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post #101 of 654
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Originally Posted by RaraAvis View Post
Maybe I'm like lyterae -- insufficient nightwear
LOL - that is a very refined way of saying it
post #102 of 654
Thanks for the answers regarding the low battery on my thermometer and whether a basal is necessary. I'm hoping I'll be able to find replacement batteries for my old thermometer, the new one gives temps in.1 increments, but it SUCKS! It doesn't beep while it's measuring so I don't know if it's working (it took a few tries this morning) and it doesn't have a backlight, so I can't see the reading! It gave a reading while it still felt cold in my mouth, so I don't trust it. We're going away for the weekend and I figure my chart is pretty much busted for this month anyway. I'll keep it up for habit's sake and hopefully have this sorted out for my next cycle.
post #103 of 654
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
echo ~ I agree with everyone else. No confirmed O yet. FF is just wrong. Which O detector do you have it set to? Possibly, O was yesterday if your temps stay above 97.6. Ovusoft kind of has it with the lines that separate your fertile and infertile period. If you look, you can see that the horizontal line is set on what might be your CL. However, since it says you are now in your infertile phase, it may not look for O anymore. You might want to change your settings so that it won't use day counting for anything.

OT: I just got my first handspun yarn the other day. Mosaic Moon Dragon's Lair spun by Yarnoodles. It's so gorgeous! I wish I knew how to do that.
It looks like it was set to FAM and even when I changed it to advanced my CL didn't change. I did change my temp time this month and just now I set that new time into Ovusoft and it took away that I am now infertile, but I can't figure out how to change the setting where it counts fertile phase and peak day. Until this month I've never had a CL not be 97.4 so this is new.

I spin yarn. I'm working on some lace weight BFL right now to make a lace shawl. I already made this shawl out of all handspun yarn and swore that was going to be the ONE piece I kept for myself, but I ended up giving it to my mother for mother's day. I am really really proud that I finished up a sweater TODAY for DD that I pretty much had finished over a year ago. I also mailed off a handspun silk lace scarf today that all I had to do was cast off (it was should have been sent this past x-mas) I still have three medium sized bins of UFOs and I am determined to get them completed!
post #104 of 654
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I still have three medium sized bins of UFOs and I am determined to get them completed!
Now I don't feel so bad for not really having any UFOs right now. I have some things that need to be frogged and either restarted or made into something else. Do those count as UFOs? The first couple of times I made sweaters the pieces sat forever before I sewed them together. I hate sewing. I still have one sweater that's been done for 2 years except for buttons. I even have the buttons but haven't sewn them on. My boys won't wear it, anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. Although, if I finished it, I could donate it.

I think the place to change things like that on Ovusoft is to go to Edit, Preferences, and the Cervical Fluid tab. Under cervical fluid/vaginal sensation options you can play around with using Dry Day rule to determine start of fertile phase and override dry day rule when day counting says probably not fertile. You can also choose whether it uses your average cycle length or longest cycle length.

If you want to set your own O day, go to Edit and Override Calculations. You can set your own O day or set it not to calculate O before a certain day or set it to not calculate O at all.
post #105 of 654
Um...UFOs? I've obviously missed something.

I went shopping tonight and got my new thermometer. It's from Target and seems to be essentially the same as my old one, just looks a little different. I decided I didn't want the constant beeping of the BD one, since I do like to stay in bed snuggled next to my DH and DS while I take my temp sometimes and that would be disruptive. The backlight would have been nice though. My previous one served me well so I decided to stick with the prototype.

CD 5. AF is pretty much gone.
post #106 of 654
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
Now I don't feel so bad for not really having any UFOs right now. I have some things that need to be frogged and either restarted or made into something else. Do those count as UFOs? The first couple of times I made sweaters the pieces sat forever before I sewed them together. I hate sewing. I still have one sweater that's been done for 2 years except for buttons. I even have the buttons but haven't sewn them on. My boys won't wear it, anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. Although, if I finished it, I could donate it.
Ugh me too. I want to get into diaper making (for us later, not profit), but i promised DH I wouldn't start until my LARGE rubbermaid container of yarn was all used up. Now I've been crocheting like mad, but I've still got half a container... and I'm running out of things to make-- there's only so many blankets and hats and sweaters a not-yet-born baby can take! And since I'm losing inspiration I have I believe 3 sweaters that I'm about 10 rows into, and then stopped, as well as a kind size blanket for our bed, and because it's so wide, I only got about three rows in... and then lost interest. Baby things are so much more fulfilling because they go quick.

UFO-- unfinished object

Back to our regularly schedule programming... It's June and I am offically started a new cycle as of this morning, and I am trying not to make myself absolutely giddy with 'this could be the month"-ness. Realistically, I know that next month is more likely... but DH has been a bit of a pushover lately with avoiding, and so I know this month would be ok. But I hate being so... 'planning focused' about it. I might try to chart this month on paper, ie writing down the numbers, and not making a graph, so that I'm not instantly aware of where in my cycle I am. It's hard once you've started charting to shut off that part of your brain though. I'm sure there are women out there who do it without obsessing, but I mean at any given day, i can tell you all my averages (LP, o date, etc) as well as where i am in my cycle, and how fertile I am, etc etc etc. It sure makes you feel a lot less spontaneous when you initiate BD, but are thinking in the back of your mind "hey I'm fertile" "or hey, im not fertile today".
post #107 of 654
On a more charting based note... I've been looking back over my last few charts (what was it I said about obsessing?) and specifically at LP length. I know that "they" say that it's normal for it to vary 1-2 days in one direction, but that's it. But what if it varies more than that? Mine doesn't vary a lot, but in the past 6 months my LP has been 10, 13, 11, 14, 13, and 11. I'm pretty much 100% about all of those dates other than the 14 day one. Technically I can confirm it for the 14 day, but my first two post o temps were on the CL, and then SHOT up from there, so it *could* be a 12 day LP instead I suppose. FWIW, cf agrees with the 14 day.

So, it's not like I'm going from 10-16 days, and I'm not worried about it, but it seems like from what people say, it "should" be more like 11, 12, 11, 11, 12, 11, etc etc, somewhat more constant. I guess what I'm wondering, is do you ladies find that yours are consistent from cycle to cycle within 1 day, or two days, I suppose? Or is it one of those cases where textbook says they should only vary by two days, but that is only really true for 50% of women type thing. I'm curious.
post #108 of 654
My LP is always a constant 11-13 days. When I was breastfeeding I had some shorter ones, but that's the only time. And I had never heard of people's LPs varying that much, except breastfeeding and just getting cycles back PP, until the recent posts.

Kinda weird.
post #109 of 654
To all you ladies who knit, you should be hanging out on the Ravelry forums if you're not already; tremendous fun is had there! Also, if you're sick of crocheting afghans for yourself, check in with your church if that's your thing, or maybe your local homeless shelter or women-helping-battered-women shelter. They can always use blankets, and it's really wonderful for them to be able to say to someone in a terrible situation, "Here is tangible proof that someone cares what happens to you."

Here is my final chart for last month (scroll down). I moved the O day back one more day so that the 10 day LP would fit with my usual 10-12 day. I looked back, and a 23 day cycle is shorter than anything I've ever had before. I wish I had a print out somewhere so I could figure out what has made my cycles so short recently! My sister and I have been spending a lot of time together, and we started on exactly the same day, and I've heard annecdotally that those things can be connected, though I don't know if there's any research to bear it out. Oh well.

We're going away for a wedding this weekend with the 2.5 year old...should be "fun" lol.
post #110 of 654
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Originally Posted by jeninejessica View Post
i promised DH I wouldn't start until my LARGE rubbermaid container of yarn was all used up.
Are you on Ravelry? If so, you might be able to sell/trade/give away some or all of the yarn you don't think you will end up using.

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Originally Posted by jeninejessica View Post
I am trying not to make myself absolutely giddy with 'this could be the month"-ness.
I am feeling the same way this month. It would be b/c of an oops though, not intentionally TTC. I'm kinda/sorta in a TWW, assuming I actually O'd when I think I did (I don't temp, so I can't technically confirm it) - there's a teeny tiny possibility (probably mostly wishful thinking) that our most recent BD will catch.

Isn't it weird how when you were younger and didn't want to get pregnant that you always heard of girls getting BFP from a missed WD, bad counting, etc. but now when you are hoping for an oops they almost never happen?
post #111 of 654
I'm on Ravelry! alyb0325 if you want to friend me. I'm on the Mosaic Moon, 3IG and Nurturing Threads yarn groups, too. I'm not very active on the forums but I look constantly. I've been trying to make tops for myself lately since I don't have any babes in wool pants and, like you said, you only have so many hats, scarves and mittens, especially here when it's not that cold. I haven't had much luck making things for myself, though. I can't seem to get the size right. I joined the Body Doubles group hoping to get some insight but everyone else seems to be just as confused as me about what their body type is and what looks good on them.

One more thing about knitting and I'll move on. I have been on a major yarn buying spree lately. I discovered Yarn Lovers Unite coops and they are killing me! I think I have orders out there from at least 3 coops right now and I'm anxiously awaiting the 3IG one that starts in a couple of weeks! What will my dh do when he comes home and finds we have to sell the house because I was buying yarn? And then we'll have to move into a tiny apartment and I won't have room for my yarn.

WRT lp variations, until just a few months ago, mine was almost always 12 days long. every once in a great while a 13-14 day one would be thrown in but the vast majority were 12 days. The only time they've been shorter was early PP and early breastfeeding. The only time they've been longer was when I was pg or the one time I had a functional cyst. TCOYF says that, most of the time if your lp varies too much, your O days are off.

If you don't think it's that and you are going to ttc or at least stop tta in the hopes of getting pg, you might want to have your hormones checked, especially get a 7dpo (not cd21) progesterone check. If you have low progesterone or a weak O (don't ask me exactly what that is), Vitex, clomid or femara can help with that. There might be other things like the maca I'm taking now. Obviously, progesterone supplements from 4dpo on could help.

kc ~ Those are short cycles. How old are you?
post #112 of 654
BFS: Does your new Target therm just keep one saved temp or does it keep five saved temps like the old one? Is it the UP and UP brand?

JJ: I'm the same way. I can tell you what CD I'm on, when I should O, whether or not I'm fertile and if applicable, how many DPO I am.

AFM: Fertility came early this cycle. I don't think DH was very happy about that but oh well. My temps are super stable though which is very cool.

My chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1f0436
post #113 of 654
Hmm. FF FAM puts O CD 39 w/97.2 for the CL. Advanced puts it where I would, CD 41 w/97.4 CL. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11cdf I used Advanced last cycle, too. FAM put O on CD 20. But those temps were ugly either way.
post #114 of 654
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Morning everyone, well I am now officially regretting my nights of "insufficient nightwear", my temps are possibly on the rise, did I ovulate?

My cervix has felt like it was closing up the past two days and I had a headache yesterday and the day before (usually happens around O)...
post #115 of 654
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Originally Posted by lyterae View Post
Morning everyone, well I am now officially regretting my nights of "insufficient nightwear", my temps are possibly on the rise, did I ovulate?

My cervix has felt like it was closing up the past two days and I had a headache yesterday and the day before (usually happens around O)...
Well, with EWCF present on CD39, I would say that is your O day if temps keep climbing.
post #116 of 654
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Hmm. FF FAM puts O CD 39 w/97.2 for the CL. Advanced puts it where I would, CD 41 w/97.4 CL. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11cdf I used Advanced last cycle, too. FAM put O on CD 20. But those temps were ugly either way.
Ha! I agree w/the Advanced interpretation but know that using the FAM interpretation is best! Either way, I would say that O was CD 41.
post #117 of 654
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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post
Hmm. FF FAM puts O CD 39 w/97.2 for the CL. Advanced puts it where I would, CD 41 w/97.4 CL. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11cdf I used Advanced last cycle, too. FAM put O on CD 20. But those temps were ugly either way.
I agree with CD41.
post #118 of 654
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Originally Posted by MovingMomma View Post
Hmm. FF FAM puts O CD 39 w/97.2 for the CL. Advanced puts it where I would, CD 41 w/97.4 CL. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11cdf I used Advanced last cycle, too. FAM put O on CD 20. But those temps were ugly either way.
I think definitely cd41, too. I keep mine set to FAM but have had to change it to Advanced a few times. I can't figure out exactly what the s/w relies on to confirm O. Sometimes it's just so wacky. Like with your chart, I would expect Advanced to give you O on cd39 because it seems to use more of an average for the CL and rely on secondary signs like a pre-O temp dip. FAM, otoh, usually takes CF into account more and set the CL higher. However, this time it seems to be the opposite. No sense!

lyetrae ~ I think it's possible.
post #119 of 654
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I would expect Advanced to give you O on cd39 because it seems to use more of an average for the CL and rely on secondary signs like a pre-O temp dip. FAM, otoh, usually takes CF into account more and set the CL higher. However, this time it seems to be the opposite. No sense!
Yes. So weird!
post #120 of 654
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BFS: Does your new Target therm just keep one saved temp or does it keep five saved temps like the old one? Is it the UP and UP brand?
I think it only saves one...sad. Yeah I think that's the brand. I had trouble this morning, it didn't save my temp. I hope I don't have to take it back.

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Originally Posted by lyterae View Post
Morning everyone, well I am now officially regretting my nights of "insufficient nightwear", my temps are possibly on the rise, did I ovulate?

My cervix has felt like it was closing up the past two days and I had a headache yesterday and the day before (usually happens around O)...
I think CD 39 looks very possible.
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