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16 months, ready to ditch diapers--what next?

post #1 of 9
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I've been doing EC with my daughter part-time since birth, and we've always used diapers as a back-up. Now she's 16 months old and I think we're ready to be out of diapers during the day (she sleeps independently and we've never done EC at night), but I'm not sure how to proceed.

DD is EXTRAORDINARILY verbal, and has no problem understanding and communicating about elimination. She does almost all her poops in the potty, with the exception of an occasional waking-up-in-her-crib poop. (I've tried to tell her to call me when she wakes up, but sometimes she'll still quietly go in her diaper before I realize she's awake.) If I'm vigilant, we can get all her pee-pees, too, especially at home. She's sometimes reluctant to go in strange bathrooms, mostly because she's too little to sit on the toilet by herself and she HATES being held--I just ordered a portable potty for use on the go.

The thing is, though she can sign and say "potty," "pee-pee" and "poo-poo," she generally doesn't tell me before she goes. We get poop using timing--she's like clockwork--and she will usually (but not always) tell me if she has to do an unscheduled poop. She'll happily pee in her diapers (we use pre-folds) and usually not tell me at all, though sometimes she will say "potty" right after she's gone. If I ask, she will almost always say "Yes" if she has to go and "No" if she doesn't. But I have to ask a lot!

Anyone have any "tricks" to encourage her to tell mommy when she has to go? I'd love to do some kind of "naked boot camp," where we spend a day or a weekend working on recognizing when she has to go, telling me, and getting to the potty--just not sure how to go about it, especially since I'd like to avoid bribes. I believe, but am not sure, that she'll get a kick out of learning to get ALL her daytime pees and poops in the potty. If not, I'm perfectly willing to wait a while longer. (Though I admit I'd love to be done with diapers for my own reasons!)

I think what's really confusing me is that I know she's NOT ready to be 100% independent--for example, she's not capable of taking off her own pants or of climbing up onto the big potty (which is her preferred location) by herself. Conventional potty training books say this means she's not ready, period. But I know she "gets" it perfectly well. Is it possible to do this halfway--i.e., "nudge" her in the direction of feeling motivated to stay dry, without needing her to be 100% independent?

And on a practical note, where can I get some "little girl" training pants/undies for practice? My daughter weighs about 25 pounds.

Thanks!
post #2 of 9
How to encourage her to let you know it's time for potty? Have you tried telling her when it's time for you to go? That's the great thing about preffering the big potty, we're all going in there everyday. She is to little for the seat reducers, that fit over the seat?
post #3 of 9
I don't know how to do that! For us, there has definitely been a stage of graduation where she would use the potty consistently, but only with my help. My dd is gradually moving to the stage of telling me ahead of time.
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Originally Posted by tri31 View Post
She is to little for the seat reducers, that fit over the seat?
We use a Baby Bjorn potty topper at home, but I don't take it out with me because it's too bulky to fit in my bag. Just ordered a folding Potette, hoping it's more portable and will serve the need whether we're near a big-person potty or not.

We had several hours of naked time this afternoon with no misses--even ate a naked dinner and then immediately peed a ton in the potty! She generally will "hold" it until she gets a chance to use the potty--for a reasonable time, of course. If we're out in the stroller for an hour or two she usually won't go until we get home, or if I give her a chance she'll go on a tree in the park :-) But if she really has to go, and I haven't offered, she'll just go in her diaper without telling me.

I know I could be having "miss-free" days if I were more vigilant--but frankly I can't, and don't want to be, that vigilant. I feel annoying/annoyed asking her "Potty? Potty? Potty?" every fifteen minutes. I'm wondering, if I "step it up" and practice EC more intensely for a little while, will she start to meet me halfway, or is she just not ready to initiate potty-time consistently? And how confusing is it going to be for her to be in diapers for naps and nighttime?

Yeah...I know...probably the only way to find out is to try! So I'll let you know how it goes.
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Originally Posted by mojobot2000 View Post
We had several hours of naked time this afternoon with no misses--even ate a naked dinner and then immediately peed a ton in the potty! She generally will "hold" it until she gets a chance to use the potty--for a reasonable time, of course. If we're out in the stroller for an hour or two she usually won't go until we get home, or if I give her a chance she'll go on a tree in the park :-) But if she really has to go, and I haven't offered, she'll just go in her diaper without telling me.

I know I could be having "miss-free" days if I were more vigilant--but frankly I can't, and don't want to be, that vigilant. I feel annoying/annoyed asking her "Potty? Potty? Potty?" every fifteen minutes. I'm wondering, if I "step it up" and practice EC more intensely for a little while, will she start to meet me halfway, or is she just not ready to initiate potty-time consistently? And how confusing is it going to be for her to be in diapers for naps and nighttime?

Yeah...I know...probably the only way to find out is to try! So I'll let you know how it goes.
With my son, the best thing for us was either naked time or using chaps style split crotch pants. He calls the pants "pee pants." We had a baby bjorn potty in the kitchen and in the living room AND I would keep the door to the garden open so that he could run outside to pee. By 18 months, he was completely potty trained (with the occasional mommy space out accident when we were in town and I was busy).

I think they can be ready to be potty independent before they are able to take off their own clothes.

Also, when my son would intentionally pee on the floor instead of in the potty or going outside, I would lightheartedly chase him outside saying "outside!!" almost like with a puppy. I had read about this technique in a book and it worked surprisingly well.
post #6 of 9
i personally found that washing wet clothes was not any harder than washing a cloth diaper. I feel making the switch to undies (we did this at 7 months and she was having about 4-6 misses a day) was a huge start in the right direction allowing her (and me) to have more awareness of when she peed. Right after she started walking at 15 months I just left her bum naked when we were home and most of the time she would take herself potty. When we were out I asked about every 30 min to 1hr and found that worked well. In the last week she has started patting her crotch to let me know she needs to go and that I need to take her, help w/ pants etc. I am glad we made the leap bcs this is so much easier than diapering. Right now (at 17 months) she is having a miss every couple of days and is dry at night. She is more likely to pee if she is wearing a pull up so I avoid them except when she is in moms day out (they require it bcs potty training isn't age appropriate)
I think you should do it!!!! Good luck!
post #7 of 9
with my older two, who i part-time EC'd, that's about the age I switched to trainers. my DS still had the rare poo miss at that age, so i got him ones with snaps on the sides. we did those for out and about, it made offering the potty easier and increased our success away from home. but at home we were definitely nakey during the day by that age, and i had several little potties scattered around the house (we called it the potty garden ) so that if they got the urge they wouldn't have to walk more than a few steps to sit down - and if they started peeing, i didn't have more than a few steps to get them to the potty (which meant less clean up, which was nice). with part-time EC'd kids, IME, because they're more used to peeing in a diaper, any cloth that was against their skin reduced their awareness and was more likely to encourage a miss - even undies. nakey was definitely best for increasing their awareness. it also makes clean-up and laundry a lot easier (or, i should say, it did for me). it was totally the opposite for my FT EC'd baby DD2. she hated peeing in a diaper/trainer/panties and it actually encouraged her to signal better when she had them on. So to some extent it could be trial and error, take some time and see if she's more aware when nakey or with something on.

especially since she's really verbal, talk to her about it. tell her that if she feels like she needs to pee, to let you know. if she has a miss say "oops! let's clean this up! next time when you feel like you have to pee, let mommy know so we can get to the potty, OK?" - if she's having a day of a lot of misses, ask her "would you like for mommy to take you to the potty today?" or "would you prefer not to be in charge of getting to the potty today?"

with my older two, there was a slow and natural progression/transition from me offering almost all the time, to them telling me some of the time and if it'd been a while then i'd offer, to eventually they just told me all the time. it wasn't a straight line, it ebbed and flowed, and a lot of consecutive misses were my cue that they needed my help that day/week and i took more control, then slowly backed off again, encouraging them to tell me.

ignore those books, conventional potty learning rules just don't apply in EC, and frankly i don't think they're all that useful for potty learning either. for heaven's sake, my almost 5 year old sometimes needs help getting a pair of pants off if it's got a tricky button, or asks for help wiping if he's had a particularly messy poo! it's certainly not every day, but i certainly wouldn't expect a 2 or even 3 year old to be able to 100% take themselves to the bathroom. IIRC, my older two were at least 3.5 before they could truly take themselves to the bathroom, just physically being tall enough and coordinated enough to get up and down from the big potty, be able to wipe sufficiently, remember to flush, etc. even when they could tell me 100% of the time (around 26 months for DD1 and 2.5 yo for DS), it was a long while before they just took themselves and i stopped being aware of it completely.
post #8 of 9
For us, going naked never really worked except to get my husband and I better at timing ds...ds still peed or pooped! on the floor with occasional communication before the fact.

Around 15 months, I bought 6 pairs of 2T toddler underwear...just the normal kind...no soaking up ability!...and kept him in them whenever we were home. I swear it took 2-3 misses before ds "got it" and began communicating 'pot pot' (for potty) BEFORE he needed to go...or sat himself on the little Ikea potties. After 2 weeks, of only doing this when we were at home, I packed away the diapers, covered the bed with a fleece blanket and began offering potty at night and when we were out and about...along with responding to ds whenever he announced 'pot pot'. We have been completely diaper free with no accidents ever since.

I suggest trying the underwear over nakey...I think in our case, ds just didn't get any discomfort out of peeing on the floor...and was too used to peeing in the cloth diapers to REALLY make the final connection until he was feeling all the yucky sensations of a pee on plain underwear.
post #9 of 9
Um... I haven´t really read the other answers but I can just say that sounds almost like DD a couple of weeks ago. Then all of a sudden it just clicked with her and now she asks *almost* every time to go. We are a little more laid back than you guys in that we just did the first pee after she woke up from naps/in the morning and then also she always told us when she had to poop. Then one day she started removing her diaper on her own and refused to keep it on so I started taking her more often. It was pretty much overnight that she just has a couple misses per day (she´s almost 17 months now).

I guess, the only advice I have is if you notice her showing a larger interest all of a sudden just take advantage of it and start putting her on more, don´t worry it will click eventually!
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