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VBA3C - anyone done it or tried?

post #1 of 12
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I had my first c/s after the traditional "cascade of interventions" in 2005, when I was 21. I had not done much research, but very much wanted a natural birth. Was pushed into an epi at 14 hours and only 3cm dilated after induction. Was put to sleep for the surgery and didn't meet my daughter for 12 hours following. Worst. Experience. Ever.

My second c/s in 2007, I was determined to have a VBAC. My DO pretended to be onboard until about 35 weeks. He had a conference across the country coming up and was pushing me to just schedule a c/s. Told me the baby was too big (she ended up being 7 pounds, 6 oz), told me she was in distress and made me have NSTs for 5 weeks. Finally I gave in had a routine, scheduled c/s. Went better than the first, but was still... not what I wanted. Something was missing.

My third c/s was actually necessary in 2009 after I fell at 39 weeks and could not walk AT ALL after injuring my hip very badly. We were planning a homebirth.

We want a fourth child, our final child. I am not pregnant at the moment and don't plan to get pregnant for at least another 6 months. There is an organization where I live called CHOICE (Center for Humane Options In Childbirth Experiences) that facilitates homebirths, VBACs, etc. They have a variety of doulas, monitrices, and midwives and are a really amazing organization. My last baby was posterior due to the placenta adhering to the incision scars from the previous two c/s. I know this risk increases with each c/s. I can NOT have another c/s. I desperately NEED the experience of giving birth to my child! It is NOT ENOUGH for me to be told "You have a healthy baby and a healthy mom. You should be happy!". I am NOT happy with it. I agonize over my birth experiences frequently. I want a 100% natural birth at my home. Has anyone on here accomplished this (or even tried?).

My DH is amazingly supportive and we are reading together the Bradley Method book and he is completely onboard for a homebirth. But I wonder about things like letting the incision heal so well that I don't need to worry about rupture, placenta problems like last time, etc. Anyone who has had a VBA3C or attempted one, please let me know your experience with it! Thanks in advance!!!
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post #3 of 12
I haven't done it yet. I WILL be having a HBA3C in August. Hope you find the information and encouragement you need! I've found lots of inspiration searching the boards for VBAMC stories.
post #4 of 12
I don't like to talk about it, because my VBA3C attempt ended very badly.

However, many women have had successful VBA3Cs/HBA3Cs. Are you on the ICAN forums or email list? Lots of women share their stories there.

FWIW, I remember reading the numbers from the Landon study (can't remember what year...2004 maybe?), and the risk doesn't go up anywhere near as much as is generally believed. Most medpros also neglect to mention that the risks to mom go up with each subsequent c-section, as well.

Good luck. Even with my own bad experience, I strongly support VBAmC, in general. There are always cases where c-section is advisable, but I don't think having had multiple sections already is an indicator for section, in and of itself.
post #5 of 12
Yes I have, I had a HBA3C. I had my daughter Jan 09 at home after 3 c-sections! It went off without any problems, I didn't even think about having a problem, it was wonderful! I would have to say though unless you have a great supportive Dr, your chances in a hospital are low. Any other ?s just ask!!
post #6 of 12
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Thank you guys so much!

Right, I know the risk doesn't go up as much as we're led to believe, and that the risk of placenta complications does go up much more than we're told with each c-section!

I am an ICAN member, yes. I looked hard but couldn't find anything about specifics for a VBA3C. I found a lot of stuff for VBA2C, but I'm past that point now. I emailed the CHOICE organization here and asked what their criteria would be for me. I'm so scared they're going to say they can't help the homebirth because of how many c/s I've had. I don't know WHAT I will do if that happens, because it was sooo hard just to find anyone willing to help last time, with only 2 previous c/s under my belt. DH is really comfortable with a homebirth as long as there is a midwife attending. I, myself, wouldn't be opposed to trying unassisted homebirth (maybe with a doula or monitrice), but DH is my worrier, and I'm afraid of how he would handle that situation, even if he tried his absolute hardest to be what I needed him to be. (His only birth experience so far has been me falling and getting taken to the hospital in an ambulance, drugged for 7 hours, x-rayed, then sectioned and drugged again. So ... not exactly a natural experience!)

StormBride, I'm sorry your VBA3C went so badly. Honestly though, it's input like yours that helps me keep it very realistic. I would really like to know, if you feel up to it in private message, what went wrong so that I can maybe try to do things differently. If not, no worries and thanks for you input regardless. But I am really open to hearing your story if you don't mind talking about it, even though it's hard.

Amandasemele, I definitely have questions for you!!! What were your first 3 c/s like? Did you have any posterior babies? I'm really worried because of the Bradley outline of how much harder the pushing stage can be for posterior babies. I went through labor before - all the way to 9cm, so I'm totally comfortable with that. But the pushing stage is all very foreign to me.

Thanks again ladies! Off to check the links posted!
post #7 of 12
Here's a link that you might find helpful. A midwife friend of mine just sent it to me. It's a study specifically about VBA3C or more.

http://www.bjog.org/details/journalA...eans_asse.html
post #8 of 12
PM on the way.

Oh - and have you checked out http://www.plus-size-pregnancy.org/

The site is specifically focused on women of size, but the author is also a VBAC activist, and she has some stats on VBAmC. Her site is amazingly informative.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Babycatcher, YES! I did see that and used it in an argument in favor of VBA3C.

I'm not "of size", but I'll definitely check that out, Storm! Thanks!
post #10 of 12

Can you tell me where you got your strength from?? No matter how much research i do on VBA3C i still have days where i freak and in my head im going 'i dont think i have the strength to fight!!'

I think its because i dont have support. My husband is here 100%, but no med prof. I have a midwife who is willing to support me but shes very new and no one will will be her back up midwife (which leaves her in breech of some section in the 'book of rules' My midwife treats me like a special case and constantly reminds me what im doing is risky!! I just want to be treated as a first time birther!! Can you help?

post #11 of 12

I hba3c'd in 2005 with notta one issue. i am 32 weeks pg again, but this time is a bit different. i am remarried and my husband is scared ALOT of homebirth or vbac in general. he never has had children before, knows not much about birth or even what a cervix is lol. he is for a vbac, but in a hospital. hes scared of losing me and our daughter....which is understandable. even though i have successfully had a hba3c, no one is going to let me have a hospital birth around here. their policies now are up to 2 c/s and then a TOL. i feel confident that my body can do this. i just dont want him to be a nervous wreck because we are home. but yes, a vba3c is entirely possible and it was wonderful. i hope you can experience the same because it is wonderful love.gif

post #12 of 12

I had a VBA3C, I personally know someone who also had a VBA3C with an inverted T incision and a momma who's having her 2VBA4C.  My story is at www.cherryblossomdoula.blogspot.com.  My friend's is here http://triumphantbirth.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-vba3c-after-inverted-t-birth-story.html 

Let me know if I can help in any way!!

 ~Abbey R

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