn, and I started giving it to him every day, and he became intolerant to it after about a year. We rotated the milder intolerance foods that didn't show symptoms. We've been on a rotated restricted diet for 2 years (DS and DD2), if that gives you a frame of reference for getting 70% of the foods back within 6 months.

[lil_miss_understood]

with all other gluten grains coming back as reactive, i would probably assume the spelt was a false negative.
nothing more to add besides a big to everything Kathy and sbgrace said.
Jessica's blog.

[Koalamom]

I love the recipes form www.bobsredmill.com.

http://www.csaceliacs.org/recipes3.php?id=91
This site is great too. The one I use all the time is the GF banana bread recipe. I used spelt the other day and it worked great too. I use maple syrup in place of the sugar, and in place of bananas, I use whatever we want to have be it berrries, zucchini, apples, pumpkin, yummmm. I use chia gel sometimes to hold it together in place of eggs and for the added nutrients and omega 3's.

[abemom2]

It's an energy testing, and the people who recommended doing it with this person told me that in the beginning, most things are out, and then if careful most comes back in. And they said he is very accurate - as they have seen with their kids. (One did her whole family.) Basically, there are certain foods that are not good for their body, but after a few years of eating it with other foods, more things affect the body Once the body is strengthened, the small intolerances can be absorbed again, and only the few big ones remain off. Some forever, and some may be back after long term.

ETA: THE SYMPTOMS: I'll specify it better: Most of my children have very watery stools, My 2 yr. Old has red (I assume yeast diaper rash)one constipation, pink around the eyes very often for all of them. Some of these things I din't even know were allergy until I read Dr. Rapp's book, as someone here told me to. They have more symptoms too from the book.

My oldest has general behavioral, too much, also bright red ears all of a sudden. As a newborn he had to be held a lot, and at night would cry for hours. I didn't even know that it could be from allergies. Only now I know. My second is agressive, and he goes from extreme good to extreme opposite - I forgot the term from Dr. Rapp's book. Both of them won't be dry at night, even if we take them several times to make.

My 2 year old - It HURTS him to be changed. Always. He asks to be changed right away after pee also. This has been for a few weeks already.
My baby scratches himself on his head, and also rubs his feet very hard against each other. He also has a hard time sleeping. He had eczema (that's what started me on the allergy search, and I'm off dairy and eggs, so not much eczema anymore.) and needs to be held a lot.

They're all very picky eaters, underweight, skinny, short, and my 5 month old is gaining very little weight, that my pedi. recommended an elimination diet, bec. he assumes that that's the cause here.
(For example - my 5.5 year old wears shirts 4-5, and pants size 3 - with the waist tightened.)

Thanks again.

[deminc]

Hi ds2 is on failsafe elimination diet plus gf, dairy free, plus soy free. I give him meat plus rice/ rice pasta and allowed vegetables in rotation. Vary preparation methods - stirfry, bake, grill, panfried. I use potato starch a lot and canola oil. He's off fish and all seafood as well, no garlic, and I just use Himalayan salt for everything. for food to pack along, you can make roasted potato, meatballs or meat patties, roasted chicken drumlets, bring rice cakes and a safe drink along. If allowed, peeled chestnuts and steamed chickpeas are also handy snacks.

I found it very hard to use any flour mixtures as he seem to do worse on them, even if gluten free, so for us at this stage, whole food is the best and you can see triggers much more easily.

[abemom2]

How do I know if my kids are getting enough vitamins and minerals. None of the vitamins I was using tested good, and someone else told me, that her kids were also off all vitamins for a little while. But her kids are doing great now - and she's only off a few items now for each.

Thanks again.
Ana

[sbgrace]

Watery stools here were parasites. Metametrix test found them all.

Anyway, what I would do is look up information for each child's nutritional needs and make sure the diet fits what they need. This is esepcially important if they are failure to thrive. (side note: doctor should have investigated this--food diary to make sure there is enough protein/calories, testing for anemia, testing stool for malabsorption, etc.)

Look up:
1. protein intake for their age
2. average calories for their age (plan the diet to have enough calories)
3. needs for minerals (iron, zinc, calcium, magnesium especially) and vitamins (b vitamins, iodine). Given the growth issues and stools I'd supplement what they need in most of those categories. In some I'd give more than they need. Pauling Institute will have RDA levels for their ages.
My kids take: optizinc at more than double the RDA (your kids likely need zinc both for healing and growth--optzinc is good because it's well absorbed zinc monomethionine is the formal name).
iron (ferrochel/ferrous bis-glycinate) We take this at the RDA because my kids are normal in ferritin. Your children need checked to see if they are low.
calcium RDA levels, magnesium above RDA
Iodine, above RDA right at upper tolerable limit
b vitamins--we do a basic B vitamin and extra b12 (hydroxy form)
We do other minerals too but I'd concentrate on the above right now. Your kids are likely needing iron and zinc both.
Minerals need to be given apart from each other because they block absorption so give iron apart from zinc for example.

You plan a diet with enough calories and protein. You supplement the most important things as above.

Probiotics (Klaire labs makes allergen free ones) can support healing as can digestive enzymes. I would strongly consider looking at celiac, parasites, etc. to see if you've got other things possibly causing the loose stools and contributing to the intolerances.

[abemom2]

Thanks Rachelle.

Where do I find all the information for RDA?