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Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans.

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sigh. This is a vent.

I was "let go" from my job as of June 1, under suspicious-but-ultimately-unprovable circumstances. (The problem with working for lawyers is they know exactly what they can and can't get away with.) I was/am the primary breadwinner, though we do have assets that can see us through a pretty long bout of unemployment (so the financial aspects do not weigh as heavily on me as they might). As my termination was due to "economic factors" and not performance, I will be eligible for unemployment compensation--and, scarily enough, food stamps, WIC, and all that if I want them (because there's no asset test in Wisconsin, only income).

Compounding this: I am 33 weeks pregnant. I am a lawyer. Many, many legal employers still see reproductive-age women (and new mothers in particular) as a liability. I am sending out resumes, but am not particularly expecting to have a job lined up before I can wear non-maternity clothes to an interview.

I guess I'm just feeling angry and bitter, now that I'm off work and have nothing but time on my hands. "But you'll be able to rest and get ready for the baby! I'm jealous!" I hear from just about everyone. I know they're well meaning but it's not helpful. I do much better when I have externally imposed structure, a place to go that's not the local coffee shop with the free Wifi. Yes, I'm well-rested but it's not helping my mental health.

We planned this baby (though he was conceived much faster than we expected) based on my former job--the hours, salary, working conditions (quite decent pay, though nearly no benefits; 40-50 hours/week; night work was predictable; minimal-to-no weekend work). Now I have to go back out into a crappy market, competing with all the new grads (I have one year of experience, which will help but not massively), and hope I end up with something that pays enough (or has good benefits and/or no commute to compensate), that doesn't expect 2000+ billable hours a year (or at least, doesn't require all those hours be done in the office or in court), that I don't hate.

I don't know. I feel cheated. Instead of enjoying my last few weeks of work (a great distraction from the discomforts of pregnancy) and then enjoying my time with my son while knowing exactly when I'll need to be ready to return to work and what that work will entail, I'll be job-searching. Then, hopefully, starting a new job, while navigating things like pumping and sleeping and all that.

I also know I need to snap out of this, for my own health and that of the baby, but it's not easy. My usual coping devices (brood for a day or two, snap into lawyer mode and go all out, completely clean and reorganize my whole house in a day as a distraction) are not as available to me as they usually are (hormones, physical limitations).

Thanks for "listening."
post #2 of 17
I am sorry you are going through this. I don't have much to say, but I can symphasize. I think that I would feel exactly as you do if I were in your situation.
post #3 of 17
I'm sorry you're out of a job!
post #4 of 17
had to stop by and offer a Is your legal field one you could make or want to make a transition into corporate life instead of working for a law firm?

I hope you can stay busy especially mentally and take each day as they come. I'm like you and I would be going in my terms "bat-sh^!" crazy already given the plans for post-baby went out the window.

post #5 of 17
I just sent you a PM.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by _ktg_ View Post
had to stop by and offer a Is your legal field one you could make or want to make a transition into corporate life instead of working for a law firm?

I hope you can stay busy especially mentally and take each day as they come. I'm like you and I would be going in my terms "bat-sh^!" crazy already given the plans for post-baby went out the window.

Thanks! I would like to keep practicing law, but the setting is less important--I'm open to government, in-house, or firm. (Heck, depending on the position, government or in-house would be ideal--no billable hour requirements!) I've got a year of experience (50% municipal work, 50% general practice, with a small firm), so while most in-house positions want more experience (5-10 years, including 2-3 in a "major firm"), I've got exposure to a variety of areas of law.

RollerCoasterMama, got it, thanks!
post #7 of 17
Is there any chance of getting some kind of side consulting work or short term projects for the next couple months? I assume you've already thrown out feelers to your professional contacts?
This would also be a good time to do a little pro bono work, which could open other doors.
I know how stressful it is to be dealing with logistical things like this in the third trimester. When I was about 30 weeks I was dealing with closing on a house. Talk about a major headache.
post #8 of 17
good luck with a job hunt. Hopefully you'll find a solution soon.
post #9 of 17
This will be no help at all--but here it. You sound like a "planner"--so am I. I'm a PhD in a TERRIBLE job right now...and what I wouldn't give to change jobs. Compound marriage problems...and well, life sucks.
But enough about me.
But I've been doing the job search thing for a while now and here are a couple of things that I would just say to you (because I'm in job search mode).

First--hold off looking until after baby is born. No reason to look now. They won't hire you. Even if it is illegal. They'll make up some excuse, you said so yourself.
There are two reasons to hold off: putting in applications now and looking now and getting turned down now will make you stale. They will look at your resume and wonder why you've been sitting in their file for x number of months.

Second, you won't have the energy to make a good impression even if you ARE hired right now--you said so yourself, hormones, new baby, etc.

So wait. When baby comes, and you feel rested, then start the search.
You will have your energy back. You won't scare people off by being so pregnant (I mean, due in July is just around the corner).

And then, if you are the only one working--why can't you start a job search that is national?
That's my biggest problem is that even with my doctorate my husband makes more than me--so I have to stay in the area. And if we divorce, I still need to stay because of the kids.
So if you have nothing to anchor you, consider a more extensive job search once baby is born.

You said you have money in reserve, so this is good. I'm not on food stamps, but I've seen them and now they look like a credit card--no one will ever know the difference. And you would be doing the same that 8 million other people are doing--so no shame there.

Congrats on the baby. Good luck!
post #10 of 17
Oh Proto! I hadn't heard this, I'm so sorry! I second PPs advice about waiting. And the one about pro bono work, maybe that could keep you at least a little busy until the baby comes?
post #11 of 17
I am a planner too and it sucks not knowing "what next". There is some good advice on this thread.
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks, everyone.

I do need to send out a very token two resumes a week to get unemployment (which I am doing), but it's all electronic so it doesn't take a lot of effort. If I do get an interview, I'll disclose things up-front and just deal with it. Many employers (public and private) around here sit on resumes for weeks, anyway--I applied for a job with the county and will be surprised if I even get the follow-up information before August. (My husband applied for a city job in February, took the test in May, and has been told interviews might be happening "sometime" this year.)

As for relocating, we're tied to our area as well for child custody reasons (my law license is Wisconsin only, but more importantly, my husband needs to stay here if he wants to stay in his daughter's life--plus we're just rooted here).
post #13 of 17
Just wanted to give you a hug! You'll make it. s.
post #14 of 17
Just a note that if you're interested in working for the federal government, not all agencies post their attorney jobs on usajobs.gov. DOJ, for instance, keeps a separate site for attorney vacancies: http://www.justice.gov/oarm/attvacancies.html

I haven't seen anything advertised in Wisconsin in the past couple weeks, but if you keep an eye out sometimes you can find interesting stuff. (Though I was pretty disgusted to see DOJ advertising Special Assistant US Attorney positions for no pay. Ugh. Thanks, DOJ; bad enough to be looking for a job in this market, now you have to piss on me, too!)

I've heard that the FBI has a separate website, too, but I have so far been unable to locate it. :/

Keep OSCAR in mind for federal clerkships, too (https://oscar.uscourts.gov/). Judges will hire people with several years' experience out in the world, and if you're not a 3L then you can send in applications at any time; you don't have to stick with the hiring plan.

Good luck.
post #15 of 17
Proto I will throw in a couple of cents here about the cabin fever and thriving with structure... have you considered volunteering or pursuing some other interest/hobby? Someone mentioned pro bono work... that could be something to put on your resume -- or do something else for either personal development or professional development. How about some more writing for a magazine or local paper? Or some such? Just throwing a few ideas out there.

It might help to just have SOME kind of mental stimulation, adult contact and commitment/structure to your week (even if it's only 1 or 2 days). (I can really relate to needing to feel like there's something you're working on.)
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Surfacing View Post
Proto I will throw in a couple of cents here about the cabin fever and thriving with structure... have you considered volunteering or pursuing some other interest/hobby? Someone mentioned pro bono work... that could be something to put on your resume -- or do something else for either personal development or professional development. How about some more writing for a magazine or local paper? Or some such? Just throwing a few ideas out there.

It might help to just have SOME kind of mental stimulation, adult contact and commitment/structure to your week (even if it's only 1 or 2 days). (I can really relate to needing to feel like there's something you're working on.)
Thanks.

I contacted the legal aid organization I interned at while in law school, and they have two types of opportunities--one is taking a (usually divorce, sometimes restraining orders) case and managing it (which I can't do because they understandably want people to be able to work straight through and I'll be having a baby), and one is ad-hoc (which may be legal work, may be filing or intake or whatever). I might schedule something.

I'm also looking at free/cheap continuing legal education.

Part of my inertia is the baby, of course--I don't want to get too deeply invested in something that will get derailed/interrupted in a month. I've thought about writing something for the bar journal. We'll see.
post #17 of 17
ProtoLawyer, I know you're venting but I couldn't read and not reply.

I'm a lawyer and military spouse with $180k+ in student loans, so you can imagine the logistical nightmare I face in my career--with moves every 2-4 years--always a challenge. Just so you know where I'm coming from.

I finished law school in '06, and so far I've been a prosecutor in Florida and an ALJ in Texas (unemployment law, of all things!). IME, government is the way to go for moms, if you don't have to be the breadwinner. No billable hours, no expectation of overtime unless you're preparing for trial, possiblity of being non-exempt and actually being paid for the OT you work, state retirement funds/benes.... Just some thoughts.

As for stuff to keep you busy--you mentioned writing for a law journal, but you might also think about volunteering to be a mentor to a journal or offering to help edit.

Keep in mind, 33 weeks is a tough time. If you're like me (most?), you're far enough along that you're uncomfortable but it still seems like its going to be so long before you meet your baby.

ETA: (I somehow posted before I was finished writing.) I hope you can find some peace with this. Lots of for you.
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