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post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by Lillitu View Post

I will reiterate some things and relay some new things. Cats are true carnivores. They should NOT eat any grain, period. They also do not need vegetables or fruit.
Cats consuming wild prey actually do consume grains and vegetables while eating the stomach contents of their prey, which are generally herbivores. So it's likely that some amount of grain and/or vegetation is healthy for cats.

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with the idea that vets routinely use foods that do not work or mask symptoms. Having worked in the field for over 12 years, this has not been my experience. We consistently see very good results from prescription diets. I'd love to see any studies showing that feeding low-grain or raw diets improves rates of kidney disease, hypothyroidism, and cancer, though, since you've asserted that that is the case. Maybe I just haven't been made aware of the relevant science.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by womenswisdom View Post
I'd love to see any studies showing that feeding low-grain or raw diets improves rates of kidney disease, hypothyroidism, and cancer, though, since you've asserted that that is the case. Maybe I just haven't been made aware of the relevant science.
Last I looked, I haven't seen any studies showing that organic fruits and veggies are better for you, but common sense tells me that ingesting traces of pesticides is probably not a good thing.

Common sense also tells me that a biologically appropriate diet is best for animals.
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by womenswisdom View Post
Cats consuming wild prey actually do consume grains and vegetables while eating the stomach contents of their prey, which are generally herbivores. So it's likely that some amount of grain and/or vegetation is healthy for cats.

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Do they? Many of my raw feeding friends who feed their cats whole prey say the cats routinely leave the stomach and dont eat it. Dogs tend to eat it, but often shake it out first....but dogs are a bit more scavengery than cats.

Nope, no studies to "prove" it but many many many anecdotal stories and many vets who support it too. Then again there are no studies proving vaccines harmful, or GMOs, or a host of other things. One you see what a raw diet doe for you pet, it doenst matter if there are studies to prove it.
post #24 of 27
If for some reason raw doesn't work out for you, Eagle Pack offers advice on diets for crystals. You can find it here- http://eaglepack.com/EP_PetHealth.html#crystals

The dry formula they recommend does contain corn, but it is much better ingredient wise than prescription diets. i also *think* they published this before they started the Holistic Selects line for cats, so there may be a corn-free formula that would work (I'm thinking the fish?) Their nutritionist is great and good about getting back to people who write to him so you could try emailing him and see if there is a Holistic Selects kibble he would recommend to go with the canned. You would want to direct your inquiry to John Marsman, who is the nutritionist there.
post #25 of 27
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Thanks for the link, Oubliette8. I am really appreciating all of this info and links, friends. It is overwhelming reading all of the different views on bladder crystals but at least I am getting informed. Today I fed our kitty some plain boiled chicken and he seemed to be into it. I think he's more open-minded and willing to try new things after nearly a week of eating watered-down Science Diet while he waits for me to figure out my next step.
post #26 of 27
My cat had crystals when he was 2.5 yrs old... I put him on canned food only natural balance ultra formula and he is now 7 without a recurrence. He hates canned food but I am strict and make him eat it I add fancy feast to the mix for the moisture. Apparently it is mainly the liquid that works... Non of the dry foods are good enough... Find a canned food that ur cat likes and go with it! It has worked for years for my finicky Siamese!
post #27 of 27

I had a female cat who went through a period of UTI infections.  This was 20 years ago.  A vet told me to go wet only so we did and never saw another UTI again.  She lived to be 18.  Because of her I started my next two cats off with wet only.  The female would never eat the wet food.  Never.  She might lick the gravy but otherwise refused anything but dry.  I tried raw and no luck, even our own freshly processed chickens she refused.  She was a rescue and was very odd.  Sadly she died last year.  Now I have one male cat who will sort of eat wet food.  Up until last year always would eat wet food but also ate the dry food.  I always kept dry food around and fed wet in the morning and evening.  When the female died I planned to loose the dry completely.  Well it turned into a 6 month search for something, anything the male cat would eat more then two cans of.  He dropped a lot of weight.  Over the summer we have been packing to move and he developed a UTI, due to stress according to my vet.  Poor guy was skin and bones and continued to refuse wet food after a can or two of the same kind.  I worked my way up to the $2 a can cat food.  The local (quality) pet store employees were trying to help me.  He still would eat only a little bit and scream and yell at me for food.  He never gained any weight.  We actually began to suspect a thyroid issue but no, tests came back within normal range.  The UTI came back for a second round.  My vet handed me a bag of the prescription purina food to help prevent UTI's.  Well he loved it.  He eats it, he is finally putting on some weight, the UTI's are gone, he no longer screams at me for food.  I really want him off the purina.  But on the other hand I am trying to sell a house and having the 14 yr old cat pee on the legos in front of the real estate agent does not help.  So for now we stick with the status quo and I plan to keep reading other recommendations.  Once we move we can explore a few other options for him.

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